They ran the car lastnight again and had a little bit better results than the first time out ;) Still some traction issues, but they managed to break the Evo VIII record.

http://media.ams-evo8.com/videos/amsevo/923run.wmv

Nice stuff Ike. That thing is insane. I wish AMS would open a shop out here! Vishnu is 5 minutes from my house but I won't take my Evo there. Too many bad experiences from other NorCal owners. Plus Shiv bashes other vendors a lot online which is sorta unproffesional IMHO.

I'd deal with Shiv long before Al and maybe even Buschur. But yeah, the three of them act like children on EvoM.

Al definately comes across like a dumb hick to me. Shiv is the pretentious one. They've been banned from EvoM once before. I know they've been given a "zero tolerance" policy by the admins but I'll think they'll eventually argue like 9 year olds again.

Al really deserves the swipes that Shiv has taken at him, he's screwed up a lot of cars and there's a good reason why he tunes mostly Evos and not Subys anymore. Dave's problem is he backs up Al and allows himself to be manipulated by Al to come to his defense. With Buschur being Al's buddy and offering Warrtalon packages, I will never buy a single product from DB.

At times I like the sound of a 20G IX but I'd probably buy from somebody other than DB if I chose to go that route too. Definately a soap opera over there on EvoM with Warrtalon, Shiv, Al, Buschur, and some of the other vendors and members.

Buschur is right down the road from me...