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Aipex8 08-04-2008 05:39 PM

And now Ford is thinking about selling Mazda...!?

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/04/a...raise-capital/

Renesis_8 08-04-2008 10:02 PM

2.5bil..

can mazda buy it back? I really dont' want to see any other manufactuers end up owning a controlling interest in mazda. not that Ford is any good, i don't wanna see Toyota buy Mazda!!!
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LIVE SEX

DOMINION 08-05-2008 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 2581200)
They still have Wu Huang Chin, the main designer of the FD RX7. I've seen him walking around the R&D building.

Paul.

Thats cus he is working in secret with some "other OG" Mazda heads on the new 7. Or what ever Mazda is going to call it.

superglue 08-05-2008 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by dynamho (Post 2581623)
They need him. The Tesla Roadster styling is quite bland IMO.

????????? :eyetwitch

Design1stCode2nd 08-05-2008 08:39 AM

Ford won't sell Mazda, it wouldn't be worth it once it was all said and done.

zoom44 08-05-2008 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 2581594)

i just saw that and was coming to post!

dynamho 08-05-2008 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by superglue (Post 2582398)
????????? :eyetwitch

Yes. Bland with a B.:)

playdoh43 08-05-2008 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 2582694)
i just saw that and was coming to post!

you're loosing your edge :p

RK 08-05-2008 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by dynamho (Post 2581623)
They need him. The Tesla Roadster styling is quite bland IMO.

Really? Haven't seen one in person but I think it looks pretty damn good. Especially considering how other electric cars were being designed. They seem to take some cues from Lotus and the MX5. Definitely nothing groundbreaking but I wouldn't call it 'bland' either.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/marliemars/2681768748/

Franz should be a good fit if they're going for a more distinctive style.

knicks1984 08-05-2008 11:41 AM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

dynamho 08-05-2008 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by RK (Post 2582860)
Definitely nothing groundbreaking but I wouldn't call it 'bland' either.

I think you got it. For a car with a six figure price tag and the significance the car has for the auto industry, I think the styling is anti-climactic.

I still remember the dramatic effect the styling of the Lotus Esprit S1 (007-Spy Who Loved Me) had on me and other kids way back when. Supercars were supercars, like when the Lamborghini Countach first came out, or classics like the AC Cobra, or even Speed Racer's original Mach5.

IMHO, even the Lotus Elise somehow lost its way in styling. The first generation was simply gorgeous, now it looks like an alien cockroach.

Series 1:
https://www.secure-travel.co.uk/tms/...Series%201.jpg

Current:
https://www.secure-travel.co.uk/tms/...us%20Exige.jpg

Given the significance of Tesla Roadster, I maintain that the styling is relatively bland.

I'm rambling. I think it's just me. I'm just the peanut gallery.

superglue 08-05-2008 07:54 PM

I've taken a good look at the roadsters up close in person. Maybe something is lost in translation in pictures, but I happen to think they look damn good.

robrecht 08-05-2008 11:19 PM


Originally Posted by RK (Post 2582860)
They seem to take some cues from Lotus and the MX5.

No kidding. Aren't the basic car parts of the Tesla, except for the electrical drive train and batteries, basically designed and built by Lotus?

alz0rz 08-05-2008 11:31 PM

this guy has now been hired by tesla motors

dynamho 08-06-2008 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by robrecht (Post 2584079)
No kidding. Aren't the basic car parts of the Tesla, except for the electrical drive train and batteries, basically designed and built by Lotus?

I think so. The new Evora looks like the Tesla.

rotarygod 08-06-2008 11:34 AM

The Tesla is a Lotus Elise chassis. I've seen the Elise up close and ridden in one. They are indeed very tiny. Their design is perfect though. The bottom of the car is completely flat for aerodynamics. The radiator lies down horizontally with the air from the grille flowing through a nice sealed duct upwards through the radiator then out the hood vents above it. This orientation allows natural convention properties, namely hot air rising, to automatically pull air upwards and away from the radiator. This is useful with little airflow such as when stopped. The whole car is designed fantastically. The Tesla should be as equally well designed.

Floyd 08-06-2008 12:48 PM

I'll bet Tesla will have the balls to do more than make show cars w/ Franz' designs too. Can you imagine something as sexy as the Furari actualy out on the road?

neXib 08-06-2008 04:37 PM

I think electric cars need hugeass outboard speakers, perhaps with 3 rotor PP engine sound or something customizable :P Cause it sounds plain lame currently. And it's a hazard too when it's that quiet.

ASH8 08-06-2008 05:03 PM

Yeah Franz has moved from very large car maker in Mazda to Tesla's (Tin Pot Show) in any comparison.

Yeah ,Tesla must have offered him Millions to come over..:lol:
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog5/?p=60

ASH8 08-06-2008 05:05 PM

http://hosted.vresp.com/294382/3dda7...95/d1d426654f/

tajabaho1 08-06-2008 06:04 PM

he went to Tesla motors company

Floyd 08-06-2008 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by tajabaho1 (Post 2585359)
he went to Tesla motors company

On top of it as always taj :lol: gg

Rootski 08-06-2008 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Aipex8 (Post 2581707)
And now Ford is thinking about selling Mazda...!?

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/04/a...raise-capital/

Why not? They've sold every other profitable part.

dynamho 10-24-2008 05:15 PM

Franz is doing pretty good in my view.
This car looks nice.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/i...1443041416.jpg

dynamho 10-24-2008 05:17 PM

Oh, the article is here.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=7201


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