the1jesster: Duh... A nice Camaro or American Car V6 can rape an 8. Part of the history behind that is the rotary engine. Many have failed trying to get it right and is part of the reason why Mazda is the only company to keep producing it. about 200Hp N/A with no turbo off a 1.3L Renesis Engine speaks for itself. You my friend, are strongly suggessted to trade in your RX8 and buy yourself a POS Muscle Car that is plain and has no WOW effect, with such poorly designed interiors. You must have bought the wrong car. If Mazda was to have dropped the 20b's into the RX8... Im sure you wouldnt be commenting the way you are, and thats probably what you would like to see according to your comment, however there is not a big enough Market for Mazda to Invest into doing so.

All this talk about gun metal wheels reminds me I need to wash my car which has gun metal wheels :lol: Maybe this thread will be dead by the time I get back?

Mike--- STFU. You have the same POS 4 port as I do. You have not seen me drive. Ask Izzy when we run Boquet CYN. You know nothing. Of course IZZY will now Pawn my ass because he got a lot lot better at driving. Im 100% Izzy or myself will leave you in the dust on a Canyon run. :yesnod; Im willing to put money on that. :smoker: You got to "Drift Night".. which is FAIL. Especially in an AT 4 port. Cmon Mike you know better than that. You can't drift a 4 speed AT. <---Period

You must be a little slow I wasnt like O man we need V8's. I love my car and make it fast my self that is half the fun and yes I would love 20b's to come stock the point I am trying to pass is in todays market we are very under power even Hyundai gives you a 300hp option just give us a roto close to that even Koni challenge has to make special execptions for the rx8 to hang with the power of the 4bangers and stangs that run in it:cool:

fail dude drift night is to wach i run time attack i doubt youll beat me im fearless imy friend almost flew off the mountain this week trying to keep up with me, i sed to hit gmr daily, it is one of the deadliest canyons in so cal challenge

^Its pretty hard when you cant "Bore, Stroke, Better Sleeves, JE Pistons, Upgrade Camshaft, Titanium Valve Springs, Stainless Steel Valves" a Rotary. Remember.. there is only 3 moving parts. Its pretty hard to work with that. If you have a solution to do so, along with being SMOG approved. Please post it here and foward a copy to Mazda.

Jesus save you my child see we have these things called TURBOS and SUPERCHARGERS and many car companys use these to force air into your ENGINE as a matter of fact Mazda its self use's TURBOS currently and hold on now this might blow your mind but on some RX7s they used these handy little buggers to get 300hp stock :SHOCKED::SHOCKED:

(some of God's children are very special :kiss:)

^ how i said before... there is not a big enough market for Mazda to make such an engine for Reliability and SMOG problems.. at least they are/were working on the 16x.. but even that seems to be failing :yesnod:.

i actually agree with zumn, after the nightmares mazda went through with careless fd owners they wanted something the average joe non enthusiast would not have trouble maintianing

Thank You Mike, at least someone understands me. :uhh:...:sad:. Mazda is just going to have to stick to their MS3's and MS6's for quite a bit longer, while us Rotary Owners keep hoping for a More Powerful Rotary Engine :tear:

Now we have come full circle this is what I have been saying for the past two pages yes they are working on the 16x and this because of the current Hp wars they need to gives us a little more and they will get everything worked out just in time now we can stop fight and enjoy our RX8 bound. I would never get ride of my 8 I love being unique just not beat because of hp If u lose on the track it should be on you as a driver:Peace:

im just saying, dont compare it to Piston Engines. Its not as easy as many would think, everything is always easier said than done. "oh just supercharge it or turbocharge it'... when Mazda cant even get it right when they did Turbo'd the RX7 im pretty sure they are not going to turbo the next RX. 16x PLEASE COME SOON. Do we have to get the Aliens down here to work some real science or what? :suspect:

While I would never compare the two as the same I do agree please give us a little more reliable power thats it end of story :smoker: and its not Mazda its the crazy asses at the EPA that are killing the RX8

^ Not to mention the Racing/Competitive sports that have Banned the Rotary Engine.

indeed:yesnod:

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Sad, but true. Mazda has work to do. In '04 when the 8 first arrived, it was very competitive, but sadly, today it is woefully behind the competition in the power department.



Side note...I do think that sedan looks really good with those wheels but it might look better with the smaller '18s from the MS3. Those look like they have to be the '19s.

I test drove a MS3 before I came across the R3. RX-8 R3 that is... The MS3 was honestly the most POS car I have driven in a while but it was fast. Torque steer like a mofo, it actually pulled me into the next lane the first time I popped the clutch out of 2nd. By the near end of the test abuse drive, the clutch was smoking out of the hood. Before anyone says anything, YES I know how to drive a stick. The whole thing just felt like it was going to fall apart around me. It was fast though...

FYI, its impossible to torque steer on a RWD car.

and while he said how much he hated the r3, look at his sig... this must be a joke

I believe he is talking about a MS3. Very confusing post, but nothing he mentioned about the test drive relates to a 8.

Torque steer? Very fast in 1st gear?..

This whole thread..

Welcome back lost thread:cuddle:

*reports for duty when called*

;)

i like it looks good.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaa, my bad...

I test drove a SPEED3 and hated it.

I wonder if this Speed3 with the R3 wheels will increase demand for graymarket R3 wheels. Maybe I can dump mine and get something else...

Sorry for the confusion/derailing of thread guys...

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