Cobalt SS: RSX killer?
01-02-2005, 02:49 AM
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Cobalt SS: RSX killer?
From this month's M/T:
Cobalt SS
0-60: 6 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.5@98 mph
60-0: 115 ft
Skidpad: .89g
Slalom: 69.0 mph (fastest time they've ever tested for a FWD car)
Not exactly a fair comparison, since it's a different mag, but here are the new/updated 05 RSX-S numbers from C&D last month:
0-60: 6.2 sec
0-100: 16.6 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.9 sec
1/4-mile: 14.9 sec @ 95 mph
Top speed: 136 mph
70-0: 181 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.86 g
Cobalt SS
0-60: 6 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.5@98 mph
60-0: 115 ft
Skidpad: .89g
Slalom: 69.0 mph (fastest time they've ever tested for a FWD car)
Not exactly a fair comparison, since it's a different mag, but here are the new/updated 05 RSX-S numbers from C&D last month:
0-60: 6.2 sec
0-100: 16.6 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.9 sec
1/4-mile: 14.9 sec @ 95 mph
Top speed: 136 mph
70-0: 181 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.86 g
01-02-2005, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RX8-79
From this month's M/T:
Skidpad: .89g
Slalom: 69.0 mph (fastest time they've ever tested for a FWD car)
Skidpad: .89g
Slalom: 69.0 mph (fastest time they've ever tested for a FWD car)
By the way, I remember the Mazdaspeed Protege/MP3 being tested by various mags and got anywhere from 70-72 mph in the slalom test.
01-02-2005, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by shaolin
Except for this part of course...
By the way, I remember the Mazdaspeed Protege/MP3 being tested by various mags and got anywhere from 70-72 mph in the slalom test.
By the way, I remember the Mazdaspeed Protege/MP3 being tested by various mags and got anywhere from 70-72 mph in the slalom test.
01-02-2005, 11:48 AM
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yes the coblot ss is supercharged...but it isn't too shabby for a fwd chevy replacement for the cavileir ( i never did like that car IMO). but i think i would skip this and rather just get a used wrx:D more of a fun factor
01-02-2005, 12:11 PM
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Chevy cobolt, ion redline, neon srt4, rsx type S.... seems like FWD "sports cars" are getting popular.
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01-02-2005, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nojooc
That's an oxymoron in itself.
01-02-2005, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Audioslave8
Chevy cobolt, ion redline, neon srt4, rsx type S.... seems like FWD "sports cars" are getting popular.
I hope Mazda and Nissan can up the ante on their compact cars. The Mazdaspeed Protege was a real kick, and it offered almost everything for a reasonable price. The Sentra SE-R, on the other hand, left a lot to be desired. I hope these companies, and Toyota, will come back hard with improved sport compacts. No, don't bring the Corolla T-Sport here. That car is awful.
01-02-2005, 11:52 PM
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I think there have been some pretty high performing FWD cars sold in the JDM over the years. I know the Mitsubishi FTO and Honda Integra (yes I said Honda...lol) were pretty well regarded for a while before production was ceased. There will always be purists knocking FWD...but look no further than what Alfa Romeo is doing to the BMW's in European racing right now to see what a well balanced FWD platform can do.
01-02-2005, 11:54 PM
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The Cobalt may very well be a tad better performer, but with the Acura you get two big bonuses:
A) You won't see your car being used as a rental;
B) You won't have to live with a car that has workmanship on par with the toys in the discount bin at Kmart.
A) You won't see your car being used as a rental;
B) You won't have to live with a car that has workmanship on par with the toys in the discount bin at Kmart.
01-02-2005, 11:55 PM
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The ITR seems to be the weapon of choice in all sorts of racing, from circuit to Pikes Peak. Take a look at RealTime Racing's old DC2. That car was raping the competition with a sandpaper condom.
Aren't we supposed to be talking about the Cobalt SS? :p
Isn't that car built on a similar platform to the ION Redline? Despite what anyone says, supercharged FWD cars are the shiz.
Aren't we supposed to be talking about the Cobalt SS? :p
Isn't that car built on a similar platform to the ION Redline? Despite what anyone says, supercharged FWD cars are the shiz.
01-03-2005, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
You need to drive an ITR and you will change your tune, they are damn impressive little cars on a track and probably more pure sportscar than my or your car.
As fun and entertaining as it was to drive, not having the rear wheels do anything was kinda dull.
01-03-2005, 09:27 AM
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Another idea for a thred title
Cobalt SS: RX-8 Killer!! (without questions marks)
If the mag numbers are close to accurate....wow! Now I want to watch it run Laguna for comparisson....
Cobalt SS: RX-8 Killer!! (without questions marks)
If the mag numbers are close to accurate....wow! Now I want to watch it run Laguna for comparisson....
01-03-2005, 03:05 PM
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Doesn't the RSX type s have an open differential? and all season tires
So get either a torque sensitive differential, or speed sensitive and seasonal tires and that would give parity.
The saturn red line/ cobalt ss has a quaife.
So get either a torque sensitive differential, or speed sensitive and seasonal tires and that would give parity.
The saturn red line/ cobalt ss has a quaife.
01-03-2005, 09:50 PM
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Yup. We in the U.S. don't get the luxury of a DC5 ITR, so we don't get the helical LSD. I'm sure Honda opted for all-season tires so its customers didn't have to repeatedly go back to get new tires. Trust me, those things start adding up after a while.
As for marking a comparison between the Cobalt SS and the RX-8, it doesn't really matter, because in the real world, it all comes down to who has whiter knuckles.
As for marking a comparison between the Cobalt SS and the RX-8, it doesn't really matter, because in the real world, it all comes down to who has whiter knuckles.