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Tirminyl 11-21-2005 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
Here's a former RX-8 owner's take on the Mazdaspeed 6:



This post came from http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123616428

Here is the same former 8 owner impressions after break-in- http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showp...70&postcount=5

rotary crazy 11-21-2005 10:40 AM

this car is going to be a hit:

http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdr...azdaspeed6.htm

1.3L 11-21-2005 11:12 AM

This issue has been around for decades: sporty cars vs muscle cars. Yes, sports cars have improved in the HP department and sedans have improved in the handling department, but the two still haven't quite met (I'm old enough to remember sports cars that rarely reached 100 HP while muscle car sedans had as much as 425 HP, or more).

1.3L

crossbow 11-21-2005 12:20 PM


wish I could have an '03 body style Mazda 6, with AWD turbo....
If you convert to a front mounted intercooler...there isn't any reason you can't swap to 03/04 sports package body cladding. They are all available online and very cheap. (240ish a bumper unpainted in urethene).

The hood is also incredibly heavy, so going to an FMIC would also let you swap it with a CF one and shave off about 40-50 lbs (according to owners). Just get that painted at the same time.

Then you'd be left with a completely stock looking 03/04, that weighs about 75 less then a standard mps 6 (even more so if you drop the stupid heavy 18's for lightweight 17's), and hauls complete ass.

ucfracerx8 11-21-2005 03:05 PM

While I have not driven a Mazdaspeed 6, I did have a WRX for 3.5 years and it was a great car in the wet, especially in the scenario of big HP RWD cars trying to keep up! However, I feel that I can carry more speed and actually make better time in the 8 than I could in the WRX. The 8 is deceptively fast, in that you don't feel the pull, but when you look at the Speedo you are almost always going faster than you think.

I have had a run in with some Mustang GT's and sure the 8 can not match their accleration, but it can move quick enough to keep them in site and then out brake them and take turns a heck of a lot faster, some of this is based on the driver as was discussed earlier in the thread and some on the car. I have had some experience with racing schools and high performance driving scenarios and I think that this coupled with the abilities of the 8 does translate to certain gains in real world driving. Your results may vary, but I feel that the 8 is a superb sports car and will always put a smile on the face of the owner at the end of every day. Now if my wife wanted a Mazdaspeed 6, I think I would allow that!

BlueEyes 11-21-2005 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by mdaj
Here is the same former 8 owner impressions after break-in- http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showp...70&postcount=5

I have a hard time believing his story. Especially since Mercedes benz, specifically the AMG SL range, probably have the most techno gadgets that can't be turned off, to keep the car from "fish tailing"

Feras 11-21-2005 03:11 PM

but boy did his fanboi friends like the story.

BlueEyes 11-21-2005 03:22 PM

I like this quote in the one guys signature. Smart.

Originally Posted by showtege
I hit 110-130 all the time. Just because your car cant handel going that fast or you as the driver dont have the skillz to go that fast is no reason to be a ass hole. Maby if you wernt smoking weed or have weed in your car like a "idiot" you wouldnt be so perinoid about going fast. And if you think proteges arnt made to go fast than you dont watch GT or SCCA racing very often.

Why dont you by some Enzite to make your penis larger than you might have the ballz to go 130.

And, is the leather on the head rest all loosey goosey here?
http://www.anim8or.net/pics/MSP6_int2.jpg

khtm 11-21-2005 03:22 PM

Haven't read through the whole thread but isn't this Mazda's plan:

2003 - Mazda 6
2004 - RX-8, Mazda 3
2005 - Mazdaspeed Miata
2006 - Mazdaspeed 6
2007 - Mazdaspeed 3
2008 - Mazdaspeed RX-8

ZoomZoomH 11-21-2005 03:34 PM

Mazda6 was actually released in 2002 as a 2003 model....

khtm 11-21-2005 03:38 PM

^ yeah my bad...updated.

Red Devil 11-21-2005 03:43 PM

I like the Mazdaspeed6, but trade in my 8 for one...absolutely not.

Ike 11-21-2005 03:53 PM

Hrm, lets see...


1.) That white interior will look like ass in no time

2.) He's totally full of shit about the Benz

3.) He's a moron for making claims about acceleration before he's even broken the car in and redlined it

4.) I don't think we'll ever see a Mazdaspeed RX-8, at least not one with FI

5.) The stock wheels are awful, then the guy goes out and buys Motegi's, nice choice, when do the neons and chrome gasdoor go in? :tool:

BlueEyes 11-21-2005 03:59 PM

Whoa, I missed a whole bunch of his posts. Apparently he thinks the 8 is almost a full second faster than the MS6 to 60,

f you don't believe me, just check out the factory 0-60 times, the RX-8 is almost a full second faster.
Then he quote the MS6 0-60 as 6.1, which would mean the 8 does it in the low 5's!!! Could this guy be more full of shit?

Ike 11-21-2005 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Whoa, I missed a whole bunch of his posts. Apparently he thinks the 8 is almost a full second faster than the MS6 to 60,

Then he quote the MS6 0-60 as 6.1, which would mean the 8 does it in the low 5's!!! Could this guy be more full of shit?

Dude, it's legit, he tested it with his Gtech!

neit_jnf 11-21-2005 04:54 PM

taken from here: http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdr...azdaspeed6.htm

"Acceleration is awesome. As tested by the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) at the recent Car of the Year "Testfest", the Mazdaspeed6 had a 0 to 100 km/h time of just 5.5 seconds – quicker than an Audi A4 3.2, BMW 330i, and Lexus IS350 - and 0.1 seconds faster than the smaller, lighter Subaru WRX. AJAC didn't test the Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Limited this year, but Subaru's official 0 to 60 mph time is 5.7 seconds.

From 80 to 120 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 took just 4.3 seconds, quicker than all of its rivals."

and

"The brakes are phenomenal. In independent AJAC braking tests from 100 km/h to 0 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 stopped in 35.2 metres, 2 metres shorter than a 2006 Corvette Z06!"

awesome!

globi 11-21-2005 05:08 PM


"The brakes are phenomenal. In independent AJAC braking tests from 100 km/h to 0 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 stopped in 35.2 metres, 2 metres shorter than a 2006 Corvette Z06!"
Are you sure that they didn't use a wall to brake it from 100 to 0?

What does brake testing mean anyway? At least as far as I know there are no new cars that are not capable to block the wheels (no ABS) when braking very hard. So it's really a tire test and not a brake test.
I doubt the 6 has better tires or more rubber per weight than the Corvette.

BlueEyes 11-21-2005 05:13 PM

Who knows, the C6 runs shitty ass runflats.

bmcc49er 11-21-2005 05:32 PM

I own a plain ol Mazda6(well the wife does, while I have the 8) and this Mazdaspeed 6 is going to be a great car if the one I have is any indication imo. I could see myself in it for sure and we shouldn't feel a bit jealous. The same argument everyone uses as to why they like the 8 better then streetlight to streetlight performance applies because handling will not compare. But the Mazda 6 is a headturner also and I cannot wait to get behind the wheel. I am so far under on her 6 I may talk her into trading up. A Mazdaspeed6 and a RX8 in the garage. I ain't hating on anything Mazda puts out.

Ike 11-21-2005 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by globi
Are you sure that they didn't use a wall to brake it from 100 to 0?

It's 100-0 kmph which is 62-0 mph...

Dinhx8 11-21-2005 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by TexasKyle
Is anyone else irritated that the '06 has 274 turbocharged HP while we, the faithful, CRY for some sort of FI for our 8 from Mazda? I love my car, forever and a day. Please...no..."If you want a MazdaSpeed6 then go get one and shut up" crap. Just saying....aren't WE supposed to be Mazda's "Sports" car? Now a "Family" car made by our very own Mazda can even out class us. Just makes me sad....
Oh, and not that I want it on a 8, but it has AWD too.......for about 28K. What are we? Chopped liver?

The Rotary Gods (not to be confused with out very own RotaryGod) are not smiling on us!

would you rather have an Acura RL over the NSX? The RL has more "hp" and its AWD..... ;)

therm8 11-21-2005 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Dinhx8
would you rather have an Acura RL over the NSX? The RL has more "hp" and its AWD..... ;)

excellent post.
http://www.rr-bb.com/images/smilies/clap2.gif

Japan8 11-21-2005 08:47 PM

But the RL can carry 4 people and luggage. ;)

crossbow 11-21-2005 09:29 PM

Ya I kinda of doubt that a MPS 6 could ever outbrake a C6 Z06, especially since the Z06 is both lighter, and has considerably more rubber on the ground.

The MPS 6 is a great car, but its not capable of defeating the laws of physics, no matter how many smilies you use.

JeRKy 8 Owner 11-21-2005 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by neit_jnf
"Acceleration is awesome. As tested by the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) at the recent Car of the Year "Testfest", the Mazdaspeed6 had a 0 to 100 km/h time of just 5.5 seconds – quicker than an Audi A4 3.2, BMW 330i, and Lexus IS350

They've obviously done something wrong up there because the IS350 does 60 in 5.3 seconds.

I still want to see what C&D and Motortrend score the Mazdaspeed 6 before I accept the canucks' ratings. :bootyshak


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