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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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all the reviews I have read said that the miata felt nimbler but the pontaic was faster around what ever corse they set up. so I dont think its that the other magz had differnt results just that the enjoy the miata becsue it feels so good.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hutchroro
all the reviews I have read said that the miata felt nimbler but the pontaic was faster around what ever corse they set up. so I dont think its that the other magz had differnt results just that the enjoy the miata becsue it feels so good.
I've read the Miata is faster, but that makes sense because the Solstice weighs 400 lbs more and even the greater hp does not make up for it.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
Unfortunately NOT less nimble (see GRM test).

Truth be told, I went & did a test drive (alone) with a MX5 top of the line version about a month ago. To boot, I even got paid some money by Mazda to do that. And although at the time I didn't say much about it, ("Nice car, fancy key, thanks!) ) I had the feeling of experiencing the "Emporer's new clothes".

IOW "where's the meat"? or "is that all there is?" was what I came away with. Yea it had nice turn in, but the shifter was rubbery & vague (compared to my RP short shifter), the view from the seat bas bathtub-like (compared to my stock 8 seat), the suspension/tire feel was bouncy rubber band soft and floaty, "Yes bouncy-floaty" and not just a little (compared to my 8 with WL Sways and RT-615s).

I got back in my 8 and left the dealership feeling like I truly had the 'real sports car from Mazda'. My slightly modded 8 may not be perfect, but compared to the stock MX5 - give me a break - not in 1,000,000 years would I swap.

The GRMS said that aftermarket suspension guys would be making a killing on the 'new Miata' and they are spot on.
That's ONE review that doesn't say the new MX-5 is more nimble than the Solstice.

I've read at least 3 others that say otherwise, and give the MX-5 faster times in pretty much everything.

I guess only time will tell once people start racing their Solstices.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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wow that is awesome!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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i drove one of the new mx5s at the zoom-zoom live event here a few months back and incredibly underwhelmed by it, especially when compared to the rx8. the mx5 had considerably less "get-up and go" and i was surprised by the amount of body roll that it had.

from talking to other people at the event, the reviews were mixed. some greatly enjoyed the rx8 more and others enjoyed the mx5 more...and most of those were simply because the mx5 was a vert.

i'd still like to drive a solstice/sky. it'd be interesting to see how they compare. and on a side note, i like the styling of the sky much more than the solstice.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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i thought i started a thread about marketing tactics- cant seem to find it. anyone seen it around here?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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i just googled pontiac and nothing mazda comes up, has pontiac done something?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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BRILLIANT marketing by Mazda!

GM Marketing has got to be so pissed.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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google pontiac solstice, not just pontiac
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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When I drove the Mx5 at the zoomzoomlive thing, the car felt really fun and tossable. It was very enjoyable car to play around with compared to the Solstice. Solstice wasn't a bad car for terrible handler, it just didn't feel as fun though. Didn't get a chance to play with the Solstice on a closed track but street driving, it wasn't really as lively.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cleoent
i just googled pontiac and nothing mazda comes up, has pontiac done something?
when i first read the thread, just googling "pontiac" would bring up a premium/sponsored ad at the top for a mx5/solstice comparison. that doesn't work any more. but like was mentioned, searching "pontiac solstice" still works (for the time being).
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
i thought i started a thread about marketing tactics- cant seem to find it. anyone seen it around here?

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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i googled jjust "pontiac" just now and got this

http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search

2nd premium ad in the blue top section is the mazda ad
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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weird- when i clicked the link in my post- one out of about 5 times it didnt bring the mazda ad up....
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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hmm...i was just refreshing the page, and when the mazda ad wasn't present on the top sponsored ad area, but was in the side bar sponsored area. and when it was present in the top, it wasn't in the side...but it was there everytime, in one of the two locations.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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well there ya go
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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well to take my thread furthur askew i offer this MX-5 vs Solstice comparo

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/f...02/01/8368211/



But the Solstice was hurried to market after its debut at the 2003 Detroit auto show, and that shows in the execution: The cloth top is a bit more cumbersome, and there is practically no trunk space. Though the formula for the MX-5 hasn't changed much over the years, it has been subtly, flawlessly refined.

Americans are fortunate to have two such appealing sports cars arrive on the market at the same time, but only the MX-5 is seductive enough that I would consider moving to the suburbs merely to have the pleasure of driving one to work every day.
i think its quite clear that the 2 cars are close enough objectively that it comes down to the subjective preferences of the reviewers which they pick.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Anyone do this with a MX5?

www.mallettcars.com/solstice-conversion.htm
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bascho
Yes, similiar conversions have been done with the GM V8 and the Miata.



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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bascho
Is anyone mass producing them? Has anyone ever seen a V8 MX-5 in action? I bet that thing is fast as ****
Oh mass production.... hmm, that I don't know.

I've seen some custom conversions.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
Yes, similiar conversions have been done with the GM V8 and the Miata.

Is anyone mass producing them? Has anyone ever seen a V8 MX-5 in action? I bet that thing is fast as ****
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44

i think its quite clear that the 2 cars are close enough objectively that it comes down to the subjective preferences of the reviewers which they pick.
You're absolutely right. I've driven both briefly and they're pretty close; one mod to one or the other could open up a gap, but that's the mod game for ya.
in terms of subjective styling, both inside and out, I prefer the Miata though. the front of the Solstice looks like it's going to shave me (!).
I'll reserve judgement for the Sky until I can experience it first-hand.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Both cars are evenly matched but too small for me. Why can't they bump them up to the size fo the 8? Reviews I've read say the Miata is more fun to drive. The Soltice has lunch box trunk space when top is down. I"ve boycotted GM since the 80's and will never buy one as long as there is a comparable import. I'd take the Miata first anyday. You know it's a great car with a history.

Hats off to Mazda's marketing savy. That is a cool trick they did.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Roaddemon
Both cars are evenly matched but too small for me. Why can't they bump them up to the size fo the 8?
you want a Kabura! see berns comments here https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...24#post1225824
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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you want a Kabura! see berns comments here https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...24#post1225824
Doesn't look like it comes in a ragtop. I want an affordable rwd roadster larger than the Miata.
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