Razz1

The Bull is back!

EdwardsB

i think it looks good, glad to see they are waking up in the design dept.

but no one will agree because its just "cooler" to bash US auto makers no matter what

onyx8

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Better than the previous SHO, nice interior. I can't say the same for the exterior though.

savedsol

Saw one on the road today. It look amazing. Honestly.

dos

355 twin turbo V6 and AWD. sounds more promising than anything Ford has put out the past 10 years.

deadphoenix52

my thoughts exactly

dos

This is just the regular Taurus. Looks better than the outgoing model. The SHO will probably be sporting some larger rims/bodykit that will make it look much better. Not saying I would buy one till I saw it first hand, but its closer to competing with the Camry and Accords.

9krpmrx8

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Buick does it better, this is next years Lacrosse

m477

^ Interior is nice, but the exterior definitely needs work. It looks a shitty 90's Buick LeSabre.

American automakers seem to be improving quality from the crap churned out in the 80s-90s. However, at the same time, they need to make a clean break from with designs as well, to project the idea that their products are actually changing and improving. Why would GM would expect that customers would give them another chance when their new cars look the same as their most awful ones?

Rhawb

I think Buick needs to kill off that corporate grill - IMO, that LaCrosse would pop with a more understated grill. It takes away so much attention from the really nice design cues.

aliveoutofhabit

I would rock the Taurus.

The Buick looks nice... but the Taurus looks way better.

IMHO I think Ford is the only company that deserves to stay around. They have easily the best designs (overall, GM and Chrysler have their stars as well... Corvette and Viper obviously come to mind)

BRGREEN8

you never know, the 355hp twin turbo v6 could be the "next big thing". thats going to be the american version of mitsu evo/subie sti/bmw 335xi.

kersh4w

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fail.

it looks awful. those ugly rims say, "i have no class." just like the rest of the car. i dont understand why american cars look so god awful ugly.

the interior on that buick is niiiiice though. holy crap. those headlights are a joke, can you say bmw?

9krpmrx8

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Yeah, I agree the Buick grill is whack but the new lacrosse in person looks much better than the pictures. It actually is very Infinitish.

REsuperD

so i just went to the detroit auto show yesterday. the taurus looked pretty good in photos and looked pretty good in person as well. it is a big car tho, bigger than the accord, or at least seemed bigger. i would say it's more along the lines/class of toy avalon. they also had the mks sport w/ ecoboost, and it looked curiously like the infiniti m. what's interesting is that in the ford brochure, it already says available ecoboost engine for the taurus (altho no spec was posted). so it's still possible that the sho will have an even higher spec engine...hopefully an ecoboost massaged by yamaha

zoom44

it is avalon sized thats what i said before. it is not a midsize car like camry /accord/ BMW 5 series. it is a full size car like Avalon / BMW7 series / Chrysler 300 etc

dynamho

I think it looks pretty good.
It's better than the Gillette grill series.

dynamho

It's the details. Domestic design seems to have a high level approach - the general form. The Japanese and Germans cars are more detail-oriented - giving them a significant boost in perceived quality.

It is virtually impossible to see intricate tail lamp designs like the ones found in 1st gen RX-8's in a domestic car. It is beyond rationalization to their decision-making. They slap on a red plastic cut out and call it a day.

renesisking

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i sell fords at crestwood ford in watertown ct...the taurus is in competition with the avalon, the fusions competes directly with the camry and accord. the sho will be nice but in all honesty.......having awd doesnt mean the car is going to handle. dont get me wrong, i was a huge chevy guy until i started working here, i'll never buy a GM again (unless its the vette/camaro), but the weight is going to kill it, the car will weigh close to 2 tons, AWD adds 300-500lbs, and with turbos and intercooling that adds weight. and to keep cost down....ford is not going to go crazy on suspension. i love the interiors of the new fords, except the focus, the exterior...well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. but it will sell. i get customers in the dealership who buy japanese and simply say that they dont like american for the the trash they put out but really....read up on the cars, consumer reports reccomends 75%-80% of fords over their import rivals. in all honesty....wait a few more years, the problem that people don't understand is that the issues the US companies are having now stem from years ago. the US companies have been around a lot longer than the JDM companies. give the JDM brands a few years and see how much trouble they'll get into. with all the uaw contracts and unneccesary spending it'll hurt them too, then the people who talk trash about US companies will say the same to JDM. i meet people from all walks of life and they just dont get it. Ford is not going anywhere...GM and Chrysler are in trouble. As much as i dont like both....i would HATE to see them go. Congress is stupid if they dont bail them out. do you understand how many american jobs and more than likely, you're job, you who are reading this is in some way related to the US car companies??? if they go, what do you think is going to happen to you? ever heard fo the snow ball effect???? its bad enough we're outsourcing jobs (im from india and i cant stand it), i dont know why we can just pay more to the good ole american man/woman and make this country prosperous. who cares if you pay more, in then end you make out more profitable.

those are my two cents....

go taurus.

renesisking

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oh and the yamaha motor in the older SHO's was trash....idc what you heard

under hard driving the timeing was aweful on the valves and the cylinder heads so that they'd hit and blow up your motor. ask any ford mechanic, they'll attest to that. i would not like to see another sho motor by yamaha

05rex8

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^yup +1
my buddy had one
very expensive motors to work on

kersh4w

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heavy cars suck. i just dont like them.

why does a sedan need to weigh 4,000 lbs? it doesnt.

and even if ford was far more reliable than any japanese car. i'd still buy an import because american car companies havent designed a good looking car in a looong time. (sans vette)

ugly.

the difference between american and import?




euro/jap design has that element that makes it work. the designers push the design to that final level. many american cars look like they could have been great looking, they just got shortchanged. euro/jap design is sleeker, more modern, more elegant, and a host of other superlatives.

the guigiaro mustang is what ford should have put out in the first place. if it had been, i'd be driving a mustang, not an rx8 right now.

DailyDriver2k5

There are plenty of cars faster than the 8, but I wouldn't want to be caught dead in them. And second, I wouldn't get to excited about that number, remember that 355HP has to move that heft around . I am guessing the new Taurus will weigh in around 3700-3900lbs. Knowing Ford, there not going to put there SHO on a diet.

renesisking

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you can chose to believe me but you wont believe how many people buy US cars for their style. personally and im sure some of you will admit, a lot of the jdm cars are bland ex. camry, accord, corolla, i dont like the civic (si or normal), some mitsu's, suburu's, i got to give a lot of credit to nissan and mazda (they still make cars that are real fun to drive) but american styling has won a lot of hearts. the caddy's are hot, say what you want about the focus, but i cant keep those on my lot, and the fusion(mazda 6) is real fun to drive. the problem that screwed the US companies was that there was no differentiation between their cars. you put them in a lineup and nothing sticks out, thats what made the jap cars "stylish". and any car company such as ford that keeps the same face on their cars ie. Ford's ugly *** three bar grill is killing its style. have you guys seen the three bar grill on the 2008 taurus? edge? expedition? the edge is one hot ride, thats going to be my next suv but the grill is hideous. in the state that the companies are in now....they dont want to take chances, but personally whats life worth without the risks. chevy for example, the cobalt is super bland, the SS looks like a rental on the inside, and they gotta make it have a "family face" with the rest of the chevy's, that car would be hot if it didnt resemble the other cars in its family, we will all know that its a chevy by the logo, just stop making it look like everything else you make.

renesisking

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kersh4w believe it or not, the 2005-2008 mustang was designed by.........a japanese consultant who works for mazda. i forgot his name but it is a japanese design. i should have a resource book at the dealership i'll try to find it but im 90% sure it was a japanese design.