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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Check out the new Zytek, it looks like a Formula car!

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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From planetlemans:

Portuguese website Sportmotores reports that Quifel ASM has not reached an agreement with Mazda and will therefore stay with AER for the 2008 season.

The Portuguese team felt the support offered was not enough for an engine ?in development? and will bet on their well known power plant again this year. The team will be testing in Estoril on February 10th and 11th with Miguel Amaral and Olivier Pla.

Thanks to Hugo Ribeiro for the information.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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did they rent the renault wind tunnel for testing?
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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Check out Mazda's new Lola-Courage B65!
They integrated the front and crash structure/intake of the C65 onto the Lola B07

Man, I am not sure this is the way to do things. To an untrained eye this might look like an improvement. Are they not getting enough front downforce with the Lola front end? Can't they do some R&D of their own? This "transformation" costs them nothing. I hope the improvement won't be nothing, or negative.

Haha, Lola might never do business with them again! Courage is not known for their aero development anyways. Its a piece of bodywork from 2003 they're using.


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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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There is more, the rear brake duct/rear wheel fender? (Is that how you call it?) is from C65 as well!


C65 Front end:


C65 Intake:


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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 01:23 AM
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Actually, all of the bodywork is from Courage, the distinctive Lola pontoon fender is gone.

This is a C65 bodywork on a Lola chassis. Wow this car is gonna stir some discussions.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 02:07 AM
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That is really interesting. I take it this is the leftovers from the furai, but at the sebring winter test BK was running the Lola bodywork. Good catch Renesis. Did you here the other big news?

Originally Posted by mazda1 @ 10/10ths
News from Mazda just in! About two hours ago, at a dealer in Orlando Florida (Classic Mazda) Bk Motorsports and Mazda announce their new driver for next weekend 12 hours of Sebring during a pre-race event. They announce that Jaime Bach is out and the 2007 IMSA lite champion Gerardo Bonilla is replacing him! Gerardo will join Ben Devlin and Rafa Matos (allowed to race with BK by AGR) at the endurance race next week. During the winter test at Sebring, Gerardo, on only his second run with the P2 car, was several seconds faster than Jaime. He also dominated the IMSA lite series last year. I think Mazda is feeling the pressure of having a big sponsor and this move is a big step forward!!!! GO MAZDA !!!!! ZOOM ZOOM!!!!

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I was there, I talked to Ben Devlin, Gerardo Bonilla, and John doonan. They said that jaime wanted to do other things. Him and his dad have a construction company back in wisconsin and he wanted to concentrate on not only that, but also other things he is working on, so HE IS OUT!!
I am excited at the driver change and do wish Bach the best of luck also.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis_8
Check out Mazda's new Lola-Courage B65!
They integrated the front and crash structure/intake of the C65 onto the Lola B07

Man, I am not sure this is the way to do things. To an untrained eye this might look like an improvement. Are they not getting enough front downforce with the Lola front end? Can't they do some R&D of their own? This "transformation" costs them nothing. I hope the improvement won't be nothing, or negative.

Haha, Lola might never do business with them again! Courage is not known for their aero development anyways. Its a piece of bodywork from 2003 they're using.

2 things:

1-I really doubt that the courage is more aerodynamic than the lola

2- this prove that the "theory" that the courage was not getting sufficient air was hot air indeed
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 07:03 AM
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It looks like they have 2 cars, this picture was taken on monday's test day
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Guys, Mazda (BK) is racing the full Lola, they simply repainted their old Courage to match the new sponsorship to use as a show car.

Incidentally, Acura did the same thing when they first announced their program. They took a very old Lola (B01/60) from one of their new teams (Highcroft) and repainted it like their future Acuras would look. Then they took that car on the show circuit.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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The "old Courage" is now the Furai concept car. It is the old Courage chassis. They only have one. The body work from the Courage was still lying around though as that's what they removed to make the Furai.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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2- this prove that the "theory" that the courage was not getting sufficient air was hot air indeed
I disagree. Rotaries need way more cooling than piston engines do. It's obvious the chassis had decent cooling for piston engines. That's what it was designed for. The rotary couldn't get enough cooling air though. Since they are using a piston engine now, they don't need the cooling power. Specifically in the oil.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis_8
Man, I am not sure this is the way to do things.
Then at least they are consistent! They haven't done anything logical yet!
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
The "old Courage" is now the Furai concept car. It is the old Courage chassis. They only have one. The body work from the Courage was still lying around though as that's what they removed to make the Furai.

yes, thats what i thought too, they only had 1 courage chassis, and its the Furai now.

Unless they've acquired another one. But to only use it as a show car is a little waste of money, just show the real one like the Speedsource RX-8 along side it at the event.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
It looks like they have 2 cars, this picture was taken on monday's test day
I guess they'll race the Lola bodywork.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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From what others have said BK actually has two Lola's. So this is more than likely the other lola with the courage bodywork.
The idea of having two Lola's might be in response to the Lime Rock wreck.....extra parts to have around.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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That would make sense. That definitely is not the Courage. Since they had leftover bodywork, there was really nothing to lose by experimenting with it on the Lola.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
I disagree. Rotaries need way more cooling than piston engines do. It's obvious the chassis had decent cooling for piston engines. That's what it was designed for. The rotary couldn't get enough cooling air though. Since they are using a piston engine now, they don't need the cooling power. Specifically in the oil.
I disagree, a turbo piston engine needs a lot of cooling for the oil, just as much as a NA rotary

Acording to the engine builder for the courage the engine temps where just about perfect
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Maybe they're secretly experimenting a 3-rotor on the Lola chassis covered by Courage bodywork =)
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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Don't know if everyone saw it but the Mazola got bent up pretty good today in qualifying for Sebring.

http://www.endurance-info.com/2008_A...la_Mazda_5.jpg

http://www.endurance-info.com/2008_A...la_Mazda_1.jpg

They do have the second chassis (or is it a full car?) so hopefully they'll be able to make the race on Saturday. Bet those mechanics don't get to sleep till Sunday...
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Good that they have a rolling parts car around.

Lets race the Lola-Courage-B65-3-rotor!
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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At 3:43 pm, red flag all. Ben Devlin (#8-P2 Lola B07 46 Mazda) off and apparently slightly airborne and stopped on top of the tire barrier. Driver is out of the car and OK, but the car will need a tow.

Ben Devlin (#8-P2 Lola B07 46 Mazda) had the incident at the exit of turn 1. The clock continues to run. Devlin

is report OK, but the car is heavily damaged, as is the tire barrier.
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Damn another million down the drain
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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A wreck is a sign of more aggressive driving. That's something they have never done.
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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The car has the potential thats for sure, now it's time to go for it. Maybe we can thank the new sponsors for that.
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