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NotAPreppie 03-14-2016 02:26 PM

That's either a very wide car or a very small radiator.

arakawa 03-14-2016 02:36 PM

It probably has a small engine, so it can get to the show-room on its own. This is likely a very heavy prop :P

neit_jnf 03-14-2016 03:08 PM

plot twist! running electric with RE range extender

fmzambon 03-14-2016 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by NotAPreppie (Post 4750451)
That's either a very wide car or a very small radiator.

I can tell you that in person it looks VERY wide and VERY low :)

I really wish I could have driven that car on the Simplon pass on the way home rather than my 75hp diesel Fiat Grande Punto...

ASH8 03-14-2016 04:21 PM

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Jeez the MME show organizer could have touched up the paintwork with a paint pen, paint marks everywhere.

Goes to confirm Mazda's crap paintwork, my main longstanding gripes about this brand...penny pinching.

If Mazda can save a teaspoon of paint per car they will.

Case in-point all new Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 sedans have rust coming thought at spot welds in-trunk lid gutters....because not enough paint applied.
This really peeves me about Mazda, all paint is applied by robots and computerized, one more ''pass over'' of spray paint would stop this BS...should never happen in the first place.

MAZDA, you don't upscale the BRAND by being tight assed over paint and where it is applied.!!

This has been happening for years!

''Paint thickness has been improved'' Really TSB.

77mjd 03-15-2016 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4750478)
Jeez the MME show organizer could have touched up the paintwork with a paint pen, paint marks everywhere.

Goes to confirm Mazda's crap paintwork, my main longstanding gripes about this brand...penny pinching.

If Mazda can save a teaspoon of paint per car they will.

Case in-point all new Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 sedans have rust coming thought at spot welds in-trunk lid gutters....because not enough paint applied.
This really peeves me about Mazda, all paint is applied by robots and computerized, one more ''pass over'' of spray paint would stop this BS...should never happen in the first place.

MAZDA, you don't upscale the BRAND by being tight assed over paint and where it is applied.!!

This has been happening for years!

''Paint thickness has been improved'' Really TSB.

My biggest problem with Mazda as well. There's just no excuse for this. Their paint quality has been absolute garbage for a long time.

surfnlow 03-17-2016 07:01 AM

I spoke with our local dealership owner here in Pensacola, FL and he is estimating a $70k price tag for it. I might be able to afford it in 10 years if I start saving now, lol

ouimetnick 03-17-2016 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by surfnlow (Post 4750998)
I spoke with our local dealership owner here in Pensacola, FL and he is estimating a $70k price tag for it. I might be able to afford it in 10 years if I start saving now, lol

Thats pure speculation. And I don't think many people would pay $70,000 for any Mazda.

Dealerships don't know anything.. The RX-Vision concept is just that, a concept. Not production.

9krpmrx8 03-17-2016 09:08 AM

:lol: Dealers definitely don't know shit. When the S2's came out, I went to my local dealer to look at an R3 I heard they had and two guys were trying to show me a GT in the lot and were insistent that there was no R3 model even though when we walked inside, they had a Velocity Red one on the show room floor, :doh:.

My Buddy has sold Toyotas for 20 years and I think for the last ten, has told me about the new Supra that was coming out, :lol:

Are-Ex-Eight 03-17-2016 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by ouimetnick (Post 4751020)
Thats pure speculation. And I don't think many people would pay $70,000 for any Mazda.

Dealerships don't know anything.. The RX-Vision concept is just that, a concept. Not production.

I will never forget when my dealer salesman told me how "sweet the turbo was" on the R3 I was buying.

ASH8 03-17-2016 07:54 PM

Like I have said before Car Salespeople are a dim a dozen and Dealership know nothing about any new models as they are told nothing, until they (new car model) are on their door step.
And for very good reason, any car brand (Mazda) wants dealers to sell what they make now, not something which may never happen.
Even Dealer Principals are told sweet FA....might be about a month or two out from release.

slowredrx7 03-26-2016 06:33 PM

NEW MAZDA ROTARY ENGINE PATENT


Rotary piston engine mounted in vehicle
20160084158
Rotary Piston Engine Mounted On Vehicle (Mazda Motor)

the engine is described as being rotated 180degrees so exhaust ports are now above
intake ports This allows a longer intake and more room to mount a exhaust turbo houseings.Also describes four options /direction of the exhaust passages for increase flow

Hope you all find this of interest that RnD continues
Sorry I cant get a link to work

ZoomEricZoom 03-27-2016 12:29 AM

^ I read the entire patent.. Jk. I have no idea how that thing works.

Spin9k 03-27-2016 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by ZoomEricZoom (Post 4752774)
^ I read the entire patent.. Jk. I have no idea how that thing works.

Must be somehow connected to the "Rotary pillow whomper" patent mentioned at the end :lol:

Those diagrams mentioned, but not shown would maybe help (a bit).

Still a heavy read... anywho, look here...

http://images1.freshpatents.com/imag...pp=20160084158

yurcivicsux 03-27-2016 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4751026)
:lol: Dealers definitely don't know shit. When the S2's came out, I went to my local dealer to look at an R3 I heard they had and two guys were trying to show me a GT in the lot and were insistent that there was no R3 model even though when we walked inside, they had a Velocity Red one on the show room floor, :doh:.

My Buddy has sold Toyotas for 20 years and I think for the last ten, has told me about the new Supra that was coming out, :lol:

I avoid my dealer in town at all costs, worst knowledge and service. once needed oem clips for my R3 sides and I had the parts guy flat out argue with me about any existence of an R3.

ASH8 03-27-2016 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by yurcivicsux (Post 4752794)
I avoid my dealer in town at all costs, worst knowledge and service. once needed oem clips for my R3 sides and I had the parts guy flat out argue with me about any existence of an R3.


The parts guys is correct, R3 is only a selling name invented by 'sales', and is not a reference to anything a Dealer uses in Parts or Service, there is no R3 actually listed in form of name, badges or in any Mazda EPC Electronic Parts Catalog identification....it is a 2009 FE (Series 2 RX-8).
And is actually refereed to as one with "Side Spoiler Large" or with "Bilstein Make" in suspension.
Really there is nothing 'special' about an R3, apart from shocks, wheels, seats, spoilers, that is all, nothing in gearing, engine, trans, diff, it is an S2.
Why you always bring your VIN to any parts guy to be certain you are getting what is correct for your car...your VIN tells the guy what is fitted to your car.
There are just too many variations in/of models and trims and everything else to know off the top of ones head (brain) all the details.

Today, I would insist on the same, rather than have some smart arsed owner trying to tell me something I don't care about and don't have the time to discuss. (no offence). :)

Hi Flying 8 03-28-2016 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4752827)
The parts guys is correct, R3 is only a selling name invented by 'sales', and is not a reference to anything a Dealer uses in Parts or Service, there is no R3 actually listed in form of name, badges or in any Mazda EPC Electronic Parts Catalog identification....it is a 2009 FE (Series 2 RX-8).
And is actually refereed to as one with "Side Spoiler Large" or with "Bilstein Make" in suspension.
Really there is nothing 'special' about an R3, apart from shocks, wheels, seats, spoilers, that is all, nothing in gearing, engine, trans, diff, it is an S2.
Why you always bring your VIN to any parts guy to be certain you are getting what is correct for your car...your VIN tells the guy what is fitted to your car.
There are just too many variations in/of models and trims and everything else to know off the top of ones head (brain) all the details.

Today, I would insist on the same, rather than have some smart arsed owner trying to tell me something I don't care about and don't have the time to discuss. (no offence). :)

This may well be the case, but it is no excuse to adamantly state that there was never an R3 model, if that was the way it went down. A good parts salesman would explain that in parts parlance there is no differentiation between the models.

That said, I am quite fortunate to have been working with the same parts manager for over 25 years and his knowledge and customer service is unparalleled. Kudos to Steve at Lakewood Mazda in Colorado.

zoom44 03-28-2016 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by slowredrx7 (Post 4752743)
the engine is described as being rotated 180degrees so exhaust ports are now above
intake ports This allows a longer intake

I brought this idea up on this very forum with Rotarygod like 6 years ago, maybe longer. Nice to see someone over there was listening :) and yes I am taking credit for the idea :D: Consider that a freebie Mazda

wankinit 03-28-2016 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 4753018)
I brought this idea up on this very forum with Rotarygod like 6 years ago, maybe longer. Nice to see someone over there was listening :) and yes I am taking credit for the idea :D: Consider that a freebie Mazda

And I brought up the idea of "water injection" ( which I stole from BMW shhhhh!). It would lower exhaust temps, suppress detonation, increase fuel economy, keep carbon build up at bay, allow for more boostage,
Lower emissions, And remove any doubt that rotarys can have a future. Oh ya
And take that whole " no replacement for displacement"
Saying and leave it in the dust,
Where it belongs! Rotary rules
:ylsuper:

sinkas 03-28-2016 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by Spin9k (Post 4752790)
Must be somehow connected to the "Rotary pillow whomper" patent mentioned at the end :lol:

Those diagrams mentioned, but not shown would maybe help (a bit).

Still a heavy read... anywho, look here...

http://images1.freshpatents.com/imag...pp=20160084158

So i guess thete isnt likely to be any easy bolt in swaps no more

zoom44 03-29-2016 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by wankinit (Post 4753041)
" no replacement for displacement"
Saying and leave it in the dust,
Where it belongs! Rotary rules
:ylsuper:

but that is true tho. thats why we move from 1.3 litre to 1.6 litre :)

wankelbolt 03-29-2016 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 4753018)
I brought this idea up on this very forum with Rotarygod like 6 years ago, maybe longer. Nice to see someone over there was listening :) and yes I am taking credit for the idea :D: Consider that a freebie Mazda

Too bad for you the USA changed its patent system to first-to-file. Otherwise you could make Mazda pay you a licensing fee. :eyetwitch

zoom44 03-29-2016 03:55 PM

went looking for that specific post about flipping the engine over. didnt find (yet) the conversation with RG but did find a mention of it in 2003(!) in a conversation with Wakeech. wasnt a fullly formed idea then and im sure the thread with RG was later

wankinit 03-30-2016 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 4753123)
but that is true tho. thats why we move from 1.3 litre to 1.6 litre :)

I know, maybe in another universe we can do more with less. The saying should be " no replacement for rotary displacement".

1.3 to 1.6? Where did you see this info?

RX8Soldier 03-30-2016 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by wankinit (Post 4753295)
I know, maybe in another universe we can do more with less. The saying should be " no replacement for rotary displacement".

1.3 to 1.6? Where did you see this info?

Look up the 16X, which is the platform that Mazda would likely use in a new RE.


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