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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 03:50 AM
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Concept GTO

What do you guys think about this GTO? Personally if it were available now, I would trade in my RX-8 for it. (I would get a black one...)

http://autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101120
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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How about just putting that engine in the RX-8. The GTO's exterior design is a little soft on detail compared to the RX-8, but that engine would be nice.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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Not normally the repost police but this is WAY old. Check the article date:

Published Date: 11/8/04

I also know I've seen it long before that that. I also recall reading that there's no possibility of it hitting production.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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Yeah way old, one off concept.... no chance of ever getting the bodykit or engine. I would trade in my RX8 in a second for that car.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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yes, this is old news.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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old news or not, its quite the porker.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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You could still make a body kit that looks like this GTO on an 05. Wonder how much that would cost?
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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reminds me of the lingenfelter twin-turbo GTO, basicaly the same kit off the vette. 900hp or something crazy.

the glass in the paintjob sounds cool. but the nearly 4k lbs of car isnt too appealing.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Still a Pontiac...
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by QBallz
Still a Pontiac...
If it is a great car why does it matter? If this GTO was made by a company called, 'Shitty Cars' I would still buy it.

Just de-badge it if you are that picky....

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by QBallz
Still a Pontiac...
so is your mom
:D
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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You could still make a body kit that looks like this GTO on an 05. Wonder how much that would cost?
More than the car itself.

A Fender Flare kit alone for the GTO costs anywhere from $10-$16,000 installed depending which company you go with. And those are just kits that go over the existing body panels (after trimming the existing sheetmetal to allow for wider tires).

The Woodward kit (what the above GTO is called) replaces every bodypanel on the car with the exception of the roof and the trunk. Initial estimates that some guys got for production of the kit were extraordinarly high and even those were dependent on a sales number that never would happen -- there's just not enough guys doing serious aesthetic-mods to their GTOs. They're engine modding guys.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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600 hp and 4.5 0-60? Atkins? Jenny Craig?
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Here's something more, ahem, recent -

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102907

IMO, this concept is a little too sharp around the edges, but hopefully it'll be lighter and maybe more powerful. It's no F-Body though.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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F that man, if I want a straight line car, MAYBE. But put that 4000lb thing into a corner fast and your asking for trouble. LOL Dont like the looks and I'm more into turning, not straight line.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulieWalnuts
600 hp and 4.5 0-60? Atkins? Jenny Craig?
lol, exactly!
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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F that man, if I want a straight line car, MAYBE. But put that 4000lb thing into a corner fast and your asking for trouble. LOL Dont like the looks and I'm more into turning, not straight line.
The GTO ain't that bad on the track. Hell, in some tests it's skidpad tested right up there with the RX-8 and the Top Gear guys thought it was one of the funnest cars to toss around on their track that they'd ever driven. There's a number of GTO owners that road race very competitively against E46 M3s and the like. Upgrade the sways, the bushings, install a camber kit, a Big Brake Kit and some better shocks and the car handles extremely well. It's still heavy, but weight is easy to trim too -- you can shave a couple hundred pounds in just a few minutes by removing the spare, the skidplate, and a few other various items.

All those mods cost a tiny fraction of RX-8 mods BTW -- a 14" Baer Big Brake Kit is $800 compared to about $2000+ for ours. We can barely buy rotors for the price of the entire brake kit. A full suspension kit with all the above items, including coilovers, is only $1500.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Weight is a concern, but if you have enough power, who gives a **** about how much it weighs? Look at the Ford GT500. Nearly 4000 lbs, but its 450+ hp is more than enough to probably give it a low 12-second timeslip.

Oh yeah, don't forget about that drift GTO driven by Rhys (or is it Rod) Millen. Screech!
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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The GTO is still a pile made by the king of piles GM, where quality is last and pushrods are first.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Sigma
The GTO ain't that bad on the track. Hell, in some tests it's skidpad tested right up there with the RX-8 and the Top Gear guys thought it was one of the funnest cars to toss around on their track that they'd ever driven. There's a number of GTO owners that road race very competitively against E46 M3s and the like. Upgrade the sways, the bushings, install a camber kit, a Big Brake Kit and some better shocks and the car handles extremely well. It's still heavy, but weight is easy to trim too -- you can shave a couple hundred pounds in just a few minutes by removing the spare, the skidplate, and a few other various items.

All those mods cost a tiny fraction of RX-8 mods BTW -- a 14" Baer Big Brake Kit is $800 compared to about $2000+ for ours. We can barely buy rotors for the price of the entire brake kit. A full suspension kit with all the above items, including coilovers, is only $1500.
I've test driven one, so dont tell me. That car feels like a pig in the corners. Its a muscle car, its made to go straight and thats it!
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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A pig, that is a little harsh.....more like a boat.
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Baller
A pig, that is a little harsh.....more like a boat.
LOL Maybe your right............. :D
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Old Aug 3, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Making fun of GM products is just too easy, remember the Camaro and Firebird are no longer made for a good reason.......piles. The new Corvette still has a pusrod engine and you have to wear gold chains around your neck to own one. Perhaps one day before we die GM will build a great car, I can't see it but just maybe if Porsche buys them out........
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Baller
Making fun of GM products is just too easy, remember the Camaro and Firebird are no longer made for a good reason.......piles. The new Corvette still has a pusrod engine and you have to wear gold chains around your neck to own one. Perhaps one day before we die GM will build a great car, I can't see it but just maybe if Porsche buys them out........

It's a pushrod engine that performs fabulously. The sophistication argument is retarded. I don't care how sophisticated an engine is, if it can pump out those numbers while still getting respectable gas mileage. The F-bodies were hardly 'piles.' If a 5th gen were for sale today, they'd sell very well (the 350Z sells like hotcakes, and it's simply a lower performance, Nissan built clone of the F-body, imo). It was just a matter of **** poor timing on GM's part. High powered, medium cost sports cars simply were not selling that well in the late 90's early 00's. There's the reason Supras, FD's, 300z's, 3000GTs, were cancelled also. Only the Mustang survived.
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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Baller
Making fun of GM products is just too easy, remember the Camaro and Firebird are no longer made for a good reason.......piles. The new Corvette still has a pusrod engine and you have to wear gold chains around your neck to own one. Perhaps one day before we die GM will build a great car, I can't see it but just maybe if Porsche buys them out........
that whole argument is retarded.
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