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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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F@#$king gas prices

Who's bright idea was it to charge more for credit card purchases....that's a load of crap.

I'll be damned if I'm going to that station again
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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What station is that? I haven't heard of that.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Gas stations have to pay some fee when customers use credit cards.

I guess this station was trying to pass on the fee.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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yeah i've been to a few stations like that. They should charge more for cash because their requires much more effort.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Out here, there are some 76 stations that do that. They have the cash price in huge numbers, and if you get suckered in and go to use a credit or check card, the pump updates with the credit prices that are on a much smaller sign.

I've noticed that some stations also charge a "convenience" fee if you simply use your ATM/CheckCard of anywhere from $0.50 to $1.50. I just avoid those places all together.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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No credit card company's policies allow charging extra for using the card. Report them to the credit card company.
I also avoid any station that charges extra for using an ATM card.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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gas stations have to buy the gas like you and I do.

because prices are high, people are looking out for lower prices even more than normal. some stores are barely making 3-5 cents per gallon. if you pay by credit card they may even lose money on the sale.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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That does not change the fact that asking extra for accepting the card is illegal. If they don't like that policy, they should not accept cards.
They are free to raise their prices to the "credit card" level for all purchases if they want though.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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gas stations have a razor thin profit margin from selling gas, most of their profit comes from selling convenient store items.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Is there a fee if you use the gas/brand/station credit card?
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Old May 25, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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yea, alot a places charge more. i used to work for sunoco a while ago. i still do my oil changes and stuff there. the owner only makes 3-5 cents a gallon. and when you use credit he only makes 2-3 cents a gallon. its not like station is ripping you off. dont get mad at them. they have to buy gas for the station, and the gas they sell, dose not make close to enough money to refill the station. on a friday he profits about 30-40 dollars after he pays for the gas that was pumped. its crazy i know, i had to look at his books to believe it, but yea.

he just puts tape over the credit slot saying out of order so people have to pay cash. i think thats funny as ****
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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We lost our family shell gas station in the 70's. Because of the first gas shortage.
Good thing gas stations sell food and stuff, now. High profit in that.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Credit card issuer/merchant agreements state no minimums and no charges for using credit card.

They can however--offer a "cash discount".
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Old May 26, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Depends on the state laws but here in MA its illegal to do it be it gas stations or convient corner stores. Though I have heard of some place's putting a sign up saying credit card purchases must be over $XX amount since they get charged a few for each transaction its its under that amount they lose out on some profit. With the amount of money the gas pumps put out for the credit card companies I doubt they are losing out all that much. The charging fee is a scam pure and simple, I'd call up your Attorney General or one of those Consumer Reports people your local news station has and ask them to look into it for ya.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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charging "more" for credit cards transactions is NOT illegal!

It's simple guys, ANY single place you go to and use a debit / credit card, that person has to pay a fee to their Merchant Card Service provider (the guys who lease them the machines that read your card)
That amount is a % of the 'ticket' (aka purchase) I don't care if this is a restaurant, a store, or a gas station, it's all pretty much the same.

All these gas stations are doing is offering a "cash" price so that they don't have to shell out tens of THOUSANDS to their Merchant Card Service provider. Many of these gas stations are trying SO hard to be competitive, that they've had to lower their prices to very marginal profits. If you add in the transaction charges of credit cards, suddenly they're not making much.

Remember: Gas stations are privately owned...these guys aren't raking in the money, it's the COMPANY that's killin' us (BP, Citgo, etc etc)
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Here all merchants/shops are charged a 2% fee for processing any credit card transaction by their bank/provider, some retailers are now starting to pass on the charge (4%) as a "credit card" fee on top of the retail purchase price..

Gas/Fuel prices in Australia have now hit $1.43.9 cents per litre or about $5.65AU a US gallon, or $4.70US a gallon, so your $3.10 US is cheap!!!!

BTW..The majority of Service Stations here are now owned by the oil companies...great hey!

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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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down to $2.99 last night
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Premium ?

I ran pass some gas station last night and I swear I saw 3.59 for Premium ...
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TheKDog
Gas stations have to pay some fee when customers use credit cards.

I guess this station was trying to pass on the fee.
Around here, the sign says "Same Price- Cash or Credit"

BTW, gas prices should be coming down a bit in the next week or so. Tanked up the other day and I saw what the previous driver put into his car: $82.53
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Premium ?

I ran pass some gas station last night and I swear I saw 3.59 for Premium ...
oh, right. I just woke up I was talking about regular.

I haven't been driving my rx8 due to love bugs. So been able to get away with regular gas + 30 mpg.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Down here in texas I dont think I have ever seen it where they charge more for the use of a credit card.

Here the price you see is the price you pay since all of the taxes/etc is built into that price. I can say though if I ever see a place that wants to charge me MORE just to pay them I will go somewhere else. My electric company pulled that **** on me when I tried to pay online, charging me a fee just use my mastercard. I now physically go down there and write a check because **** their fee.

I realize they are just trying to pass the cost -- but there is a thing called "the cost of doing business". My economics degree is telling me that setting up your business to accept credit cards will naturally draw in MORE customers, offsetting that small fee you have to "pay to play".

I personally never carry cash on me -- its slow, its theft prone, and I dont get any cashback rewards, everything I buy goes on my SINGLE credit card, and every 30 days I pay the balance off. Life is so easy this way.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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they are all bastards!
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Remember: Gas stations are privately owned...these guys aren't raking in the money, it's the COMPANY that's killin' us (BP, Citgo, etc etc)
Actually, it's the commodities traders and speculators that are setting the price. Oil companies do not set the price of oil, the stock markets do. It's a commodity same as corn or beef or metal. You think the farmers set the price of string beans or wheat? No. The markets do. Oil and gasoline are no different.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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In general all stores add the option to pay by credit car to gain the largest amount of consumers. Of course they hate it. My parent's former restaurant business had a minimum since it was a fixed rate but never liked credit cards. No business actually enjoys having to accept credits cards, simply, cash takes out the middle man in the transaction. And if this is a such a problem, why not pay with cash? I guess i grew up with this mentality, but I hate credit cards similarly. Identity theft vs losing 200 bucks... what is worse? I always pay for everything in cash, and I know companies appreciate it.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pussywillow1972
Actually, it's the commodities traders and speculators that are setting the price. Oil companies do not set the price of oil, the stock markets do. It's a commodity same as corn or beef or metal. You think the farmers set the price of string beans or wheat? No. The markets do. Oil and gasoline are no different.
Yes, this is true, but the oil companies control the retail price and the margins they Add on top of the "gate" price or stock price.
Their profit margins are way over any resemblance to growth.
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