alfy28

Wow talk about exciting race. Especially on the last lap, the battle between Masa and Robert (updated, i had wrong driver listed here. thanks Demon for the correction) was an awesome sight to see. As they run each other off the track lol.

Even though i do not like ALonso much, i felt bad for the guy when he crashed his car into the wall at mid race.

Also for the viewers, what are your thoughts about Team Ferrari using intermdiate tires at the begining of the race, even though FIA told every one to use All wet tires. Ferrarai said tehy did not know they was not suppose to use them.

I hope next year instead of fuji track, they use suzuka again. i love that track, i find it more exciting then the fuji track. next race will be at china which is another awesome track to watch.

well any ways grats to hamilton, i hope he wins the championship. it will be cool to see a rookie for the first time take the championship.

Phil_Hendrie_is_back

Now I believe Hamilton will win the title.

nu2rx8

Great win for Hamilton, clearly the fastest on track and w/o any mistakes... and now over 100pts in his rookie season unbelievable. Too bad for Alonso, he should have finished in the points if not on the podium if not for bad luck. It'll be interesting to see how he and Kimi respond at Shanghai this week.

Speaking of responses, I'm sure Webber had few things to say to young mister Vettel as a result of that bonehead accident. Alonso probably has a bone to pick with him as well.

alfy28

oh yah webber, i bet he was very pissed. i to am curious if webber confronted vittel. and sad thing is both are red bull team. but yah webber is another of my favorites.

DemonRX-8

Kimi's last lap battle was with Heikki (not Coulthard) - I think you meant the battle between Massa and Kubica. Wow, now there was some old school racing . . . and in the wet of all things!!

I'm a Ferrari fan, but two things I can't believe about this race:

1. I don't buy that they didn't receive word that the FIA had ruled that everyone was to start on full wet tires. And then the fact that it was just pain stupid. Any moron could have looked at the conditions and figured out that a) you needed full wets, and b) it f***ing is not going to stop raining any time soon! Starting the race on intermediates was just plain stupid.

2. Massa's last pit stop reeks of team orders.

I wouldn't be too surprised if the FIA "looks" into this. All in all, I'm happy for Hamilton - I like the kid and I belive he's the real deal. The driver's title is pretty much his to lose at this point.

Alonso spinning and mucking his car, wow that was a major crash . . . anyone notice there was NO TV footage of the actual accident? Let the conspiracy theories begin, because how could he loose it that bad on braking and have that big of an impact without some sort of mechanical failure . . . looks like he was coming out of 100R into the tight left hand hairpin - he would have had to loose it right at the right-left transition. Not that I'm very broken up about it. The Universe is still in order.

Oh, and finally, you might want to put **SPOILER** in the thread title because I'm sure most people didn't stay up to watch the race!

alfy28

YOu are very correct, it was robert and Massa battling it out. and thanks for the correct info Demon my bad.

as for Ferrai, i know what you mean. i mean if the other what 20+ teams got the memo to put all wets on, i just cant see ferrari not getting that memo. also i would think they would use some type of Messaging system like a email or something like that. also their excuse was, they didnt sign any papers stating that they had to use all Wets. and the funny thing is, 15mins before the pace car even had taken off, the announcers had said all cars are going to be using all wets.

as for alonso, i know before he had wrecked he had some damage to his mid body of this car. but yah i really wish i could of seen what exactly happend there.

oh yah thanks i sure will put spoiler up.

RWatters

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If it was Hamilton that would have wrecked there would have been 15 minutes of replays, 20 minutes of them talking about how great he is even though he wrecked, and a 30 minute "after the wreck" special on the next Formula 1 coverage weekend.

Congrats to Hamilton, though. I'm sure he needed another steak and ******* from the announcers, anyways. It's been a week or two.

BigRed

alfy almost has 1000 posts!

CERAMICSEAL

Wow, you sure don't like Hamilton. Any partocular reasons that you can share as to your despise of a young man that most of the experts are praising?

When Alonso was coming on the scene, I picked him early for a soon to be champion. I've been very pleased to see I was correct. I've had the same feelings about Hamilton and if I was a betting man I'd say he stands a strong chance of wrapping this championship up. The difference between thje two (In my mind) is that Alonso's arrogance has gotten out of hand and he seems willing to backstab any and everybody, when things are in his favor and when they aren't.

I hope you change your mind about Lewis and just enjoy the show.

RX26b

I'm one of those who believe this Louie guy must pay his dues, and certainly before claiming a championship his rookie year. He made mention of Prost and Senna drives in the rain in his post-race conference; well, I'll say this, when you look at what Senna did in one of his first races his rookie year in the rain- he started near the back , in a POS Toleman and absolutely blew by the field. The race was called extremely premature with Prost in the lead and Senna gaining on the frog's *** at an enormous pace, no doubt that within another lap the victory wouldve been the Brazilian's. I don't see any comparison in a true "rain master" like Senna and Dennis' boy.

lesper4

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what was the middle part of the race like? i fell asleep at the beginning of the race 10 laps and the safety car was sill leading them. then i saw a repy of the race today (just the last lap) it was exciting!

Phil_Hendrie_is_back

I have mixed feelings also. I'll tell you, Alonso got screwed by his own team all season. That is the simple reality, whether you like him or hate him. It isn't normal for a two-time champion to walk into a situaton like that.

No other rookie ever walked into a top-two team like Hamilton did. As mentioned above, Senna had to pay his dues early on a shitty team. But walking onto a winning team is not Hamilton's doing, obviously. Therefore, if he wins the championship, he will have done it on his own merit. And he will then need to be commended for it.

RWatters

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I fail to see anywhere in my post where I openly said that I dislike Hamilton?

I have nothing against him, and to deny that he is the next big thing would be insane. He is a great driver, but I cannot STAND the ball-licking that the announcers give him now. Yes I know it's press surrounding a big deal, but it's drawn me to the point where I won't even watch a Formula 1 race anymore simply due to the fact that it is THAT annoying to hear them go on and on about him.

I loved watching F1 races due to the announcers being very open and not exactly politically correct at all times. Now it's just the Lewis Hamilton hour so I see no point in watching. I just hop on the web and watch the live timing and scoring to get what I need while I'm at work.

RWatters

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You almost sound like Alonso.

I'm a huge Alonso fan, but it's his fault he's on a team that wants equality and hired another excellent driver. He needs to sit down, shut up, and focus on a driver's championship instead of thinking of what he'll do next to screw his own team over.

MazdaMonkey

Thanks for putting the spoiler in the thread's title......

I Tivoed and was going to watch tonight... doh!

BlueRenesis82

Not exactly surprising that Massa was pulled into the pits, after all Ferrari did make an announcement that relegated Massa to #2 status for the rest of the season, since he is eliminated from the title chase.

Celronx

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Well, I don't think Hamilton should necessarily have to pay his dues elsewhere before he's champion. He has already paid dues

He's started driving in the McLaren driver developement program when he was 14. He's 22 now (almost 23). He has driving titles in 3 series'(British Formula Renault, Formula 3, and GP2). He's a great driver who has worked his way up through the classes/series like the other guys have, he just got on with the right team from the beginning.

RWatters

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Hamilton is a great driver and deserves where he is and what he's won.

DemonRX-8

No question about that - just that it was a little blatant and it cost Massa two positions (almost three). He could have easily "out-braked" himself at the chicane to let Kimi by and only loose one position.

Rosko350z

I agree with Rwatters. I also can hardly tolerate the praise laid on Hamilton by Hobbes, Matchett and Windsor. They're all English. They love him and McLaren! They have too much bias, and it's soooo blatant! It has made me dislike Hamilton. Every race since about the half-way point, I have rooted for him to fail, so the endless chatter will stop. It's gotten so bad, that I started rooting for Alonso - and I'm not a fan of Mr. Unibrow either!

On the other hand, the FIA needs to get their **** together. Somehow they failed to get Ferrari the word to switch to full wets, which doomed them to the back of the grid. If Raikonnen started in third with full wets, Hamilton would've been toast. Kim was passing everything in sight to get from the back to the front. He had one of his best races ever. Praise to Felipe' for seeing the bigger picture, and letting him by easy. Man, it was a great fight between Kimi and Heikki and Massa / Kubica.

Conspiracy Theory: (1) No notification to Ferrari about full wets spelled doom for Ferrari and sure made Hamilton's day easier (2) Kubica got black flagged for racing wheel to wheel with Hamilton (3) Alonso's car mysteriously crashed

I think Bernie, McLaren and the FIA have already decided who will the WDC.

RWatters

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I don't hate Hamilton at all. I think he's a fantastic driver, but it's a Formula 1 race and not the Lewis Hamilton hour so it doesn't need to be treated like that. I understand he's a big deal, but they still need to be doing their job better.

I think Ferrari was BSing that they didn't receive it. The undoubtedly most important team in F1 doesn't get such a crucial memo? My ***. They tried getting away with it and were called out IMO. I don't think that the FIA is that bad about stuff like that. lol

BlueRenesis82

lol, if the FIA had any say in it it would be against the rules to win a championship unless you had a red car with a prancing horse on it.

alfy28

well hamilton did awesome in GP2 series. one of the best drivers in the class. so its no suprise mclaren wanted him when he came to F1 series. also most of the time, he makes the best time for Postion's. to me he just an awesome driver.

alfy28

lol wow, i just notice that. thanks big red , i would of missed the 1k mark lol.

moRotorMotor

First of all, I agree that Lewis deserved this win hands down. Second... people on this forum need to stop putting spoilers in the thread title. Really ruined it for me watching the race, knowing who already won.