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Old 09-05-2006, 10:56 AM
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Look what showed up today - a '73 Mach 1 Mustang. Those are magnesium wheels BTW
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Old 09-05-2006, 11:01 AM
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Very cool. Are you going to purchase it?
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With a "Cleveland" engine as well. I know there is a difference between and the "Windsor", but what makes the "Cleveland" more sought after? I know it's capable of more rpm's, but what else?
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Huge intake valves
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
Very cool. Are you going to purchase it?
LOL - no not me. It's a automatic
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I got hit by one of those while I rode my bike through a local shopping center back in '80.
He ran a stop sign.
The driver took off (leaving a smoky burnout in my face ans I hit the ground in his wake), but I left a pretty recognizable imprint on the fender that later incriminated him.
Lost the proper alignment of my right elbow to that a**hole.

They were ugly cars then and now.
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That sucks about your right elbow, and your right about Ford making this one fugly. The only thing a I like about it, is all that magnesium
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Damn, you're camera phone must be nice.
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13,5000?
didn't you hear, they changed the numbering system!
Old 09-05-2006, 10:59 PM
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i think if my brain is still right back from the day... the clevland is a small big block with 4 bolt mains... the windsor is a big small block...

if that car is a #s match and in decent condition it is a hell of a buy...

but i doubt the mag wheels...

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The only Ford that I am aware of that came with Magnesium wheels (Campagnolo) was the '72 D'Tamaso Pantera
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Are those things really worth $13k?
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yup.

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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
The only Ford that I am aware of that came with Magnesium wheels (Campagnolo) was the '72 D'Tamaso Pantera
Stock, yes, but these are Shelby aftermarket ones. They sold a couple differnt styles of real magnesium wheels.

That being said, I doubt these are real magnesium due to their coloration. And they make for bad street wheels as they don't hold air that well, and are rather delicate. Shelby also made a lot of cast alumionum wheels that looked similar to their magnesium race wheels, and I'd bet that these are aluminum.

As for the 351C vs 351W, the 351W is the largest of the small block family (221/255/260/289/302/351) and differs from the rest of the Windsor small blocks in having an inch taller deck height on the block for the added displacement. So while basically the same design, and able to use the same heads and things like water pumps, etc, it is slightly taller and wider than the rest. The 351C, OTOH, is a completely separate engine family, and patterned after the 429/460, but using a smaller block. the primary differnces are in a cast in timing chain/water pump area and in larger heads with a canted, semi-hemi valve arrangement (vs the inline valves of the Windsor family). This allows for bigger valves and ports for better breathing.

The head design was used to make the BOSS 302, which used a Windsor block with custom Cleveland heads. You can duplicate it by changing the water passages in the heads to match the Windsor setup, and using a custom intake manifold.
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I remember when my Uncle bought a '69 BOSS 429 ,,that car had some *****.
I remember the unusual head design also, as you said almost hemisperical.
He should have keep that car.
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Auto ftl

Otherwise...really cool!
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
I remember when my Uncle bought a '69 BOSS 429 ,,that car had some *****.
I remember the unusual head design also, as you said almost hemisperical.
He should have keep that car.
If we had only known then what we know now - oh so true
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Originally Posted by Transam kid 01
Auto ftl

Otherwise...really cool!
The only thing wrong with it is that it's the FMX automatic, rather than the C6 automatic, as the FMX is weaker and can't really handle much power upgrading. In a musclecar, and autobox is actually a better bet for performance, especially with a $50 shift kit in it.
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