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BlueSky 08-04-2006 02:47 PM

Renesis + Lotus Elise/Exige = HEAVEN?
 
Now how amazing would it be if Lotus stuck a Renesis in the Elise/Exige instead of that Toyota powerplant? The cars would be lighter, faster, smoother, and rev higher. All pluses. The only downsides would be fuel economy and probably a jump in price. But in such a light car as these the renesis will have no trouble turning out respectable MPG numbers, but most of the owners won't care. And I'm sure the pluses will significantly outweigh the price.

ritchjp 08-04-2006 03:04 PM

That would be pretty sweet. I've already decided that eventually I'll own an Elise. Wouldn't it be that much better if it was touting a Renesis as well!

zoom44 08-04-2006 03:29 PM

mazda engineers think its a good idea too

BlueSky 08-04-2006 04:01 PM

Just about 1 mile from me is this place called DC Motors. They've got a blood red Exige with black wheels and a black spoiler sitting out there everyday along with the usual Gallardos and F430s. But that Exige just gets my eye everytime, but then I think of how much better a Honda powerplant or a Renesis would be in that car.

Here she is (grab your drool rags): http://www.dontdrivejunk.com/details...1-2l1151006793

Red Devil 08-04-2006 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44
mazda engineers think its a good idea too

I keep hoping that's what the next RX-7 will be like...except that my 6'2" frame will fit into it...

BlueSky 08-04-2006 04:58 PM

Jeremy Clarkson fit into the Exige. And he's 6' 5'' I think.

Ike 08-04-2006 07:29 PM

This has been discussed quite a bit of the forum... The 2ZZ weighs less than the Renesis, and the elise only dynos about 10whp less than a RX-8, gets better gas mileage, and will probably be more reliable. Seems to me Lotus made the right choice.

chr1s 08-04-2006 07:37 PM

My friend has an exige and it would be better with the renesis.

therm8 08-04-2006 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ike
This has been discussed quite a bit of the forum... The 2ZZ weighs less than the Renesis, and the elise only dynos about 10whp less than a RX-8, gets better gas mileage, and will probably be more reliable. Seems to me Lotus made the right choice.

The rotary could give it a better CoG. And it'd sound cooler :eyetwitch.

r0tor 08-04-2006 07:51 PM

i'd rather see the old 2L S2000 engine in it

Ike 08-04-2006 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by r0tor
i'd rather see the old 2L S2000 engine in it

ditto

playdoh43 08-04-2006 08:01 PM

I wish Toyota would make a new version of the MR2 that matches the Elise' power to weight ratio and performance and sell it at 27k starting price. thatd be pretty hot.

SayNoToPistons 08-04-2006 08:11 PM

the celica motor would make more power...

Clavius 08-04-2006 08:48 PM

Would definatly be a interesting mix and would sounds frigging awsome. Now to find some moron with more money than brains and we could see this happen.. hmm.. Anyone know Jay Leno personaly??

nzarnow 08-04-2006 09:06 PM

i ThINk the ROTAWY woUld Be BETtTER iNN A FERRARIZ.

Actually why don't they just put a rotary in every damn vehicle on the planet. That would be WICKED SIXK!

dillsrotary 08-04-2006 09:17 PM

speed mag (one of the 5 issues that only came out) swapped in a k20, then supercharged it to around 300hp if i remember correctly.

9291150 08-04-2006 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by Ike
This has been discussed quite a bit of the forum... The 2ZZ weighs less than the Renesis, and the elise only dynos about 10whp less than a RX-8, gets better gas mileage, and will probably be more reliable. Seems to me Lotus made the right choice.

Figures you would. I don't give a shite that you don't care for the renesis, but stop speading shit. The 2zz weighs less? Got facts? I suspect you'll be wrong about this like you were on the S2000 engine weight in another post. Without getting in 8 dyno issues, they usually dyno in the 180's vs. 160's for the lotus, but fine, you count 10. And can you back up your statement that the renesis is less reliable?

Other clear renesis advantages; smaller dimensions that would allow it to be placed lower in the car, higher rev capability, more linier powerband, smoother...

But yeah, the 2zz is more fuel efficient, like an elise owner really gives a shit.

Raptor2k 08-04-2006 10:21 PM

Round 1, FIGHT!

therm8 08-04-2006 10:44 PM

The best I can do is 115kg for the 2zz and 120kg for the Renesis (both dry).

BlueSky 08-04-2006 11:36 PM

I thought the Renesis makes at least 20 horses than the stock engine in the Elise or the Exige. But I don't know much about these things. The Manufacturer's hp rating for the Elise/Exige engine is 190hp I believe (maybe 200) and the rating for the Renesis is 232hp. I now that's probably crank hp but still.

Blue87Sport 08-05-2006 12:19 AM

The Lotus needs a proper British Cosworth in it. Not a bloody Japanese engine.

Cheers!

DARKMAZ8 08-05-2006 12:54 AM

Ls1!!!

DOMINION 08-05-2006 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by BlueSky
Now how amazing would it be if Lotus stuck a Renesis in the Elise/Exige instead of that Toyota powerplant? The cars would be lighter, faster, smoother, and rev higher. All pluses. The only downsides would be fuel economy and probably a jump in price. But in such a light car as these the renesis will have no trouble turning out respectable MPG numbers, but most of the owners won't care. And I'm sure the pluses will significantly outweigh the price.


Originally Posted by zoom44
mazda engineers think its a good idea too

Can you say Engine swap? Hell yeah! :yumyum:

Xantium 08-05-2006 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
Ls1!!!



lmao... although $forhp I dont think you can get any better, power REALLY isn't what the elise/exige (or even eight) are about anyways though.

nzarnow 08-05-2006 04:51 AM

Has anyone else noticed that everytime Ike disagrees with someone in a calm and collect manner and backs his statements up with facts, the other person turns into a giant jackass and starts throwing a temper tantrum?

Sorry Ike, they just seem to be attracted to you.


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