Emissions cap may end car making in Europe
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Does anyone know the RENESIS's number of grams-carbon per kilometre.
around 1.0 pound per mile (according to it's epa score) which is about 280 g/km (CO2). Soon Mazda will be a part of the dead Renesis club.
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Originally Posted by PoorCollegeKid
Are you talking about the H-turbine, by any chance?
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
I have a Japan question, do they tax annually based on the liters your car or truck has? I've where a couple times that there is a base tax (for say a 1.5 liter engine) then an additional tax for every .5 liters an engine comes with.
As for the OP's article hitting reality, brillo's statement about unions is my exact thought. I think mainly a scale tax will be created, 120 emissions receive 0 tax while climbing the scale the range rover will get taxed heavily. I'd guess they'd tax the company for producing the vehicle then it'll trickle down to the base price of the car/truck. That'll lead europeans towards a cheaper purchase while allowing the high ends to still produce gas guzzling supercars (for an even more 'super' price.)
As for the OP's article hitting reality, brillo's statement about unions is my exact thought. I think mainly a scale tax will be created, 120 emissions receive 0 tax while climbing the scale the range rover will get taxed heavily. I'd guess they'd tax the company for producing the vehicle then it'll trickle down to the base price of the car/truck. That'll lead europeans towards a cheaper purchase while allowing the high ends to still produce gas guzzling supercars (for an even more 'super' price.)
You are taxed all over the place. Taxed for purchasing the car (price dependent), taxed for the size/weight, taxed for the engine displacement and taxed for purchasing fuel which has other taxes built into it. You have an annual car tax based on engine displacement class. Basically 400cc bikes are 4,000 JPY, 1.8L or 2.0L car is 39,500 JPY and I believe that 660cc micro class cars (kei cars) are also 4,000 JPY. And then you pay weight, etc. taxes again when you get inspected biannually... inaddition to mandatory basic insurance and inspection fees... if done by you at the goverment inspection/registration offices... 70,000 JPY.
Don't forget about your 15,000 - 50,000 monthly parking space in Tokyo (5,000 JPY in rural areas).
Better get voluantary insurance as well... accident costs are killer in Japan (particularly personal injury).
Isn't owning a car affordable in Japan? But every household has at least one.
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Originally Posted by Razz1
^^ Your wrong.
the 8 has and will run on hydrogen. It's not dead.
the 8 has and will run on hydrogen. It's not dead.
A no-power 3000lb car will not sell any better than it does now. And large scale adoption of H2 powered vehicles is a minimum of 50 years away.
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There is a simple solution to this along the same line as the bicycle idea, at least for the luxury makers that can afford the extra cost. I doubt a bicycle would qualify as a car for their fleet averages but, buy a BMW get a free electric golf cart, or whatever the smallest and cheapest thing that will qualify as a car is. Your fleet average hydrocarbon emmissions are instantly half what they really are. 
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From: In the hills between San Miguel and Parkfield - "up in the boonie lands", Central Coast of California, Wine Country
California's Governator must be following the European trend and announced to 'fight global warming' which has now frozen 3 billion dollars wirth of citrus, car fuels and cars must reduce carbon output by 10%.
Bicycles will not reduce global warming- motility of bicycles is carbon dependent (mostly sugars and starches) and the rider breaths out CO2 and releases methane, nitrates, and small chain hydrocarbons!
Bicycles will not reduce global warming- motility of bicycles is carbon dependent (mostly sugars and starches) and the rider breaths out CO2 and releases methane, nitrates, and small chain hydrocarbons!
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