Have you considered buying the MS6
#53
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Originally Posted by crossbow
A canadian reviewer just clocked the MPS 6 at 5.5 seconds to 100km/h.
Thats about 5.4 - 5.3 seconds to 60 mph.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123615525
This might be the first underrated mazda engine!
Thats about 5.4 - 5.3 seconds to 60 mph.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123615525
This might be the first underrated mazda engine!
I feel stupid now.
#60
Exactly. Mazda actually listened to the original reviewers. Supposedly there is actually more then just a final gearing change that occured after the inital negative press. Though I agree that the cold temp probably helped immensely (its current in the 30-40F's in most parts of canada, if not cooler), its still much faster then expected.
#62
Since the dimensions haven't really changed, there really isn't anything stopping someone from swapping the original 6 body kit on the car. You'd lose some intercooler efficency, but that could be fixed with a FMIC .
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I agree with you TOD.
1. I don't care if it's stiffer... the 5 door looks better. The Evo IX Wagon drops the same or almost as good track times as the sedan. What's wrong Mazda? Your engineers not good enough to design a good enough strut tower brace for the rear and if necessary some underbody braces?
2. I don't care if it IS functional... that rear spoiler is fugly!
3. What the hell with that rear end?! The black plastic crap around the exhaust. Whose idea was that? They should be fired!
4. The buldging raised hood because a hood scoop isn't "mature" enough? WTF?! A nice subtle one like on the Legacy GT looks perfectly fine to me. Worst case scenario... just use a dman FMIC instead... jeez. I checked one out at the Tokyo Motorshow... the hood id frankly just too damn tall! I mean like... imparing driver vision bad. I like to see the front of my car or most of the hood from the driver's seat... makes me feel more comfortable... better able to judge distances for tight maneuvers. This piece just sucks.
5. The wheels... those are so so.
Otherwise... it's a nice car. Just dunno if I'd drop the change to buy it over a Legacy GT.
1. I don't care if it's stiffer... the 5 door looks better. The Evo IX Wagon drops the same or almost as good track times as the sedan. What's wrong Mazda? Your engineers not good enough to design a good enough strut tower brace for the rear and if necessary some underbody braces?
2. I don't care if it IS functional... that rear spoiler is fugly!
3. What the hell with that rear end?! The black plastic crap around the exhaust. Whose idea was that? They should be fired!
4. The buldging raised hood because a hood scoop isn't "mature" enough? WTF?! A nice subtle one like on the Legacy GT looks perfectly fine to me. Worst case scenario... just use a dman FMIC instead... jeez. I checked one out at the Tokyo Motorshow... the hood id frankly just too damn tall! I mean like... imparing driver vision bad. I like to see the front of my car or most of the hood from the driver's seat... makes me feel more comfortable... better able to judge distances for tight maneuvers. This piece just sucks.
5. The wheels... those are so so.
Otherwise... it's a nice car. Just dunno if I'd drop the change to buy it over a Legacy GT.
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A canadian mag had already test drove it. They got a 0-60 of 5.3s. I hope more mags canget ahold of it soon.
For now, I hear mostly those in Canada receiving them. Probably do to orders that were put in vs sitting on lots.
For now, I hear mostly those in Canada receiving them. Probably do to orders that were put in vs sitting on lots.
#66
A few forum members have one now. The hood buldge is about 3-4 inches heigh, and only seems to make parking more difficult, it doesn't impede normal driving unless you like having the seat lowered to the floor.
Here's some photos of rainman's MPS 6. (Including hood buldge shots).
http://photobucket.com/albums/c329/premed00/?start=0
The TMIC venting system is actually pretty nice. Mazda's basically designed the scoop to be on the front of the car, instead of on top of the hood.
The rear spoiler is just a lip spoiler...would you rather they put a giant wing on the car?
I agree about the fugly wheels, and the fact the rear seats don't fold down will put off alot of people.
So far the general owner comments are...
1) Goes like a bat out of hell.
2) Slight inital turbo lag, rediculous low end grunt
3) Can feel the extra weight when turning/braking.
4) Brakes are fantastic
5) Grip is incredible.
Here's some photos of rainman's MPS 6. (Including hood buldge shots).
http://photobucket.com/albums/c329/premed00/?start=0
The TMIC venting system is actually pretty nice. Mazda's basically designed the scoop to be on the front of the car, instead of on top of the hood.
The rear spoiler is just a lip spoiler...would you rather they put a giant wing on the car?
I agree about the fugly wheels, and the fact the rear seats don't fold down will put off alot of people.
So far the general owner comments are...
1) Goes like a bat out of hell.
2) Slight inital turbo lag, rediculous low end grunt
3) Can feel the extra weight when turning/braking.
4) Brakes are fantastic
5) Grip is incredible.
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I just got back from the Mazda dealership and spoke to their sales training manager. He had been on a two day drive & learn with the MS6 and he loves the RX8 but told me that this car blows it away in the performance catagory. Both in speed, brakes & HANDLING which really suprised me. This dealership also sales Mitsu Evo's and he says this car compares with one of those maybe just a little slower, but without the rice boy looks and all the comform and attributes of the V6 Mazda. Guys I am really thinking about this car. He says the 0-60 is close to 5.0 seconds flat. He told me that the pre-sale numbers are HUGE and they will have a hard time keeping them on the lot.
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Originally Posted by UK BLACK
I just got back from the Mazda dealership and spoke to their sales training manager. He had been on a two day drive & learn with the MS6 and he loves the RX8 but told me that this car blows it away in the performance catagory. Both in speed, brakes & HANDLING which really suprised me. This dealership also sales Mitsu Evo's and he says this car compares with one of those maybe just a little slower, but without the rice boy looks and all the comform and attributes of the V6 Mazda. Guys I am really thinking about this car. He says the 0-60 is close to 5.0 seconds flat. He told me that the pre-sale numbers are HUGE and they will have a hard time keeping them on the lot.
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yes sadly the MS6 handles better than the rx8........ feels faster too. i was at browning mazda one day when this guy from mazda HQ rolled in with a MS6, he took me and 2 other salesmen for a test drive. it was fast.......... took a sharp onramp at 75......... i wouldnt dare to do that in my 8 lol
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Originally Posted by Titanium RX
yes sadly the MS6 handles better than the rx8........ feels faster too. i was at browning mazda one day when this guy from mazda HQ rolled in with a MS6, he took me and 2 other salesmen for a test drive. it was fast.......... took a sharp onramp at 75......... i wouldnt dare to do that in my 8 lol
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Originally Posted by Titanium RX
yes sadly the MS6 handles better than the rx8........ feels faster too. i was at browning mazda one day when this guy from mazda HQ rolled in with a MS6, he took me and 2 other salesmen for a test drive. it was fast.......... took a sharp onramp at 75......... i wouldnt dare to do that in my 8 lol
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36 month lease for 339/month 3784 due at signing. Seems like a pretty good deal. I'm trying to talk my wife into considering it since it's time to replace her current car.
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Originally Posted by crossbow
A few forum members have one now. The hood buldge is about 3-4 inches heigh, and only seems to make parking more difficult, it doesn't impede normal driving unless you like having the seat lowered to the floor.
The TMIC venting system is actually pretty nice. Mazda's basically designed the scoop to be on the front of the car, instead of on top of the hood.
The rear spoiler is just a lip spoiler...would you rather they put a giant wing on the car?
I agree about the fugly wheels, and the fact the rear seats don't fold down will put off alot of people.
So far the general owner comments are...
1) Goes like a bat out of hell.
2) Slight inital turbo lag, rediculous low end grunt
3) Can feel the extra weight when turning/braking.
4) Brakes are fantastic
5) Grip is incredible.
1) Goes like a bat out of hell.
2) Slight inital turbo lag, rediculous low end grunt
3) Can feel the extra weight when turning/braking.
4) Brakes are fantastic
5) Grip is incredible.
2) probably not such a big deal when you think about the 8's power band
3) only matters in autocrossing. FOr a daily driving... not such a big deal
4) hmm....
5) hmm....
Now if only it looked better....
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Originally Posted by crossbow
A few forum members have one now.
http://photobucket.com/albums/c329/premed00/?start=0
So far the general owner comments are...
1) Goes like a bat out of hell.
2) Slight inital turbo lag, rediculous low end grunt
3) Can feel the extra weight when turning/braking.
4) Brakes are fantastic
5) Grip is incredible.
http://photobucket.com/albums/c329/premed00/?start=0
So far the general owner comments are...
1) Goes like a bat out of hell.
2) Slight inital turbo lag, rediculous low end grunt
3) Can feel the extra weight when turning/braking.
4) Brakes are fantastic
5) Grip is incredible.