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elysium19 03-03-2009 04:32 PM

New rotary-powered supercar
 
Rotary-powered hybrid-electric supercar, that is.

Frazer-Nash Namir by Giugiaro
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/03/g...r-by-giugiaro/

"If you're at all familiar with the name Frazer-Nash, it probably isn't in the context of modern drivetrain technology like hybrid systems. Nonetheless, the brand that was long ago a famous British car maker is still around, albeit no longer building cars. In fact, hybrid drive systems is exactly what Frazer Nash is developing today and the company has collaborated with Italdesign Giugiaro to create a concept called the Namir.

Frazer Nash has developed a series hybrid drivetrain (like the Voltec drivetrain in the Chevy Volt) that uses an 814cc rotary engine driving a generator. The generator charges a 400V lithium polymer battery pack that feeds electrons to a pair of electric motors at each axle with a cumulative output of 362 hp. The system is claimed to give the Namir a top speed of 187 mph, 0-62 mph acceleration in 3.5 seconds while still managing 91.7 mpg (US)! Not too shabby."

They need to actually produce this $#!t!

JRichter 03-03-2009 04:40 PM

Very interesting. Question is: Does it work?

rotarygod 03-03-2009 04:55 PM

Hmmm..... :D

Jedi54 03-03-2009 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by JRichter (Post 2895374)
Very interesting. Question is: Does it work?

yes, but it'll flood if you turn it off in the cold

CyberPitz 03-03-2009 05:17 PM

Holy...
Shit!

That's really awesome. They need to get the 16x right now so they can fit the car with one and work with it....since they supposedly fixed the flooding issues.

robrecht 03-03-2009 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by CyberPitz (Post 2895429)
Holy...
Shit!

That's really awesome. They need to get the 16x right now so they can fit the car with one and work with it....since they supposedly fixed the flooding issues.

This is a series hybrid so it only needs a rotary half the size of the 16x.

CyberPitz 03-03-2009 05:21 PM

Well yeah,. but I meant a 16x to study to figure out what they have all changed in order to fix the usual rotary issues....flooding mainly. I worded that really funny...Sorry. They REALLY don't need to put the 16x in there to run the generator, that's overkill! :lol:

alienRX8 03-03-2009 05:32 PM

Now this is a hybrid I would buy in a second

ASH8 03-03-2009 07:54 PM

Great 'Lemon" colour

Renesis_8 03-03-2009 08:25 PM

I wonder where they got the rotary engine from. It is a 2-rotor, and it looks turbocharged.
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alnielsen 03-03-2009 08:49 PM

You won't be able to afford it.

SiLVeRE8 03-03-2009 10:00 PM

mazda should have made something like this

blackenedwings 03-03-2009 10:37 PM

Amazing fapping material.

Mikeluvs8 03-03-2009 11:36 PM

that is sick!!!!!! mazda where you at?????

risky business 03-03-2009 11:51 PM

wow. sweet

Catspaw 03-04-2009 04:55 AM

Holy crap.. math class called. They want their geometry back.

rotarygod 03-04-2009 08:33 AM

It really looks like a small, turbocharged peripheral port 2 rotor. If it only runs at a constant rpm, it would be very easy to design it for low BSFC at that point.

Red Devil 03-04-2009 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Renesis_8 (Post 2895775)
I wonder where they got the rotary engine from. It is a 2-rotor, and it looks turbocharged.


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 2895809)
You won't be able to afford it.

I don't know this specific application or details. But I can say a good friend about 6-7 years ago invested millions into a project developing a rotary hybrid just like this...their results are similar and their intended application is very economical. They also developed their own rotary engine and used no Mazda architecture.

The technological principles are similar to diesel locomotives. As RG mentions above, a constant low load operating ICE that powers generators/traction motors.

I know a lot more, but that's as far as I'll go. But the results are great.:)

Bastage 03-04-2009 09:01 AM

I wish Mazda would make something like this, and make it affordable.

alienRX8 03-04-2009 09:03 AM

^^^^^completely agree

Ajax 03-04-2009 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 2896341)
It really looks like a small, turbocharged peripheral port 2 rotor. If it only runs at a constant rpm, it would be very easy to design it for low BSFC at that point.

So here's the real question: do you think they solved the oil consumption issue somehow in this design?

robrecht 03-04-2009 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 2896341)
It really looks like a small, turbocharged peripheral port 2 rotor. If it only runs at a constant rpm, it would be very easy to design it for low BSFC at that point.

Hi, rg. Do you agree with those who say that a rotary ICE (don't want to say RICE) can be more efficient as a generator than a piston ICE when both are running at their sweet spot?

I've also heard both sides about the eventual efficiency of on-board microturbine generators as range extenders. Thanks!

Renesis_8 03-04-2009 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by robrecht (Post 2896699)
Hi, rg. Do you agree with those who say that a rotary ICE (don't want to say RICE) can be more efficient as a generator than a piston ICE when both are running at their sweet spot?

I've also heard both sides about the eventual efficiency of on-board microturbine generators as range extenders. Thanks!

I would say that the piston would still be more efficient. However look at the engine we have there, 800cc and the thing is TINY! The small turbo on it definitely increases the efficiency, plumbing might be easier to work with as well. Also I think the rotary generator would run much smoother, and also weight less. It will also be very reliable if it runs at a constant RPM.
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rev8 03-04-2009 03:17 PM

i like having mazda as the brand for rotory. not to happy about other cars having one too. im just not willing to share.:icon_no2:

Easy_E1 03-04-2009 03:18 PM

My dreams have come true!:fruit:


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