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zoom44 08-17-2017 11:42 PM

Mazda Patent -Twin Turbos AND Electric Driven Supercharger
 
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Both the schematic (Fig. 1) and drawing (Fig. 4) below show a gas-powered engine with two exhaust-driven turbochargers (11 and 15) operating in parallel with a single supercharger driven by electricity.
Mazda Patent Application Shows Wild Engine With Twin Turbos and Electric Supercharger


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zoom44 08-17-2017 11:45 PM

i really like the idea of driving the supercharger with power from the eloop supercapacitor

MattMPS 08-18-2017 12:08 AM

:rock: that in the patent is an RWD layout...this is what Mazda needs to go upmarket DEFINITELY

TeamRX8 08-18-2017 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 4832231)
i really like the idea of driving the supercharger with power from the eloop supercapacitor

until you have to cough up serious $$$ for a replacement ... :kiss:

slowredrx7 08-18-2017 03:51 AM

The article only shows part of the patent.
Mazda says its a 4 cyl diesel
Supercharging Device For Engine (Mazda Motor)
There was another patent a few weeks ago for a controller that predicts pre ign in the upcomeing skyactiv x explains how they prevent pre ign when in spark mode without lowering the effective compression ratio.http://www.freshpatents.com/-dt20170...0170226953.php

zoom44 08-18-2017 02:24 PM

yeah the first link in my post is to the complete patent

Brettus 08-18-2017 06:01 PM

I was like:jump:then I saw it was for a piston engine and was :sad:

gwilliams6 08-20-2017 03:54 PM

Yes saw this patent leaked several days ago. Well maybe all their new piston engine tech will produce cars that catch on and sell well, allowing them to bring us the new rotary.

UnknownJinX 08-20-2017 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by gwilliams6 (Post 4832500)
Yes saw this patent leaked several days ago. Well maybe all their new piston engine tech will produce cars that catch on and sell well, allowing them to bring us the new rotary.

I think it makes sense for Mazda to try them out on piston engines first, as piston engines are, admittedly, a more tried design.

Just like their new HCCI engines, if things go well, these technologies will find their way to improve the next rotary engine.

MattMPS 08-20-2017 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 4832512)
I think it makes sense for Mazda to try them out on piston engines first, as piston engines are, admittedly, a more tried design.

Just like their new HCCI engines, if things go well, these technologies will find their way to improve the next rotary engine.

After a deep view of patent, my opinion is that this one was a possible solution of development discarded in favor of Skyactiv-X layout showed few days before the publication of this patent .

Some tech of this patent can be used in diesel engines, high performance versions of gas piston engines and eventually rotary (e.g. supercharging system)


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