Hmm Mugen been up to something
06-07-2006, 03:22 PM
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Hmm Mugen been up to something
Coming from Mugen who brought us the hot Fit Dynamite which the Fit's original 1.5 VTEC was replaced with a 2.0 liter i-VTEC engine, we can't expect them to leave the performance of the Civic alone right? Mugen has equipped the K20A 2.0 liter i-VTEC of the JDM Civic with a supercharger, bringing up total power up to 295 horsepower (300ps). The engine hooks up to a front-wheel drive 6-speed manual transmission. The car has a "Super Charger" text emblem above the front wheel arch.
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/...nator-concept/
Hmm notice the back doors has no handles . but still a front wheel car :P
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/12/...nator-concept/
Hmm notice the back doors has no handles . but still a front wheel car :P
06-07-2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by murix
The door handles are on the rear pillar. Look closely
but good eye murix
06-07-2006, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mugatu
300HP to the front wheels? AWESOME!!!!!
Not really.
Not really.
most of us dont drift on a daily basis, so im all for it personally
06-07-2006, 06:46 PM
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fwd scmhont wd. 300hp in a civic tuned well is pretty neat. im sure its fun to drive.
most of us dont drift on a daily basis, so im all for it personally
most of us dont drift on a daily basis, so im all for it personally
06-07-2006, 06:57 PM
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For fwd, I think it is best to go NA. Forced induction on a FWD and lots of torque is frustrating. I had 300hp to the wheel in my 97 Eclipse Turbo. Was much cooler to talk about then drive.
06-07-2006, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dinhx8
fwd scmhont wd. 300hp in a civic tuned well is pretty neat. im sure its fun to drive.
most of us dont drift on a daily basis, so im all for it personally
most of us dont drift on a daily basis, so im all for it personally
06-07-2006, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mugatu
who's talking about drifting? i'm talking about starting from a dead stop with that much power to the front wheels. is this new to you?
i wan'st talkin about drifting. im saying 300 hp in a honda/mugen tuned civic isn't that bad.
im sure its fun to drive. for daily driving purposes, most of us don't push our cars hard enough to 'feel' that much fwd rwd -ness. I just wouldn't dismiss a car solely on 300hp and FWD. I understand torque steer, i love rwd, i have a rx. Im just sayin that i don't think its such a clear dismisall as you had stated.
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06-08-2006, 12:59 AM
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How is it Done?
There are two ways to start a drift. The first is the clutching technique. When approaching a turn the driver will push in the clutch and shift his car into second gear. Then rev the engine up to around 4000-5000 rpm (it all depends all the model of the car being used) and then slightly turn away from the turn and then cut back towards it hard while at the same time popping the clutch and causing the rear wheels to spin. At this point the drifter has a loss of traction and is beginning to slide around the curve.
Now comes the hard part. You have to hold the drift until the next turn. To do this you must keep your foot on the accelerator while at the same time adjusting your car with the steering wheel so you don't spin out. It's not as easy as it sounds. Then as the drifter reaches the end of the turn and approaches the next turn which is in the opposite direction he must cut the wheel in that direction and in some cases, if the previous drift was to slow and they start to regain traction, they must pop the clutch again to get the wheels spinning. And that is how you drift a rear wheel drive car.
The second technique is used by a few drifters in rear wheel drives, but is the only way you can really drift a front wheel drive. You have to use the side brake. A front wheel drive can not whip it's tail out because the tires are being driven in the front as opposed to the rear. So when approaching a turn you pull the side brake to cause traction loss. And the rest is pretty much the same except that it's much harder to take more than one turn with a front wheel driver
of course ive never tried this so i dunno o_O
There are two ways to start a drift. The first is the clutching technique. When approaching a turn the driver will push in the clutch and shift his car into second gear. Then rev the engine up to around 4000-5000 rpm (it all depends all the model of the car being used) and then slightly turn away from the turn and then cut back towards it hard while at the same time popping the clutch and causing the rear wheels to spin. At this point the drifter has a loss of traction and is beginning to slide around the curve.
Now comes the hard part. You have to hold the drift until the next turn. To do this you must keep your foot on the accelerator while at the same time adjusting your car with the steering wheel so you don't spin out. It's not as easy as it sounds. Then as the drifter reaches the end of the turn and approaches the next turn which is in the opposite direction he must cut the wheel in that direction and in some cases, if the previous drift was to slow and they start to regain traction, they must pop the clutch again to get the wheels spinning. And that is how you drift a rear wheel drive car.
The second technique is used by a few drifters in rear wheel drives, but is the only way you can really drift a front wheel drive. You have to use the side brake. A front wheel drive can not whip it's tail out because the tires are being driven in the front as opposed to the rear. So when approaching a turn you pull the side brake to cause traction loss. And the rest is pretty much the same except that it's much harder to take more than one turn with a front wheel driver
of course ive never tried this so i dunno o_O
06-08-2006, 08:51 AM
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How is it Done?
There are two ways to start a drift. The first is the clutching technique. When approaching a turn the driver will push in the clutch and shift his car into second gear. Then rev the engine up to around 4000-5000 rpm (it all depends all the model of the car being used) and then slightly turn away from the turn and then cut back towards it hard while at the same time popping the clutch and causing the rear wheels to spin. At this point the drifter has a loss of traction and is beginning to slide around the curve.
Now comes the hard part. You have to hold the drift until the next turn. To do this you must keep your foot on the accelerator while at the same time adjusting your car with the steering wheel so you don't spin out. It's not as easy as it sounds. Then as the drifter reaches the end of the turn and approaches the next turn which is in the opposite direction he must cut the wheel in that direction and in some cases, if the previous drift was to slow and they start to regain traction, they must pop the clutch again to get the wheels spinning. And that is how you drift a rear wheel drive car.
The second technique is used by a few drifters in rear wheel drives, but is the only way you can really drift a front wheel drive. You have to use the side brake. A front wheel drive can not whip it's tail out because the tires are being driven in the front as opposed to the rear. So when approaching a turn you pull the side brake to cause traction loss. And the rest is pretty much the same except that it's much harder to take more than one turn with a front wheel driver
of course ive never tried this so i dunno o_O
There are two ways to start a drift. The first is the clutching technique. When approaching a turn the driver will push in the clutch and shift his car into second gear. Then rev the engine up to around 4000-5000 rpm (it all depends all the model of the car being used) and then slightly turn away from the turn and then cut back towards it hard while at the same time popping the clutch and causing the rear wheels to spin. At this point the drifter has a loss of traction and is beginning to slide around the curve.
Now comes the hard part. You have to hold the drift until the next turn. To do this you must keep your foot on the accelerator while at the same time adjusting your car with the steering wheel so you don't spin out. It's not as easy as it sounds. Then as the drifter reaches the end of the turn and approaches the next turn which is in the opposite direction he must cut the wheel in that direction and in some cases, if the previous drift was to slow and they start to regain traction, they must pop the clutch again to get the wheels spinning. And that is how you drift a rear wheel drive car.
The second technique is used by a few drifters in rear wheel drives, but is the only way you can really drift a front wheel drive. You have to use the side brake. A front wheel drive can not whip it's tail out because the tires are being driven in the front as opposed to the rear. So when approaching a turn you pull the side brake to cause traction loss. And the rest is pretty much the same except that it's much harder to take more than one turn with a front wheel driver
of course ive never tried this so i dunno o_O
Car i learned to drift in was 86 Trueno Trunk apex gt . The tech i use was alot of clutch kicking or heal and toe to e-brake to clutch kick if i was going really fast up or down a mountain side. To me cluctch kick is the best way to learn before you learn heal and toe to e-brake to clutch kick. Because less things to do :P. If you want to get into drifting but dotn know where to start learning how to, i would suggest getting cones or wht ever like that, and do Figure 8's. To me that is best way to learn, because you will learn how to control throttle and learn when to step the clutch in and out while in turns. and i suggest using clutch kick.
then i got into s turn drifting. for that i used alot of heal and toe to keep up speed for the 2nd immediate turn to make it more smooth then clutch kick. but that tech is more complicated, i ddidnt learn heal and toe until after 6months of drifting. So for that tech if you do get into drifing i let you learn on own.
Sorry if english is bad, 2nd language for me.
Side note any one lived in okinawa from 90-96? if so i went to Kubasaki HS until 93 and OCS HS 93-94. Drove a 86 red and black Trueno until engine went out . then i drove 92 rx7 Dark blue with Yellow Watanebe Rims. You would of seen me at Senuga drifting or Taku for mountain drifting. Or Naha port area drifrting on weekeends.
Ps, i know the drift king is bad ***, but to me the real Drift kings was these 2 guys at senuga who drove toyota beat up station wagon. they would go so fast and pull ebrake to make car do a 360 in to a drift. now i never seen any one do that before. they put us ppl who thought opening doors while drifting a corner was awesome to shame.
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06-08-2006, 05:27 PM
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Mugen does some nice work, it's just a shame that there aren't more RWD/AWD Hondas. To me, it feels like a waste to put so much power to the fronts. Then again, I really super don't like FWD dynamics on any car, so that may skew my opinion.
