No Mazda this time.
08-23-2012, 05:38 AM
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No Mazda this time.
We needed a second car, we decided on a sports car / coupe and off we went to the Mazda dealer. We had decided that we would look for a late model car with full warranty and low mileage.
We took a good hard look at the MX5, great little car and after an extensive test drive I decided that 36k ( Can. ) for this 2011 GT model was too much for a small car that in my opinion was badly underpowered.
It would have been great to zip around town in this nice little car but I wouldn't have wanted to take a long road trip in it.
A quick look at a 370Z ( also a 2011 model ) they offered us a ridiculously low price on our trade in and we were faced with a 37k difference ,,, not a chance.
A couple of weeks later we took a ride in a beautiful black Hyundai Genesis Coupe, what a great machine, premium trim which basically was loaded, black leather interior, fantastic sound system all the bells and whistles.
The car had the 2.0 Turbo engine and it sure could move, so this was a 2011 car with 21,000 km. and one of the best warranties in the auto industry.
They had it sale priced at $ 23,900.00 and they gave us a very generous trade in allowance ( $ 3400.00 ) more than Nissan.
I sure love my RX8 but this Coupe from Hyundai is an absolute winner and a great bang for the buck.
We took a good hard look at the MX5, great little car and after an extensive test drive I decided that 36k ( Can. ) for this 2011 GT model was too much for a small car that in my opinion was badly underpowered.
It would have been great to zip around town in this nice little car but I wouldn't have wanted to take a long road trip in it.
A quick look at a 370Z ( also a 2011 model ) they offered us a ridiculously low price on our trade in and we were faced with a 37k difference ,,, not a chance.
A couple of weeks later we took a ride in a beautiful black Hyundai Genesis Coupe, what a great machine, premium trim which basically was loaded, black leather interior, fantastic sound system all the bells and whistles.
The car had the 2.0 Turbo engine and it sure could move, so this was a 2011 car with 21,000 km. and one of the best warranties in the auto industry.
They had it sale priced at $ 23,900.00 and they gave us a very generous trade in allowance ( $ 3400.00 ) more than Nissan.
I sure love my RX8 but this Coupe from Hyundai is an absolute winner and a great bang for the buck.
08-23-2012, 09:07 AM
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Well, if you are happy, that is all that matters. The Genesis does have more power than the 8, not sure about reliability, but it's a step back in refinement, steering, handling, ride, etc...
So if power is what does it for you, gratz.
So if power is what does it for you, gratz.
08-23-2012, 02:03 PM
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In all honesty you would've been better off just getting the 3.8, the rx8 is a much better whip all around in comparison to the 2.0t. Feels slower IS slower, doesn't handle quite as well, smaller etc.
But everyone needs a change, it is comfier and has a softer setup with more torque.
congrats on the buy but not sure it really was a step up
forgot to mention: definitely easier to modify if you ever plan to do that. can gain 50hp by changing the injectors, tune and an exhaust
But everyone needs a change, it is comfier and has a softer setup with more torque.
congrats on the buy but not sure it really was a step up
forgot to mention: definitely easier to modify if you ever plan to do that. can gain 50hp by changing the injectors, tune and an exhaust
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08-23-2012, 03:59 PM
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When it comes to customer satisfaction Hyundai owners are way up there and I'll chuck this in as well, Hyundai are so confident in the automobiles they build nowadays they have one of the very best warranties in the business.
This Genesis I have is absolutely loaded, more bells and whistles than a loaded Mazda 6 at a great deal less money.
I own an awesome RX8, great car, we were shopping for a second car the Genesis Coupe blew the other two cars ( MX5 and the 370 Z ) right out of the water.
Way better bang for the buck by miles.
08-23-2012, 04:10 PM
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In all honesty you would've been better off just getting the 3.8, the rx8 is a much better whip all around in comparison to the 2.0t. Feels slower IS slower, doesn't handle quite as well, smaller etc.
But everyone needs a change, it is comfier and has a softer setup with more torque.
congrats on the buy but not sure it really was a step up
forgot to mention: definitely easier to modify if you ever plan to do that. can gain 50hp by changing the injectors, tune and an exhaust
But everyone needs a change, it is comfier and has a softer setup with more torque.
congrats on the buy but not sure it really was a step up
forgot to mention: definitely easier to modify if you ever plan to do that. can gain 50hp by changing the injectors, tune and an exhaust
I did all the homework and comparisons before we decided on the Genesis, twice the car the MX5 is for a heck of a lot less money.
After careful thought and taking into consideration the type of driving we do the 2.0 Turbo was the better of the two engines for us anyway.
And to be completely fair you would have to drive this Genesis to believe the type of performance it puts out.
I am so impressed with this car, I wouldn't put it up to comparison against my RX8 at all, we are talking apples and oranges.
08-23-2012, 06:48 PM
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hyundai builds very reliable cars.
go have a trip to korea. you'll see tons of 10+ year old elantras (avante) on the road.
and their engines don't blow off.
08-24-2012, 12:51 AM
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I actually just traded in my 01 tiburon (Hyundai) for a 07 rx8 two weeks ago. Couldn't be happier. They are right about the hyundais. Give it time. It looks great now but soon you aren't going to be so happy with it
08-24-2012, 12:51 AM
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I gladly agree because my close friend is on his third Hyundai. Went from a new Elantra Touring, to a fully loaded Hyundai Tucson (navi, sunroof, heated leather seats, etc), and now a loaded Hyundai Sonata. The Elantra was a 2011, Tuscon a 2012, Sonata a 2012. Each had its fair share of frequent miscellaneous problems and most were due to sub-par quality standards. All covered by warranty though
. You may wonder why he keeps driving Hyundai's. It is because the dealership cut his father (his boss) a good deal on them as leased company cars. I swear he is at the dealership every other week.Seems to me that Hyundai DIDN'T miss a lot of details, I did a ton of homework before I bought the Genesis.
When it comes to customer satisfaction Hyundai owners are way up there and I'll chuck this in as well, Hyundai are so confident in the automobiles they build nowadays they have one of the very best warranties in the business.
This Genesis I have is absolutely loaded, more bells and whistles than a loaded Mazda 6 at a great deal less money.
I own an awesome RX8, great car, we were shopping for a second car the Genesis Coupe blew the other two cars ( MX5 and the 370 Z ) right out of the water.
Way better bang for the buck by miles.
When it comes to customer satisfaction Hyundai owners are way up there and I'll chuck this in as well, Hyundai are so confident in the automobiles they build nowadays they have one of the very best warranties in the business.
This Genesis I have is absolutely loaded, more bells and whistles than a loaded Mazda 6 at a great deal less money.
I own an awesome RX8, great car, we were shopping for a second car the Genesis Coupe blew the other two cars ( MX5 and the 370 Z ) right out of the water.
Way better bang for the buck by miles.
So with that said, yes they have attractive cars for the price with attractive bells and whistles. No doubt about that. But unfortunately, there is a catch. They don't have some sort of black magic where they can make attractive cars with more features for the price than every other manufacturer and be just as reliable and on the same standards of overall quality.
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08-24-2012, 03:04 AM
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Again the US get the better warranty...here in OZ it is 5 years for KIA/Hyundai...
My sister has a 2006 Cerato @80,000 KMS (48K miles) and it is using more Oil than any Rotary.
KIA won't look at it at all as she missed one service.
Friend has a Hyundai, 2007, and guess what, same thing burning excessive engine oil.@ 105,000KMS, or 60K miles.
Mechanic here said all their 4 cylinder engine have issues with Oil Rings, which wear excessively if oil is not changed regularly..
My sister has a 2006 Cerato @80,000 KMS (48K miles) and it is using more Oil than any Rotary.
KIA won't look at it at all as she missed one service.
Friend has a Hyundai, 2007, and guess what, same thing burning excessive engine oil.@ 105,000KMS, or 60K miles.
Mechanic here said all their 4 cylinder engine have issues with Oil Rings, which wear excessively if oil is not changed regularly..
08-24-2012, 03:44 AM
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I find it funny how milkis mentions how many 10+ year old Elantra's are on the road in Korea, as if it has any relevant debate for reliability. Do you know that 10 years ago was only 2002? How about all those early and pre 90's Corollas and Civics running around? Right. Not to mention that in Korea, the obvious leading number of cars are Hyundai and Kia brand. Of course you're going to see more 10 year old Elantras running around than here.
How about all those early and pre 90's Corollas and Civics running around? Right. Not to mention that in Korea, the obvious leading number of cars are Hyundai and Kia brand. Of course you're going to see more 10 year old Elantras running around than here.
08-24-2012, 04:33 AM
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Well we have beat this to death ,,, quite obvious that a number of those that replied know little about the Hyundai.
I certainly didn't dive right in and buy a Genesis Coupe simply because " it looked good ", in the past forty odd years I have never bought a car because it looked good.
Car and Driver, a well respected publication rated the 2011 Genesis Coupe " one of the best cars on the road regardless of price ".
Check the latest in automobile customer satisfaction see how high Hyundai rated and I saw more issues with other " top brand " cars when it came to reliability than I did with Hyundai.
When all was said and done and the wheeling and dealing was concluded we ( my wife and I ) came in at $ 6200.00 below what we planned on spending on a second car.
So I purchased Hyundai's extended warranty ( $ 1850.00 ) which gives us new car warranty coverage to May 2019 ,,, on a side note our neighbours spent $ 34950.00 a few months ago on a new Mazda 6.
He describes the car as a " pile of junk " and has had it back at the dealership for warranty work more times than it's been on the road, he's actually in a battle with them to take the car back ,,, there can be reliability issues with any manufacturer.
Anyway everyone has an opinion, I love my RX8 but those that own say the 370Z think the 8 is a awful sports car, expensive to operate and unreliable but I would say to them the same as I would say to some of the members who posted comments about the Hyundai Coupe.
Incredible how you seem to be so well informed about a car you don't own and have never driven !!
I certainly didn't dive right in and buy a Genesis Coupe simply because " it looked good ", in the past forty odd years I have never bought a car because it looked good.
Car and Driver, a well respected publication rated the 2011 Genesis Coupe " one of the best cars on the road regardless of price ".
Check the latest in automobile customer satisfaction see how high Hyundai rated and I saw more issues with other " top brand " cars when it came to reliability than I did with Hyundai.
When all was said and done and the wheeling and dealing was concluded we ( my wife and I ) came in at $ 6200.00 below what we planned on spending on a second car.
So I purchased Hyundai's extended warranty ( $ 1850.00 ) which gives us new car warranty coverage to May 2019 ,,, on a side note our neighbours spent $ 34950.00 a few months ago on a new Mazda 6.
He describes the car as a " pile of junk " and has had it back at the dealership for warranty work more times than it's been on the road, he's actually in a battle with them to take the car back ,,, there can be reliability issues with any manufacturer.
Anyway everyone has an opinion, I love my RX8 but those that own say the 370Z think the 8 is a awful sports car, expensive to operate and unreliable but I would say to them the same as I would say to some of the members who posted comments about the Hyundai Coupe.
Incredible how you seem to be so well informed about a car you don't own and have never driven !!
08-24-2012, 05:22 AM
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My friend has the 2.0t Genesis and he did let me drive it. I absolutely hated driving that car with a passion, and I hope the 3.8 is more enjoyable. I don't even like to ride in that car if he offers to drive.
08-24-2012, 06:36 AM
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buteman, I'd be cautious with making the claim that no on here has driven it...
You aren't the only one that does test drives on stuff after all. Some people find they like it, some people find that it comes up really short. Just because their opinion doesn't match with your own doesn't make their opinion any less valid.
Even if most of us hated it, you got it and you like it. That's all that matters
You aren't the only one that does test drives on stuff after all. Some people find they like it, some people find that it comes up really short. Just because their opinion doesn't match with your own doesn't make their opinion any less valid.
Even if most of us hated it, you got it and you like it. That's all that matters
08-24-2012, 03:23 PM
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I find it funny how milkis mentions how many 10+ year old Elantra's are on the road in Korea, as if it has any relevant debate for reliability. Do you know that 10 years ago was only 2002? How about all those early and pre 90's Corollas and Civics running around? Right. Not to mention that in Korea, the obvious leading number of cars are Hyundai and Kia brand. Of course you're going to see more 10 year old Elantras running around than here.
How about all those early and pre 90's Corollas and Civics running around? Right. Not to mention that in Korea, the obvious leading number of cars are Hyundai and Kia brand. Of course you're going to see more 10 year old Elantras running around than here.
08-24-2012, 07:44 PM
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Well we have beat this to death ,,, quite obvious that a number of those that replied know little about the Hyundai.
I certainly didn't dive right in and buy a Genesis Coupe simply because " it looked good ", in the past forty odd years I have never bought a car because it looked good.
Car and Driver, a well respected publication rated the 2011 Genesis Coupe " one of the best cars on the road regardless of price ".
Check the latest in automobile customer satisfaction see how high Hyundai rated and I saw more issues with other " top brand " cars when it came to reliability than I did with Hyundai.
When all was said and done and the wheeling and dealing was concluded we ( my wife and I ) came in at $ 6200.00 below what we planned on spending on a second car.
So I purchased Hyundai's extended warranty ( $ 1850.00 ) which gives us new car warranty coverage to May 2019 ,,, on a side note our neighbours spent $ 34950.00 a few months ago on a new Mazda 6.
He describes the car as a " pile of junk " and has had it back at the dealership for warranty work more times than it's been on the road, he's actually in a battle with them to take the car back ,,, there can be reliability issues with any manufacturer.
Anyway everyone has an opinion, I love my RX8 but those that own say the 370Z think the 8 is a awful sports car, expensive to operate and unreliable but I would say to them the same as I would say to some of the members who posted comments about the Hyundai Coupe.
Incredible how you seem to be so well informed about a car you don't own and have never driven !!
I certainly didn't dive right in and buy a Genesis Coupe simply because " it looked good ", in the past forty odd years I have never bought a car because it looked good.
Car and Driver, a well respected publication rated the 2011 Genesis Coupe " one of the best cars on the road regardless of price ".
Check the latest in automobile customer satisfaction see how high Hyundai rated and I saw more issues with other " top brand " cars when it came to reliability than I did with Hyundai.
When all was said and done and the wheeling and dealing was concluded we ( my wife and I ) came in at $ 6200.00 below what we planned on spending on a second car.
So I purchased Hyundai's extended warranty ( $ 1850.00 ) which gives us new car warranty coverage to May 2019 ,,, on a side note our neighbours spent $ 34950.00 a few months ago on a new Mazda 6.
He describes the car as a " pile of junk " and has had it back at the dealership for warranty work more times than it's been on the road, he's actually in a battle with them to take the car back ,,, there can be reliability issues with any manufacturer.
Anyway everyone has an opinion, I love my RX8 but those that own say the 370Z think the 8 is a awful sports car, expensive to operate and unreliable but I would say to them the same as I would say to some of the members who posted comments about the Hyundai Coupe.
Incredible how you seem to be so well informed about a car you don't own and have never driven !!
Manufacturer Ratings - Car Reliability Index | Reliability Index | How reliable is your car?
JD Power gives Hyundai on average of 3 out of 5 stars on overall quality.
USAToday ranks Hyundai as #8 on the reliability rankings.
This goes back to what I said before. Hyundai is no miracle company.
With that said. I have driven the V6 Genesis Coupe and the revised 2.0T, and as a true sports car, it drives NO WHERE near as well as an RX-8 or even a 370z. So don't take what RIWWP said for granted.
Also, before you make the claim of me being a "hater". I have considered a Genesis sedan for a daily.
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08-27-2012, 02:45 AM
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I'd be careful about the genesis coupe if you're planning on purchasing a manual transmission. There have been alot of complaints about the manual transmission having issues and up to my knowledge Hyundai hasn't made any official announcements to correct the problem. If you haven't already I would suggest browsing some Hyundai Genesis coupe forums as car magazines often don't cover issues of reliability quite as well. Here are list of links relating to the transmission issue.
OFFICIAL THREAD: Manual Transmission Issues - Genesis Forum: GenCoupe Hyundai Genesis Forums
Hyundai Genesis Coupe manual transmission problems « drivegeek
Anyways I wish you the best of luck on your car purchase and hope you enjoy your car.
OFFICIAL THREAD: Manual Transmission Issues - Genesis Forum: GenCoupe Hyundai Genesis Forums
Hyundai Genesis Coupe manual transmission problems « drivegeek
Anyways I wish you the best of luck on your car purchase and hope you enjoy your car.
08-28-2012, 06:57 PM
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well where do i start.... i seen everything from replacing engines at 1,700 miles and trannys frequently as well as the nav units due to the failure to find locations to as stupid as replacing door handles due to chrome trim peeling off and cutting customers.lets see we experience a high volume of cars that get towed in due to brake switch and inhibitor switch failures.. ect.....i can go on and on lol .......any questions?
08-28-2012, 09:18 PM
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well where do i start.... i seen everything from replacing engines at 1,700 miles and trannys frequently as well as the nav units due to the failure to find locations to as stupid as replacing door handles due to chrome trim peeling off and cutting customers.lets see we experience a high volume of cars that get towed in due to brake switch and inhibitor switch failures.. ect.....i can go on and on lol .......any questions?
. I would like OP and milkis to reply though.