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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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RX 8 vs. S2000 ???

In a straight quarter mile drag race what car would win? Both fully stock.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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S2000
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Even if coming out of the hole at like 5K RPM?

Are you serious would it be close? or not? elaborate
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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hell ya it would be close
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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would it be up to the driver of definately the S2000 is faster?
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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Honda S200
Curb Weight 2835

Performance
Base Number of Cylinders: 4
Base Engine Size: 2.2 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 4
Horsepower: 240 hp
Max Horsepower: 7800 rpm
Torque: 162 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 6500 rpm
Drive Type: RWD


RX8

Base Engine Size: 1.3 liters
Base Engine Type: Rotary
Horsepower: 238 hp
Max Horsepower: 8500 rpm
Torque: 159 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 5500 rpm
Drive Type: RWD


I think it would be very damn Close!!!
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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Weight is critical. Make sure he has a passenger, and you have none. Then, you might have a chance.
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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diff in weight is like 200lbs? roughly?
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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S2000 - High 13s to low 14's
RX8 High 14s to low 15s
RSX-S Low 15s
Old Dec 11, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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As almost any drag racer can attest, with cars that are fairly close the race will absolutely be won or lost at the starting line. In a perfect world with 2 perfect drivers, I'd say the S2000 by a small margin.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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I went on a fall foilage drive in my RX-8 following my father and his friend in S2000s (one had CAI, the other had expensive exhaust). I had my mom in the car (probably 150 lbs, which should not make a big difference). As soon as we hit the road we were looking for, they left me in the dust. Pretty soon I could just hear the exhaust in the distance. I then got stuck behind an old woman in an Oldsmobile and they had to wait for me at the end of the drive. I don't know how much of a difference those mods made, but we cannot hang with the S2000.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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A S2000 pulled me by about a car length from like 10 - 80mph
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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Careful, this sounds like a kill thread.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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Interesting!
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Rev where did you get those numbers?Ive seen tickets over at nopistons with slips showing 14.3ish to 14.5ish times.Is that the slowest mag publication?Ive personally ripped 2 s2000s already one launch to about 130 mph the other from about a 65mph roll.

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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WTF i like what im hearing!!!
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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Stock s2000 also dyno at 206whp and 140trq and are about 2850lbs and they rev to about 8000 (i know you guys rev to 9000) rpms so they have the edge. It still could be a drivers race

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by WTF no turbo
Rev where did you get those numbers?Ive seen tickets over at nopistons with slips showing 14.3ish to 14.5ish times.Is that the slowest mag publication?Ive personally ripped 2 s2000s already one stoplight launch to about 130 mph the other from about a 65mph roll.
WTF,
On this forum, we have only seen high 14s to mid15s. I think you might be referreing to the Mazda-RotaryNews slips that many doubt because of Mazda's impaired credibility.
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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stock to stock, s2000 is DEFINITELY a faster car. i love the rx8 and i own one myself but s2000 is a monster. neither cars are really meant for 1/4 mile though... why not give the evo a look
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 12:38 AM
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hey take off those turbos on the EVO and STi and lets see what happens
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by Rotary Soul
stock to stock, s2000 is DEFINITELY a faster car. i love the rx8 and i own one myself but s2000 is a monster. neither cars are really meant for 1/4 mile though... why not give the evo a look
While it does it extremely well the Evo (and the STI for that matter) are not meant for the 1/4 mile either.
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by Dookie_Rx-8
hey take off those turbos on the EVO and STi and lets see what happens
That's almost like saying dont use the VTEC in the S2000 or let's not use the rotary in the RX-8. It is taking an important part of the cars character away.
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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I disagree.

Comparing the EVO and STi to the RX-8 is like comparing turnips and grapefruit. The RX-8 is stock. The others are highly modified niche creatures from there orginal form.

In fact, the RX-8 should not be compare against the s2000 or the 350z. The better comparison a BMW 325.

..... but just in case, would be interesting the test the about against an 8 with the cz ecu adapter...:D
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by Twin 8s!
I disagree.

Comparing the EVO and STi to the RX-8 is like comparing turnips and grapefruit. The RX-8 is stock. The others are highly modified niche creatures from there orginal form.

In fact, the RX-8 should not be compare against the s2000 or the 350z. The better comparison a BMW 325.

..... but just in case, would be interesting the test the about against an 8 with the cz ecu adapter...:D
While they may not be "naturally aspirated", the stock form of the Evo and STI are with turbos and the tuned suspensions. I will agree that those 2 are niche type of cars but then again the RX-8 also seems to be a niche type of car with the extra doors, great handling, and similar price point. Those 3 things make it easy to start comparing these cars. Don't get me wrong, I know the RX-8 might be in over it's head when compared to a lot of these cars but by no means should it be left out to the conversation. If you pick 10 "bang for the buck" cars the RX-8 falls in that group along with the Evo, STI, 350Z, S2000, etc.....

BTW, can we at least compare the RX-8 to the BMW 330......
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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Ok heres my take.mazda put more money in the car itself then taking a $13000 4 door family sedan droping in a turbo, hood scoop and some suspension and calling it a rally car.While yes ill agree their fast no doubt,i personally couldnt live with a neon interior.Sti is prolly the best as far as entire package goes but its still a turbo'd up family sedan.Want a race car?Buy a fd or mkIV thats a race car.430 rwhp in my supra in my younger days would laugh at these evos and sti's and i only had about 6k in it.When mods start to really sprout up for the 8 i see 230 to 250 na and 300s fi.Compare apples to apples mazda could have made 8's much faster but at what price point?To rev those tickets were ran by judge not mazda.

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