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nycgps 04-19-2011 10:24 AM

It's almost 20 years since Le Mans 1991 787b win ...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DBgpAn6GnM

:SHOCKED:

good old days.

and they ban it right after Mazda's win. then they set some "so much for being fair" rules just to give Mazda a hard time.

laythor 04-19-2011 10:40 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YFogzI70oY

could listen to that engine all day long

HiFlite999 04-19-2011 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 3950721)
and they ban it right after Mazda's win. fair game anyone ?

What the Porsche/BMW/Audi/Mercedes want in racing organizations, they get. Mustn't have low-class upstarts taking home the trophies. :nono:

moRotorMotor 04-19-2011 11:17 AM

Very nice find, I have never seen that before.

MattMPS 04-19-2011 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by HiFlite999 (Post 3950750)
What the Porsche/BMW/Audi/Mercedes want in racing organizations, they get. Mustn't have low-class upstarts taking home the trophies. :nono:

they're European manufacturers and ACO listen a lot of their opinion...the rules with big advantages for diesels of the pasts years was done for a promised return of Peugeot Sport ;)

Japanese and US must adapt if they want compete.....;)

Not fair , but what is fair into motorsport?

moRotorMotor 04-19-2011 11:29 AM

I wonder why whenever I see the 787b on display, they have to blip the throttle like that? Is it because with a low, constant throttle, it will not burn all of the fuel and cause some sort of flooding?

Jedi54 04-19-2011 11:34 AM

it's because it scares the little german drivers to hear that engine.
Intimidation points ftw.

DailyDriver2k5 04-19-2011 01:44 PM

what a beautiful machine! If and only if Mazda rotaries could get back into the Le mans series again , sigh.....:tear:

moRotorMotor 04-19-2011 02:16 PM

I wonder what is Charge and Renown. Are they brands of something?

Jedi54 04-19-2011 02:22 PM

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Took these at SevenStock

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j_tso 04-19-2011 02:25 PM

Actually, anything that wasn't a 3.5 V10 was banned. Nissan and Porsche turbos, Jaguar V12s, etc were out.

It was Bernie Eccelstone's grand plan to screw sports car racing and make everyone develop F1 engines so he could fill the F1 grid. By 93 there were less than 10 cars and fewer races in WSC.

nycgps 04-19-2011 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by j_tso (Post 3951096)
Actually, anything that wasn't a 3.5 V10 was banned. Nissan and Porsche turbos, Jaguar V12s, etc were out.

It was Bernie Eccelstone's grand plan to screw sports car racing and make everyone develop F1 engines so he could fill the F1 grid. By 93 there were less than 10 cars and fewer races in WSC.

Yep, so many companies just exit out the race after around 1993.

Le Mans then got much less popular. that's what they deserve.

MattMPS 04-19-2011 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by moRotorMotor (Post 3951082)
I wonder what is Charge and Renown. Are they brands of something?

they was some brand of clothing (casual style) ....JDM-only products. the company was Osaka-based.

EDIT: still active ;)

http://www.renown.com/english/history/index.html

moRotorMotor 04-19-2011 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by MattMPS (Post 3951148)
they was some brand of clothing (casual style) ....JDM-only products. the company was Osaka-based.

EDIT: still active ;)

http://www.renown.com/english/history/index.html

Interesting! Thanks!...now what is Charge? :P :D:

j_tso 04-19-2011 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by DailyDriver2k5 (Post 3951041)
what a beautiful machine! If and only if Mazda rotaries could get back into the Le mans series again , sigh.....:tear:

They competed with an FC-looking RX-7 in 1994. 15th place between two NSXs.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-19-074.jpg
And a Speedhunters article

And they had an LMP2 win in 1996 with a 20B Kudzu (I think that's Jim Downing's company)
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-16-020.jpg

I don't see why they don't at least use a rotary in ALMS. It may not be competitive in power but at least it can finish a race. That MZR engine has had numerous mechanical failures.

MattMPS 04-19-2011 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by moRotorMotor (Post 3951173)
Interesting! Thanks!...now what is Charge? :P :D:

a brand (not existing i think) of renown company.....:D:

something kind of Japanese Levi's :lol:
EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARmQfo8GCg8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVLKuR_mMkA&NR=1

moRotorMotor 04-19-2011 04:19 PM

Damn, you are good! You have answers for everything!....ok, last question...what is the meaning of life?

alnielsen 04-19-2011 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by morotormotor (Post 3951254)
damn, you are good! You have answers for everything!....ok, last question...what is the meaning of life?

42.

tjbourgoyne 04-19-2011 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by j_tso (Post 3951096)
Actually, anything that wasn't a 3.5 V10 was banned. Nissan and Porsche turbos, Jaguar V12s, etc were out.

It was Bernie Eccelstone's grand plan to screw sports car racing and make everyone develop F1 engines so he could fill the F1 grid. By 93 there were less than 10 cars and fewer races in WSC.

Eccelstone is a real life Montgomery Burns. After reading his bio you would think someone would have shot him by now. He did get mugged and the crap beat out of him so close enough for someone who thinks Hitler was a great leader.

Mazmart 04-19-2011 07:35 PM

It's funny. That LeMans winning Mazda bears a striking resemblance to one we have at our race shop. :eyetwitch

Paul.

azzuro 04-19-2011 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Jedi54 (Post 3950832)
it's because it scares the little german drivers to hear that engine.
Intimidation points ftw.

Most epic exhaust note ever :SHOCKED:

nycgps 04-19-2011 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by MattMPS (Post 3951191)
a brand (not existing i think) of renown company.....:D:

something kind of Japanese Levi's :lol:


Charge line was a line for men. but for some reason it's a women's line now.

Renown still here and its a pretty big company/corporation in Japan.

http://www.renown.com

http://www.renown.com/brand/ladies/charge/index.html

nycgps 04-19-2011 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by j_tso (Post 3951190)
They competed with an FC-looking RX-7 in 1994. 15th place between two NSXs.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-19-074.jpg
And a Speedhunters article

And they had an LMP2 win in 1996 with a 20B Kudzu (I think that's Jim Downing's company)
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-06-16-020.jpg

I don't see why they don't at least use a rotary in ALMS. It may not be competitive in power but at least it can finish a race. That MZR engine has had numerous mechanical failures.

cuz they just BANNED Rotary engine. oh I mean they have "rules" in place and Rotary Engine does not meet those "rules" :SHOCKED:

moRotorMotor 04-20-2011 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 3951521)
It's funny. That LeMans winning Mazda bears a striking resemblance to one we have at our race shop. :eyetwitch

Paul.

We demand pictures! You can't hold out on us like that. :p::tear::yesnod:

Old Rotor 04-20-2011 12:24 AM

I really enjoyed those videos again and the sound still gives me chills....


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