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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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first rotary powered deLorean

dunno if this is a repost, but check it out, the first rotary powered deLorean.

ROTARY DELOREAN!!




We've successfully installed a Mazda 3-rotor rotary engine into this car! Rotary people know this engine as the 20B, it is a 1.962 liter engine with sequential twin turbos. This engine was originally made for the Mazda Eunos Cosmo, we picked up a model year 1990. This engine yields about 300HP, and 297ft-lb of torque at 3000RPM. We have not had the time to weigh the car, though the stock Delorean claimed just over a 2700 pound dry weight. We guess that the 2.0 liter rotary and the 2.8L PRV V-6 engine weigh about the same. With this horsepower and low weight, this car really moves!
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:44 AM
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great...
so Ive seen a rotary DeLorean, a rotary WRX, a rotary Skyline....what's next?
I wouldn't mind a 26B Lambo tho ^^
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:54 AM
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We have not had the time to weigh the car, though the stock Delorean claimed just over a 2700 pound dry weight. We guess that the 2.0 liter rotary and the 2.8L PRV V-6 engine weigh about the same. With this horsepower and low weight, this car really moves!
im not following their logic here
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nvrfalter
im not following their logic here
Hi.

From Wikipedia, the specifications for the STOCK Delorean engine:

Specifications

  • Power (DIN): 100 kW (134 hp) at 92 r/s (136 hp at 5,500 rpm) [2]
  • Power (SAE): 97 kW (130 hp) at 92 r/s (130 hp at 5,500 rpm)
  • Torque (DIN): 215 N·m (159 lb·ft) at 48 r/s
  • Torque (SAE): 208 N·m (153 lb·ft) at 48 r/s (153 ft·lbf at 2,750 rpm)
  • Compression ratio: 8.8:1
  • Bore: 91 mm (3.6 in)
  • Stroke: 73 mm (2.9 in)
  • Displacement: 2,849 cm³
  • Firing order: 1-6-3-5-2-4
  • Weight: ~150 kg (331 lb)
So, you can see that for the same wight, they have about tripled the horsepower in the car. That is pretty cool...


I drove a Delorean a few times back in the day, and (to be kind), it was not a powerful car by any means.

Also, my Dad had a Volvo 262C of about the same vintage, with the same engine as the Delorean, and it was a slug - could barely accelerate out of it's own way.....
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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i just wasnt seeing how the 2.0L RE was weighing the same as the 2.8L V6
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:34 AM
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The 20B-REW in the Eunos is reported (on several non-Mazda websites*) to weigh 350kg fully-dressed. For comparison, the same websites put a 'racing version' of the 20B at 143kg.

I think what gh8st was quoting was comparing a ~143kg rotary with a ~150kg piston engine.

I have some doubts as to the 350kg number for the 20B (for comparison, a 13G 3-rotor race engine also seems to weigh in at around the 150kg mark).

Hope this helps.


* Link: http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg20.htm
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:50 AM
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That is the single coolest thing I have ever seen in my life. I've always wanted a Delorean and throwing a 3 rotor into it just makes it complete.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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I wonder how hard it was to adapt that engine to RR format? Are they using the stock tranny off of the Delorean?
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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This car was built several years ago. With the original engine, I don't see how it could top 88 mph. This would seem to be supported by the fact that you can't outrun a VW van full of terrorists. The 20B could though.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
This car was built several years ago. With the original engine, I don't see how it could top 88 mph. This would seem to be supported by the fact that you can't outrun a VW van full of terrorists. The 20B could though.

But the delorean doesn't need to go faster than 88 mph as long as it has it's flux capacitor
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
This car was built several years ago. With the original engine, I don't see how it could top 88 mph. This would seem to be supported by the fact that you can't outrun a VW van full of terrorists. The 20B could though.
But why would you want a car that you had to keep under 88 mph, other than the fact of time travel. Speaking of which... i think my flux capacitor is on the fritz again, can someone help?
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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If I recall correctly, the DeLorean was originally spec'ed out to run on a Wankel from Citroen, but was ditched due to fuel economy reasons.

So this is a return to its true design.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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nice find, this sure is gonna take you faster back in the future!
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamho
If I recall correctly, the DeLorean was originally spec'ed out to run on a Wankel from Citroen, but was ditched due to fuel economy reasons.

So this is a return to its true design.
wow thats a cool little fun fact
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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damn, thats one fast delorean
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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A revolutionary motor for a revolutionary car.

Sweet deal.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Sorry if this is a noob question. But other than Back To The Future and its RR drive chain...what other significance does a DeLorean play? Why is it so famous?
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zara
Sorry if this is a noob question. But other than Back To The Future and its RR drive chain...what other significance does a DeLorean play? Why is it so famous?

Well, Wikipedia is your friend....

A couple of salient points (from my memory):

  • Former Big 3 auto exec starts own car company.
  • Funding from Canadian and Northern Irish governments
  • 1979?
  • Car made of unpainted stainless steel (later ones were painted / clearcoated)
  • Gull-wing doors.
  • Relatively low price (about the same as a BMW or Mercedes of the day).
  • Company gets into financial trouble.
  • Founder (John DeLorean) busted for millions-dollar drugs sting. Rumor that it was to help bail out the car company.
  • Company fails... Causes government scandal in N.Ireland.
  • 1982?
  • 2008 - another company buys inventory and announces that they will re-start production. Haven't heard anything more.

Last edited by Silver06; Mar 5, 2009 at 01:19 PM. Reason: fixed the ending date to 1982.
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver06
[*]2008 - another company buys inventory and announces that they will re-start production.[/LIST]
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg

Ross.... I kid you not!

You can get one today starting at $57,500 (according to the website, at least).

Link: http://www.delorean.com/sales.asp


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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zara
Sorry if this is a noob question. But other than Back To The Future and its RR drive chain...what other significance does a DeLorean play? Why is it so famous?
It was also in The Wedding Singer
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Now that is a DeLorean I would actually want to own
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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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it says it is a twin turbo 20B but only makes 300hp?
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