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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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M coupe is BEAUTIFUL. Love that car, never driven one though. But i'm one of those who loves the styling, odd as it is.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
sweet well go for the M3 then and since you're in philadelphia let me get a gander at that car .
Hopefully come December or January. I'm thinking Estoril Blue or Silver. But only as long as we can swap for a little while .

The 315 hp version of the coupe is NICE...the S52 is a hell of a motor.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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The BMW maintenance program is 50,000 miles. Everything is bascially covered, unless you do damage to the car and are proven responsible. Oil changes are free and are only required every 15,000 miles or sooner depending on your driving. I have the extended program on my '04 M3, and the only thing that sucks is that after the 50,000 warranty is up. You have to pay $500 for an inspection every year regardless of any problems or not - just to keep the warranty. This is why people tend to stray from buying used BMW's is because their service bills are rediculous. Every BMW we have ever bought has had the 100,000 mile warranty and we haven't had to pay for an oil change yet. And that is 3 X5's 2 new 7's, 2 M3's, 1 3 sedan, 1 M5, etc. That $700 for an oil change might be referring to Mercedes SLK55? That is around there for the oil change because the quarts of oil are roughly $9 a quart and labor is a joke; my dad's Vice President has this car... IT is damn fast thought, BUT an automatic.
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Be VERY careful buying any M Roadster or M Coupe. Hell, be careful buying any Z3 or Z3 Coupe - BMW took a bad engineering shortcut with the rear differential and the rear chassis, and as a result is having serious problems with them now. The chassis rear section is based on the old E30 3-series chassis, and the differential mounts with a single 'ear'. Unfortunately, the rear chassis can't handle the power of the 6 cylinder or M engines, and has a tendency to rip the rear floorpan, popping the spot welds and tearing the metal. BMW is having to replace and re-weld floor sections under extended warranty coverage.

If you are considering a Z3 or Coupe variant, have the rear floor section inspected extremely carefully.

Here's a thread with pictures of typical damage and multiple posts from owners who have experienced this failure: Z3 and MZ3 Diff Mount and Subframe Tears

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PS - no loss, the Coupes look like giant clown shoes anyway! :p
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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i drove one tonight, it was orgasmic. i will be purchasing an 00 240 hp version shortly. ill still hang out here tho, cause i havent found a z3 forum i like yet. they all seem to be in the UK, and without the local meets i dont know what i'd do
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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good z3 forum
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nosubstitutec4s
i will be purchasing an 00 240 hp version shortly.
You read my post right before yours, right? Do NOT buy it blind - make damn sure to have the rear chassis inspected for the typical failures in that link I posted!!!

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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You guys over in the US obviously have different taste to us here in Oz.
The general consensus when the M coupe was released (and even today) is that it is a "butt ugly" car.

Then again, we like the taste of Vegemite whereas the rest of the world can't get their taste buds around it.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:50 AM
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Can't you get the 315 hp version? The 240 hp version? I don't know. I'd rather get the RX-8.
Originally Posted by nosubstitutec4s
i drove one tonight, it was orgasmic. i will be purchasing an 00 240 hp version shortly...
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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i kinda like the M Coupe...
i thot it was ugly in pictures but in the metal... it looks squat and not too bad. Has a kinda macho stance. if i had the $$$, i wld get one
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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I still think the M3 is the best looking out of the BMW's. The M Coupe is interesting and I can see where the clown shoe description might come from but it isn't as bad as the 3rd gen Toyota Celica's were. They looked like an old pair of Converse Hi-tops to me.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nosubstitutec4s
i drove one tonight, it was orgasmic. i will be purchasing an 00 240 hp version shortly. ill still hang out here tho, cause i havent found a z3 forum i like yet. they all seem to be in the UK, and without the local meets i dont know what i'd do

if you think ur young at the rx8 meets wait til u hit a M/Z Coupe Meet
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Hey nosub, $1400 for an oil change? And you paid it? Now how many qts. in the water pumper 911? My air/oil cooled 911 takes about 12 qts. I never paid $140 leave alone 10x that. It does not sound right. If it takes them 3 hours at $100/hr. and they charge you $100/qt. It's still nowhere near $1400. I just can't figure out how they came up with that much. Do you have an itemized bill?
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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shocka, i dont know of any US z3, z3 coupe or mz3 coupe/convertable clubs. reguardless of which car i end up with, i will still stay here because i like the community. plus, if i get the mzc, next time that guy with the camaro comes by i can smoke him, or at least come closer than any of the local 8's could
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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911sc, based on your s/n, im assuming that you have an older 911 (didnt they stop making the SC sometime in the 70's/80's? nowadays, they do all this other crap that wasnt necessairy on the older 911's. maybe its cause im on longisland and they try to rip you off for every penny they can get outa you. thats why im not taking my m coupe to the dealer for service, but rather i know this guy who specialises in bmw's.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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It looks like a mini station wagon. That's what comes to mind every time I see one. I don't care for it, but it's styling isn't as bad as say, the aztek.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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did you not see the link I posted, did you not notice the US Z3 club references at that link?
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Gotta stay away from the dealers. Yeah, the SC's ended in 1982 or 1983 I believe. Anyway, I vote for the 3 coupe, strange but wild car. You don't see them every day.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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the 3 coupe? like a 3 series? well heres an update. i found one at a local dealership. i took my mom to see it and she said that as soon as they give us the price we want, we can get it. she also thinks its the ugliest car ever made. she calls it the abortion that got away, cause it never should have happened. she said that she will eat the cost between the used m coupe and a less used m3. im still leaning towards the m coupe cause ive never had a driving experience like that before. its so connected to the road. whats everyones opinions (please leave the ugliness out of it)
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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flatso, i saw that forum, but i hate that format. its so much easier to use this type of forum than the z3 one you sent me. whenever i see that other kind of forum, i always leave quickly.
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Looks like a Pinto to me. :D
GOD! Who would seriously waste their time like that photographing a Pinto in a studio! Weird.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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I meant m coupe. Ugly? Maybe, but most people will only be able to see your tail lights.
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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nosubstitutec4s
whats everyones opinions (please leave the ugliness out of it)
Did you READ the link I posted about the chronic failures of the rear chassis????? (for the 3rd time?) You seem determined to completely ignore that major issue - so what's your plan for dealing with the spot welds and suspension/differential mounts breaking and tearing the chassis sheet metal WHEN it happens? Did you have the car inspected specifically for that problem?????

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