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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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New Skyline coming to america

Due to release in 2008. The proto look nice. Price is rumured to be up there.
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http://www.carlist.com/newcars/2008/ncr1001.html
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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this might be a repost. if so, go easy on me.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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looks like a 350Z
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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I've heard the GT-R is to rival the 997 TT (which is rumored to have 460-480bhp) in performance, while retaining it's aws, awd/rwd hybrid, 6 cyl. TT. Nissan is taking a while with this one, it should be good.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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I think it looks better than the Z. Also read another article that stated the price was going to be around 70k. It will be a hot car, if one could afford it.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Looks like a Scion TC and a 350Z love child.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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it's gonna be a rich man's toy car

hmm, pretend you're filthy rich, ignoring (at least partially) the legacy of the GT-R label, which would you rather buy, a 70k NISSAN, or a 70k Infiniti....

I'd have to say Infiniti to justify the supercar price...
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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I think those pics are ugly....
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Yeah...honestly while some of it looks nice I think the overall look fails to live up to the GT-R legend that I hear so much about. Nissan (and I like Nissan) if you are selling this thing for 70K, make sure it has 70K looks and not just 70K HP (if there is such a thing).
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Look okay to me. Anybody notice the bottom three paragraphs of the article are identical?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Before we judge it maybe we should hold off until the actual production version is released. I dunno.
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Look okay to me. Anybody notice the bottom three paragraphs of the article are identical?
Yeah...did a retard write that article or something?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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They have been showing that same design for 3-4 years now.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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and we'll see what happens and changes with the final production model in 2-3 more years.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
They have been showing that same design for 3-4 years now.
Not really. It just made it's debut a few months ago.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Moostafa29
They have been showing that same design for 3-4 years now.
Yup, here's the older concept GT-R. I like the latest proto the best.

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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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So in a 5 year timespan they can't come up with anything better than another 350z?

Wow....that's some imagination that Nissan has.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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I'd feel funny telling people it was an Infiniti Skyline. That would be weird. And I have a $70K Mazda, so I don't see what the big deal is.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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i think americans are too stuck on different level of brands. I mean in Japan, you have a huge lineup of one brand, not a problem, you have something from a Nissan Cube to a Nissan Skyline, or Honda City to Honda NSX, there wasn't any problem with that.. but then again, they have different dealership networks for various models.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Atually, that car is supposed to be called the"GT-R", not the skyline. The skyline is out in Japan already and, if I haven't got this completely upside down, looks exactly like a g35. I may have to leave soon, so i'll try to verify this today.

EDIT: Sorry, it'll be called the Skyline GT-R. The base model is essentially a G35
http://www.nfscars.net/forum/printthread.php?t=11231

Last edited by Trenta; Dec 28, 2005 at 04:37 PM. Reason: Adding proof
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Trenta
Atually, that car is supposed to be called the"GT-R", not the skyline. The skyline is out in Japan already and, if I haven't got this completely upside down, looks exactly like a g35. I may have to leave soon, so i'll try to verify this today.

EDIT: Sorry, it'll be called the Skyline GT-R. The base model is essentially a G35
http://www.nfscars.net/forum/printthread.php?t=11231
The car we get here in the US and Canada is a rebadged Skyline sedan -- not to be confused with a Skyline GT-R, which is a completely different animal. The coupe is marketed as a Skyline 350GT.

The short version:

G35 = Skyline /= GT-R
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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skyline GT-R is to skyline/G35 what EVO is to the Lancer, or what Z06 is to the corvette, or what cobra is to the Stang. top performance trim of the base model. nissannews.com and autoweek has reported that its pretty much set in stone that it will be an infiniti.

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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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I agree. American's will generally buy crap as long as it has the correct brand name. Look at all those people that pay $500 for a stupid handbag or purse, or $200 for a pair of sunglasses. I guess car's are no different.

Originally Posted by NomisR
i think americans are too stuck on different level of brands. I mean in Japan, you have a huge lineup of one brand, not a problem, you have something from a Nissan Cube to a Nissan Skyline, or Honda City to Honda NSX, there wasn't any problem with that.. but then again, they have different dealership networks for various models.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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It's no different. Americans are all about status and keeping up with the Joneses. That's one reason people get into so much debt. It's so stupid. But however you rationalize your insecurities is your own business, and it sure keeps companies that cater to it in the greenbacks.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NomisR
i think americans are too stuck on different level of brands. I mean in Japan, you have a huge lineup of one brand, not a problem, you have something from a Nissan Cube to a Nissan Skyline, or Honda City to Honda NSX, there wasn't any problem with that.. but then again, they have different dealership networks for various models.
WARNING...

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?

The Japanese are THE MOST brand conscious society. People would buy import BMW's and Benz' so they would be LHD instead of RHD just to look that more pretentious. To make it worse... BMW picked up on it and offers most models in both LHD and RHD versions.

Brands like Coach, Louis Vitton, Tiffany, etc. are like Honda... Honda make something like 90% of their sales in the US. These "premium" brands all make record sales and profits in Japan. Not to mention that their stuff is all maked up much much higher than what you'd pay in the US. Same goes for BMW, Benz and other car brands.

The dealership network in Japan it totally different than the US today. All the dealers in Japan are owned by the respective manufacturers. As you alluded to, they usually divide the models up along certain lines and sell them at different dealers (with slightly different names). The Nissan Skyline is hardly high end... the Fuga, Cima and President would be the high end luxury models.

Why do you think Toyota is starting the Lexus brand in Japan? Maybe people in the 70's and 80's didn't care, but with the advent and succes of Lexus, Acura and Infiniti... you see many people changing the badges on their cars in Japan. You also have seen significant growth in sales of major European luxury brands. People would rather drive a BMW or Benz than a Toyota Crown or Nissan Fuga. Image matters in Japan... probably more than it does in many other societies.

As far as that article goes... the writer is a moron. Plain and simple. Toyota started Lexus in the US because the luxury market was ripe for the picking and no one was going to pay that kind of money for a Toyota (Nissan or Honda). The Japanese brands were seen as reliable and well-built, but still "economy cars". The great success they've had, especially Lexus shows the complete ignorance of the writer. To take it even further... Toyota is making a Lexus high-end sportscar. Honda is planning a next gen NSX. Notice all of them are branded under the luxury nameplate. Nissan already has the Z and will be getting some sort of 240SX replacement. The fact that the Skyline is already being sold as not just an Infiniti instead of a Nissan, but the name was also changed to G35 8and has done well) goes to further show that the writer is just wrong.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by QBallz
I agree. American's will generally buy crap as long as it has the correct brand name. Look at all those people that pay $500 for a stupid handbag or purse, or $200 for a pair of sunglasses. I guess car's are no different.

And Japanese OL's (Office Ladies. aged 20-28 on average) with a monthly income of around $2000 - $2500 spend $800-1000 for that same "stupid handbag or purse" and $300-400 for the same paid of sunglasses.

There are brand conscious/trendy people everywhere. And then there are the Japanese... where just about everyone is brand conscious/trendy.
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