ASH8

Smaller CX-7 replacement and diesel CX-9 are on the cards

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257837007EE223

ASH8

Aimed at appealing to Japanese and European consumers rather than the American market-focussed CX-7, the resulting ‘CX-5’ will leverage the upcoming Sky Activ chassis’ greater packaging to help deliver a more compact yet roomier vehicle.

In other words, it will be based on the C-segment Mazda3 chassis rather than the Mazda6, putting the SUV on a much more even keel to the successful Volkswagen Tiguan and Kia Sportage.

ASH8

The CX-7 replacement is expected to be launched before the next-generation Mazda6, which is on track at this stage for a 2013 release.

Meanwhile, the CX-9 – an Australian, North American and Indonesian-market only seven-seater SUV released in 2007 and built in Hiroshima in Japan – is also set for renewal within the next three years.

Also of interest is whether a V6 petrol will continue to be offered, since Mazda’s engineers are concentrating on four-cylinder and next-generation rotary powerplants. Presently the 3.7-litre MZI V6 under the existing full-sized SUV is sourced from Ford, and is believed to be the basis for the next-generation of engines slated for the Falcon.

In its place, a turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine based on the upcoming Sky Activ G is under serious consideration for the next CX-9.

MattMPS

they definetly throw out V6 from their lineup.....

rotary under development...nothing new.....i've never doubt......

StuttgartRX8

I looked at the current CX-7 a few weeks ago It did not appeal to me went with the Audi Q5 instead.

ASH8

This IS the issue for Mazda as I have "been told" that Mazda will not be using anything FORD, like their engines once existing Ford supply contracts expires late next year.

Plus, ALL SkyActiv technology will be exclusive Mazda, Mazda will not allow Ford to use them (they tried), as I was told last year that Ford did not financially participate in anything SKY.

ASH8

“The MPS – like the MX-5 and RX-8 – is the soul of Mazda so it will stay,” Kiyoshi Fujiwara told GoAuto Media this week.

“If we develop a turbo petrol Sky G engine then it might be suitable for an MPS.”

Well IMO a Turbo has to be part of ANY 'MPS' or Mazdaspeed future models, so again a turbo Sky must happen.

MattMPS

Yamanouchi himself haven't ruled out turbo versions of SKY-G, but "not immediately "

they will use still MZR-DISI turbo for some years...

ASH8

Finally, the future of the next-generation Mazda rotary sports car is tied with the development of the upcoming MX-5 due sometime next year; an all-new rotary engine using Sky Activ technology is expected, with yet another round of significant weight reductions affecting both the RX-8 replacement (thought to resurrect the RX-7 name) as well as the classic roadster.

A sub-1000kg kerb weight is the target for the latter, bringing it closer to the 970kg NA original of 1989.

“The new sports cars are not very far away now,” Mr Fujiwara promised.

“But we are very busy right now and there is still plenty to do.”

Yes, Mazda development department IS Very Busy...stretched to the limit..

ASH8

UM, NO ,MZR is finished at the end of 2012 or for 2013 MY, that is next year

You won't be seeing MZR in anything new like New 3 (or MPS), 6 (2013), 2 (2013), CX-7/5 (2012) MX-5 (2012) as they will just not fit under hood.

Mazda new-model timeline:

Mazda3 Series II facelift with Sky Activ Second half 2011

Mazda ND MX-5/ RX-7 2012
CX-7 replacement/ CX-5 2012
Mazda2 2013
Mazda6 2013
CX-9 replacement 2014
Mazda3 2014 (Gen 3)

zoom44

Mazda has been building the 3.7 liter in the CX-9 on their own engine line in Hiroshima for several years. since May of 2007

http://www.atzonline.com/index.php;d...lloc=1/id=6645

zoom44

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com

kvndoom

I'd say there's almost no way in hell the US 2012 Mazda 3 will be next-gen. 2013 US model probably.

zoom44

i think you misread the post

ASH8

It is about 85% Ford Components from Ford, with Mazda tweaking the Heads from memory, so some tooling done in Japan but the majority of parts are from Ford.

Do you want me to list all the Ford Parts (Part Number on CX-9 engine)..

Hence the Diesel talk on next CX-9

Mitsubishi Australia did the same thing here for their V6 engines, as in assembled in OZ from Parts imported from Mits Japan...all Australia made was the Block.

ASH8

http://www.dailytech.com/Mazda+Exec+...ticle20925.htm

It's interesting to note that Ford and Mazda are still partners in development of vehicles and Ford has a 3.5% stake in Mazda. Davis says that at least for now powertrain co-development isn’t in happening.

77mjd

2012 RX-7? Not believing that for one second. We would have seen a concrete concept car by now if that was the case.

ASH8

Remember in Australia we dont use Model Years the way you do..

So 2012 means MY 2013..

Which WOULD mean this years 2011 Tokyo Motor Show.. maybe..

ASH8

Who said a Miata wont slide or drift..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UezrubdKIOY

T-von

No the rx7 is suppose to be based of the next MX5. We won't see any concepts of either till 2012.

zoom44

sneaky sneaky.... i tried to grab that video earlier and the BBC had got it taken down...

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

Turbo is not the answer of course ---- for long term.

but right now it is the answer to most of the lazy companies that were so used to using V6/V8 to push big hp numbers.

Now they know their engine design f-king sucks, they do know what thing tho ---- Horsepower SELLS. so snap a turbo on it, tweak the boost to come up around 3K rpm ---- which most dumbass would barely go above. and tell them that "oh your car has 250 hp" --- when most of the time all they see is around 130 hp.

P.S. : that video is sick. wow.

ASH8

Try again!

ASH8

Your the man J, you ALWAYS say it as it is and always right..

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

This is also why Porsche got really pissed About Nissan's GT-R 2 yrs ago.

They can't believe a Japanese Automaker can build such machine. I guess it has been too long and they forgot that the R-32 did the same thing to them on both street & track performance, but then they got pissed and complain to FIA to ban GT-R R32 from racing. bunch of **** heads.