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GotZoom 04-11-2005 08:51 AM

McLaren Mercedes F1 - VS - Street Cars
 
McLaren gives a 70 second headstart at Silverstone (3.2 mile track) to a Mercedes A160 and E-50 Saloon

Guess what happens?

http://www.milkandcookies.com/links/27561/

Small screen - sorry. Starts getting good about a third of the way through.

dmp 04-11-2005 09:21 AM

GREAT vid! Thanks :D

Rupes 04-11-2005 10:01 AM

I think you meant the roadcars get a 70 sec headstart. :p

Cool video though!

Texas 8 04-11-2005 12:09 PM

I could take him:):)

Seriously, good vid. Thanks.

Apophis 04-11-2005 12:31 PM

Yeah, that's nuts... I love how they have the E500 in there to show magnitude... I mean, it takes the whole track for a badass E500 to gain 15 seconds on an average car. You figure maybe with an 8, you could gain 10-20 seconds, maybe a Ferrari could gain like 25-30 seconds, but an F-1 will just destroy 70 seconds. Crazy.

BlueFrenzy 04-11-2005 12:36 PM

OUCH!!! When you watch on TV you say "Those cars aren't going THAT fast". But that really puts it into perspective!

mikeb 04-12-2005 02:54 AM

nice find

fast as hell

TRU681 04-12-2005 05:20 AM

Nice video.Those were stock road cars though.If they were modified even a little bit then the F1 car would not of won.

BlueEyes 04-12-2005 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by TRU681
Nice video.Those were stock road cars though.If they were modified even a little bit then the F1 car would not of won.

Great point :rolleyes:
What does it even mean. That with a 70 second head start a modified car could beat an F1 car around the track? Give me a walking head start and I could beat a F1 car around a track. I think you'r missing the point. There isn't a modified car on the planet that could beat an F1 car around a track.

Thetitanium8 04-12-2005 11:15 AM

That has to be one of the coolest/funniest things I have ever seen. Thanks for the great post :D

PetersonPeleRx8 04-12-2005 07:39 PM

Did you guys notice at the end when he was messing with them... and then in the aerial view you see him take the hell off!!! that was sweet thanks for the link buddy.

himitsu 04-12-2005 11:28 PM

Where do these people get the perception that any road car can remotely get close to an F1 when modified? Horsepower numbers? what? quarter mile stats? or Dyno? heh
Even if you were to put in 8 more turbos inside the Veyron and make it belch fire with 2000HP, it still wouldnt beat the F1.

Theres a reason F1 cars are built millimeters off the ground and has all these weird wings sprouting off the sides.
To put it simply, they can just about do the Silverstone hairpin at 100kmh up.
I wanna see any "modified" car do that.

Ike 04-13-2005 01:03 AM

What would be more fun is to take a 250cc shifter kart and show it destroying Exotics like the Enzo, Carrera GT, and SLR around a road course :) Or even a 125cc Shifter around a tighter road course.

himitsu 04-13-2005 02:26 AM

Did you see the Ariel Atom video from Top Gear? ;)
I think thats as close as most people will get to driving an F1 car. The Enzo lapping the Top Gear track at 1:19, the Atom at 1:19.5.
Not that the Enzo is a bad car, far from it, all the amenities of a luxury GT car, with the performance of a GoKart, nobody except Ferrari can make that kind of magic.

And they did another funny "road test" borrowing Renaults 2004 F1 car.
The video is up in racingflix.com I think.
You know what the F1 car numbers are? 59 seconds around the track! and the track was half wet that morning! imagine if its dry...

Ike 04-13-2005 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by himitsu
Did you see the Ariel Atom video from Top Gear? ;)
I think thats as close as most people will get to driving an F1 car. The Enzo lapping the Top Gear track at 1:19, the Atom at 1:19.5.
Not that the Enzo is a bad car, far from it, all the amenities of a luxury GT car, with the performance of a GoKart, nobody except Ferrari can make that kind of magic.

And they did another funny "road test" borrowing Renaults 2004 F1 car.
The video is up in racingflix.com I think.
You know what the F1 car numbers are? 59 seconds around the track! and the track was half wet that morning! imagine if its dry...

I think a Kart would still make the Atom look silly, but very cool car none the less. I'd take an Ultima GTR over it though :D

DARKMAZ8 04-13-2005 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by himitsu
Not that the Enzo is a bad car, far from it, all the amenities of a luxury GT car, with the performance of a GoKart, nobody except Ferrari can make that kind of magic.

As far as I know the Enzo is an all out racecar for the street. NO luxury amenities.

Ike 04-13-2005 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
As far as I know the Enzo is an all out racecar for the street. NO luxury amenities.

That's not really true, the Supercars today are pretty tame compared to the ones from the 90s. The F50 is more racecar than the Enzo will ever be.

BlueEyes 04-13-2005 12:45 PM

Greatest Supercar ever? Perhaps, but it would probably be a lot slower without it's turbos
http://www.ashframe.com/cars/FERRARIF40front3q.jpg

Feras 04-13-2005 12:45 PM

all out street car i think of the 86 carrera sc. No radio ac power anything and cloth seats. Thats a racing mans porsche.

dmp 04-13-2005 01:10 PM

gixxerkart....yeah...that'd rock

DARKMAZ8 04-13-2005 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Greatest Supercar ever? Perhaps, but it would probably be a lot slower without it's turbos
http://www.ashframe.com/cars/FERRARIF40front3q.jpg

The F40 came turboed but the f50 was a V12....not sure which is faster tho

Ike 04-13-2005 06:10 PM

The F50 has gobs of F1 technology in it, if you ever see one up close they look like hell because it has thin paint and the body is carbon fiber. I'd post a video of an F50 racing some other Ferrari's on the streets but I just got a warning about posting street racing vids :( It's pretty cool though since they go through some tunnels and the sound when they go wot in the tunnels is heavenly.

Ike 04-13-2005 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
The F40 came turboed but the f50 was a V12....not sure which is faster tho

What Blueeyes posted is an F40, it had a better hp/weight ration but I can't remember which is faster either. I do remember the F50 does 0-100 in 4.X seconds. :eek:

PetersonPeleRx8 04-13-2005 10:17 PM

The latest edition of EVO mag has both the F40 and F50 with 0-60mph times of 3.7 seconds. I seriously doubt either of these cars can turn in a 4 second 0-100 time. Especially considering the Enzo has a 0-60 of 3.4 seconds and a 0-100 of 6.7

Hey Ike is there any way you could send me that video of the F50 racing? And what the crap is wrong with posting a video of one of the sweetest cars ever cruising around? that's LAME imo.

himitsu 04-13-2005 11:14 PM

Post your video in www.racingflix.com Ike... they host for you


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