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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Ford's Massive recall ---- Will it effect us ?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ford-a...14213.html?x=0

wow ... 10 years. 14.3 Millions recalled over cruise control switch that might result in a fire.



I hope this doesnt effect us ... as Mazda share quite a lot of parts with Ford. the switch came form TI
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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Tell you what.......I had a 96 Exploder XLT.....I think it was about 2000 when one day I get in it after work, start it up and I notice one of the buttons on the steering wheel looks a little funny. It was like this white stuff on the button. Not thinking about it too much, I touch it to rub it off and it was the actual white lettering that had turned to goo along with the entire cruise button and freaking melted hot plastic onto my finger!
Anyway, don't think it will effect us and I didn't read the article, but heard about it on the news this evening. Don't know if it is vehicles with the buttons or on shafts.........or both?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Article says:

he recall covers 1.1 million Ford Windstar minivans that had a small risk of fire due to internal leaking from the switches. Ford said in a letter to federal regulators that it found a small number of reported fires linked to the problem during an internal investigation that began last year, but did not specify how many.

The remaining 3.4 million vehicles are Ford, Lincoln and Mercury models. Ford said there were no reports of fires with those models, most of them trucks and sport utility vehicles, but that they were included in the recall because they use the same switches. All vehicles covered by the recall are from the 1992 to 2003 model years.

The recall covers the following model years: 1995-2003 Ford Windstar; 2000-2003 Ford Excursion diesel; 1993-1997 and 1999-2003 Ford F-Super Duty diesel; 1992-2003 Ford Econoline; 1995-2002 Ford Explorer; 1995-2002 Mercury Mountaineer; 1995-1997 and 2001-2003 Ford Ranger; and 1994 Ford F35 Motorhome vehicles.

Article reading FAIL.

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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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Maybe it won't be too bad. Hopefully most of those got clunked for cash...
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Yeah, I doubt Mazda or us will have a problem, I am very sure Mazda Japan do not use Texas Instrument made guages and switches in their Hiroshima made cars.

Could be the US (Ford's Flat Rock) made Mazda MPV V6, which even made it's way to Australia.
This has an Vacuum Type Actuator with a small Vacuum Pipe or hose from 1993 to 1999.

Not sure of what they mean about 'fluid leaking" and or causing a fire?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Article says:




Article reading FAIL.

failed ?

The latest voluntary action pushes Ford's total recall due to faulty switches to 14.3 million registered vehicles over 10 years, capping the company's largest cumulative recall in history involving a single problem.
DarkLord has failed
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
failed ?



DarkLord has failed
Article clearly says the make and models affected, L2Read.

I even quoted the makes & models listed and bolded it.


I'll quote again:

The recall covers the following model years: 1995-2003 Ford Windstar; 2000-2003 Ford Excursion diesel; 1993-1997 and 1999-2003 Ford F-Super Duty diesel; 1992-2003 Ford Econoline; 1995-2002 Ford Explorer; 1995-2002 Mercury Mountaineer; 1995-1997 and 2001-2003 Ford Ranger; and 1994 Ford F35 Motorhome vehicles.

I don't see "Mazda" in there anywhere..
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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I don't see "Mazda" in there anywhere..
Was there a Ford equivalent to the Mazda MPV which was US/Ford made?
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Article clearly says the make and models affected, L2Read.

I even quoted the makes & models listed and bolded it.


I'll quote again:




I don't see "Mazda" in there anywhere..
let me quote myself again then.

I hope this doesnt effect us ... as Mazda share quite a lot of parts with Ford. the switch came form TI
I said I HOPE this does not effect us ... I NEVER SAID its affecting us ... READ !

*Shurgs*
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Article says:




Article reading FAIL.

actually... that's just what was covered in the update... this site lists all the cars covered.

http://www.switchfires.com/

I only noticed that it wasn't a complete list because my friend's car had this issue on her taurus SHO and didn't see it listed lol.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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Well, I don't think Ford can issue recalls for Mazda or any other company they share stuff with (Volvo?)
Ford would have to notify Mazda of the cars containing the switch, or cause of the issue, and Mazda would then need to research and issue a recall of their own.
It worked like that in companies I've worked for, but they had squat to do with cars, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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I had a 1995 F-150 that had the switch, simple fix was to unplug it, no cruise but I didn't care. That switch was part of the master cylinder, RX-8's do not have that switch. The post below has a photo of that switch.

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...94&postcount=5
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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My Lincoln Navigator (back in 98) had it's cruise control recalled...nice to see the problem is back....
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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(I've got a 2001 F-250 Super Duty Diesel -- I figure the 1.3 Rotary makes up for the 7.3L Diesel for a nice average displacement of 4.3L....)

And imagine, when they recalled all of the F-Super Duties a few years back they said the Diesel wasn't affected.. I was very confused by that since it has the SAME master cylinder as the gasoline models..

Ford really annoys me on things like this. Apparently their accountants and engineers don't bother to talk...
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Does anyone really like talking to accountants?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by expo1
Does anyone really like talking to accountants?
I do, everyday ... (GF is certified CPA ... LOL)
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Well they are a step above people in marketing.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by expo1
Well they are a step above people in marketing.
problem is, she still suck at math. well I know accountants have nothing to do with math but ... argh whatever
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
Tell you what.......I had a 96 Exploder XLT.....I think it was about 2000 when one day I get in it after work, start it up and I notice one of the buttons on the steering wheel looks a little funny. It was like this white stuff on the button. Not thinking about it too much, I touch it to rub it off and it was the actual white lettering that had turned to goo along with the entire cruise button and freaking melted hot plastic onto my finger!
Anyway, don't think it will effect us and I didn't read the article, but heard about it on the news this evening. Don't know if it is vehicles with the buttons or on shafts.........or both?
So...(and sorry if this is covered elsewhere in the thread or article but....) apparently the issue is different than what I had. Seems that for some unknown reason(to me anyway), brake fluid can drip or leak from the brake reservoir and get into a cruise control sensor(or something) located near the brake reservoir. Since the wire bundle leading to the sensor or module is always under power(even with car off) it can ignite!!!!!!
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
Tell you what.......I had a 96 Exploder XLT.....I think it was about 2000 when one day I get in it after work, start it up and I notice one of the buttons on the steering wheel looks a little funny. It was like this white stuff on the button. Not thinking about ford ranger parts too much, I touch it to rub it off and it was the actual white lettering that had turned to goo along with the entire cruise button and freaking melted hot plastic onto my finger!
Anyway, don't think it will effect us and I didn't read the article, but heard about it on the news this evening. Don't know if it is vehicles with the buttons or on shafts.........or both?
I remember that one. Not only Ford. But most of the car manufacturers got this massive recalls. That's really a big turn-off.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Our cruise control is on the PCM. We only have logic switches for it.
There are no active controls with real power switches in our system.

So, uh, no.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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CRAP!
my Explorer is in that range, stupid recall!
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