Please provide why you hate Ford
01-29-2006, 12:44 PM
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personally i hate ford due to past experience. not necessarily the product, but the service. i have owned 2 fords, family has owned 5 total. i have found that generally their service dept. sucks. i now work with a former mechanic from the local ford dealer, who states that they were told to "not fix the problem fully". meaning that the customer had to bring their car back several times to "fix" the same thing. i have experienced this first hand.
oh well.... i have my mazda now... so far so good.
oh well.... i have my mazda now... so far so good.
01-29-2006, 12:48 PM
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another lame post about fords ... i'll provide why its lame .. because this is an rx8 forum .. definatelly a driver's car .. and ford doesnt do that type of thing so we dont care much for it
01-29-2006, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dupa12345
another lame post about fords ... i'll provide why its lame .. because this is an rx8 forum .. definatelly a driver's car .. and ford doesnt do that type of thing so we dont care much for it
ohhhhhh Crap This is an RX8 Forum!!!! No Way!!!!
02-10-2006, 08:36 AM
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I dunno if I "hate" them, but I still sort of associate them with sub-par stuff, and glass transmissions in particular. Not to mention fuddy-duddy styling and marketing hot air ("quality is job one!") over actual, you know, quality.
If they made a sufficiently interesting vehicle though, I'd consider it. If the Mustang came out a year earlier and had seats that went back further, I might have bought one.
If they made a sufficiently interesting vehicle though, I'd consider it. If the Mustang came out a year earlier and had seats that went back further, I might have bought one.
02-10-2006, 08:54 AM
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Name one thing innovative and unique that ford has contributed to the automotive market and industry in the past few years. Not concepts, but actual production stuff, that shows factual results - not vapor-crap.
Nuff said
Nuff said
02-10-2006, 09:56 AM
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Why hate? It is just a corporation and automotive manufacturer. You can choose not to buy their products, though driving a Mazda does help Ford.
Perhaps you would not be driving a Mazda today if Ford did not join the fray? Who knows. That is another perspective.
Perhaps you would not be driving a Mazda today if Ford did not join the fray? Who knows. That is another perspective.
02-10-2006, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Imidazole
Name one thing innovative and unique that ford has contributed to the automotive market and industry in the past few years. Not concepts, but actual production stuff, that shows factual results - not vapor-crap.
Nuff said
Nuff said
Presently, Ford produces about 24,000 hybrid vehicles annually. Ford is the only American auto company to produce hybrids and was the first in the world to offer an SUV hybrid. That vehicle was the Ford Escape Hybrid, the cleanest, most fuel-efficient SUV on the road. The critically acclaimed Ford Escape Hybrid added to its growing list of recognitions and accolades the title of North American Truck of the Year at this year's North American International Auto Show.
Taken directly from Fords website
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02-10-2006, 11:03 AM
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I never would buy a Ford, but only because of social and family influence. Ever since I was little, my Dad would pound that into my head. FORD SUCKS! His business used Ford vehicles in their fleet, so I'm sure that has something to do with it. Some could argue that I now own a "Ford" because the corporation owns Mazda. But you know what? My car was made in Japan dammit! It IS Japanese. It is a Mazda.
02-10-2006, 11:13 AM
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Because I have nothing better to do than harbor animosity towards a huge, faceless manufacturer. I also like to know that other people do the same thing because it makes me feel better about myself.
Wow, that came out a little harsher than I intended. Maybe I should lighten this post up a bit...
Hmmm...
OK. Sometimes I poop in other people's oatmeal.
Wow, that came out a little harsher than I intended. Maybe I should lighten this post up a bit...
Hmmm...
OK. Sometimes I poop in other people's oatmeal.
02-10-2006, 11:58 AM
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I think it's becoming more clear that Ford is starting to take the Japanese manufacturers seriously. They are starting to produce good products that are selling well and turning good ratings. My parents are considering purchasing a Fusion soon, and they have always purchased Japanese for years.
The only reason i still won't buy a Ford is because they don't offer a refined sports car, a GT type car.
The only reason i still won't buy a Ford is because they don't offer a refined sports car, a GT type car.
02-10-2006, 12:10 PM
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Nearly all the evidence compiled by 3rd-party research groups shows that Ford's inital quality AND long-term reliability are MUCH better than Mazda's. I really don't know how people get off pulling the "quality" card against Ford. I guess they are still paying for the poor products they made in the 70s and 80s.
Now let's move on to the "fuddy-duddy" styling. Fusion and Edge look great to me. Some of the older product is definitely a bit bland, but look at Toyota's lineup! Vehicles don't get much more uninspired than that, yet nobody seems to talk about them. Toyota can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. It's quite sickening.
Same argument applies to driving dynamics. It surprises me to hear comments like "driver's car .. and ford doesnt do that type of thing so we dont care much for it". Quite the contrary. Ford focuses more on handling/vehicle dynamics than most manufacturers. Even their big utes, including Explorer/Mountaineer/Aviator and Expedition/Navigator handle remarkably well for their size, thanks in part to their first-in-class independent rear suspension. The Five Hundred, based on a Volvo platform, also handles very well for its size. Then there's the Fusion/Milan/Zephyr. It's based on the Mazda6 platform, so handling is excellent, as would be expected. Compare these vehicles with competition in their respective classes and its absurd to say that Ford doesn't make "driver's cars". Especially compared to the likes of Toyota and Hyundai.
Now let's move on to the "fuddy-duddy" styling. Fusion and Edge look great to me. Some of the older product is definitely a bit bland, but look at Toyota's lineup! Vehicles don't get much more uninspired than that, yet nobody seems to talk about them. Toyota can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. It's quite sickening.
Same argument applies to driving dynamics. It surprises me to hear comments like "driver's car .. and ford doesnt do that type of thing so we dont care much for it". Quite the contrary. Ford focuses more on handling/vehicle dynamics than most manufacturers. Even their big utes, including Explorer/Mountaineer/Aviator and Expedition/Navigator handle remarkably well for their size, thanks in part to their first-in-class independent rear suspension. The Five Hundred, based on a Volvo platform, also handles very well for its size. Then there's the Fusion/Milan/Zephyr. It's based on the Mazda6 platform, so handling is excellent, as would be expected. Compare these vehicles with competition in their respective classes and its absurd to say that Ford doesn't make "driver's cars". Especially compared to the likes of Toyota and Hyundai.
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Originally Posted by RX8_Buckeye
Nearly all the evidence compiled by 3rd-party research groups shows that Ford's inital quality AND long-term reliability are MUCH better than Mazda's. I really don't know how people get off pulling the "quality" card against Ford. I guess they are still paying for the poor products they made in the 70s and 80s.
Now let's move on to the "fuddy-duddy" styling. Fusion and Edge look great to me. Some of the older product is definitely a bit bland, but look at Toyota's lineup! Vehicles don't much more uninspired than that, yet nobody seems to talk about them. Toyota can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. It's quite sickening.
Same argument applies to driving dynamics. It surprises me to hear comments like "driver's car .. and ford doesnt do that type of thing so we dont care much for it". Quite the contrary. Ford focuses more on handling/vehicle dynamics than most manufacturers. Even their big utes, including Explorer/Mountaineer/Aviator and Expedition/Navigator handle remarkably well for their size, thanks in part to their first-in-class independent rear suspension. The Five Hundred, based on a Volvo platform, also handles very well for its size. Then there's the Fusion/Milan/Zephyr. It's based on the Mazda6 platform, so handling is excellent, as would be expected. Compare these vehicles with competition in their respective classes and its absurd to say that Ford doesn't make "driver's cars". Especially compared to the likes of Toyota and Hyundai.
Now let's move on to the "fuddy-duddy" styling. Fusion and Edge look great to me. Some of the older product is definitely a bit bland, but look at Toyota's lineup! Vehicles don't much more uninspired than that, yet nobody seems to talk about them. Toyota can do no wrong in the eyes of the media. It's quite sickening.
Same argument applies to driving dynamics. It surprises me to hear comments like "driver's car .. and ford doesnt do that type of thing so we dont care much for it". Quite the contrary. Ford focuses more on handling/vehicle dynamics than most manufacturers. Even their big utes, including Explorer/Mountaineer/Aviator and Expedition/Navigator handle remarkably well for their size, thanks in part to their first-in-class independent rear suspension. The Five Hundred, based on a Volvo platform, also handles very well for its size. Then there's the Fusion/Milan/Zephyr. It's based on the Mazda6 platform, so handling is excellent, as would be expected. Compare these vehicles with competition in their respective classes and its absurd to say that Ford doesn't make "driver's cars". Especially compared to the likes of Toyota and Hyundai.