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Old 10-24-2005, 10:58 AM
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Clip of last years WRC

I saw a clip of last years WRC on the speed channel during the weekend. And I finally saw real life proof(on TV) why mitsubishi makes a not so reliable car. During one of the time trials in Japan, The car ran into many problems causing to go way down on the time trial rankings. Within 5 seconds into the course, the car immediately experiences electrical problems. Later within that same course, Rock hit the back left suspension. Anyways I stopped watching and went drinking, so I didn't see how much Mitsubishi faired. But from what I remember Subaru and Pegout(don't know how its spelled) was in the top 5 rankings.

What I didn't know before is that, its takes lots of concentration to do these races. Now I do. Funny thing I saw is that the lead Subaru driver races with his mouth open. The faster he goes, the bigger his mouth opens up.

The other drivers just keeps their eyes wide open and never blink.
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Here you can find great Rally videos (from SpeedTV)

http://www.rallyalbum.hu/video.htm

Enjoy!
Old 10-24-2005, 03:30 PM
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Nice videos. A real eye catcher. I just LUV WRC. Let's see Jeff Gordon drive on those courses
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Originally Posted by Y&Y
And I finally saw real life proof(on TV) why mitsubishi makes a not so reliable car. During one of the time trials in Japan, The car ran into many problems causing to go way down on the time trial rankings. Within 5 seconds into the course, the car immediately experiences electrical problems. Later within that same course, Rock hit the back left suspension.
This year, Ferrari lost the F1 constructors championship. Logically it follows that Ferrari's street offerings are slower than renault and mercedes offerings. Right?
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RIP, Michael Park.
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RIP, Michael Park.
Yes I forgot to mention that. RIP "Beef"

This year, Ferrari lost the F1 constructors championship. Logically it follows that Ferrari's street offerings are slower than renault and mercedes offerings. Right?
Look thats not what I meant. I've never liked mitsubishi other than the 3000GT. I've seen some of the WRC's where Mitsubishi has won. But what I'm pointing at is that, mitsubishi's are cheap POS and they didn't put as much effort and money in keeping it running correctly as did the other competitors. And yes I'm sure whomever decided to show WRC races on Speed channel are probably biased and will show only certain cars having problems.

And your post comes off to me as you're looking for an arguement. I have friends who used to own them. They all say the same crap. The car is total piece of crap.

For some reason you remind me of the old guy in Youpey's post.
https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/what-tool-75175/

And also I know for a fact that mitsubishi's leading driver left to go drive for Ford, for more money of course.
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Originally Posted by Y&Y
Look thats not what I meant. I've never liked mitsubishi other than the 3000GT. I've seen some of the WRC's where Mitsubishi has won. But what I'm pointing at is that, mitsubishi's are cheap POS and they didn't put as much effort and money in keeping it running correctly as did the other competitors. And yes I'm sure whomever decided to show WRC races on Speed channel are probably biased and will show only certain cars having problems.

And your post comes off to me as you're looking for an arguement. I have friends who used to own them. They all say the same crap. The car is total piece of crap.

For some reason you remind me of the old guy in Youpey's post.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=75175

And also I know for a fact that mitsubishi's leading driver left to go drive for Ford, for more money of course.
Besides the fact I think the story, and guy, in that post is completely fabricated to gain attention, I'm a good 20 years away from my midlife crisis.

You, however, sound a lot like an ignorant teenager.
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Mitsubishi has as much, if not more, success than any other car company in WRC with multiple driver's championships and manufacturer's championships. Ever heard of Tommy Makinen? The reality of that type of racing is that things will inevitably break. However in a field of 24 Rovanpera's Mistubishi is currently 6th, Galli's is 11th and Panizzi's is 15th. Only Citroen has more cars in the top 15.

Mitsubishi doesn't make crappy cars either. Initial quality and reliability are right at the industry standard. That's the sad thing about them. They just aren't selling cars in the US because their product line is bland and boring. Anyways I'm just not seeing the correlation between a 500hp WRC machine and your neighbors Montero SUV. How does Pon's Mitsubishi tossing an oil pump at 7600 PRM's on a 12% grade make Mistubishi an "unreliable" car company. Companies like Nissan, Toyota, BMW, Honda, Dodge, Hyundai, Audi or VW didn't even participate in WRC this year. Does that mean they couldn't build a competitive WRC car? Probably not. But if WRC is your standard how do companies that did not even participate escape your criticism.

BTW...watch more than 15 minutes of WRC before posting "expert" analysis.
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Mitsubishi has as much, if not more, success than any other car company in WRC with multiple driver's championships and manufacturer's championships. Ever heard of Tommy Makinen? The reality of that type of racing is that things will inevitably break. However in a field of 24 Rovanpera's Mistubishi is currently 6th, Galli's is 11th and Panizzi's is 15th. Only Citroen has more cars in the top 15.

Mitsubishi doesn't make crappy cars either. Initial quality and reliability are right at the industry standard. That's the sad thing about them. They just aren't selling cars in the US because their product line is bland and boring. Anyways I'm just not seeing the correlation between a 500hp WRC machine and your neighbors Montero SUV. How does Pon's Mitsubishi tossing an oil pump at 7600 PRM's on a 12% grade make Mistubishi an "unreliable" car company. Companies like Nissan, Toyota, BMW, Honda, Dodge, Hyundai, Audi or VW didn't even participate in WRC this year. Does that mean they couldn't build a competitive WRC car? Probably not. But if WRC is your standard how do companies that did not even participate escape your criticism.

BTW...watch more than 15 minutes of WRC before posting "expert" analysis.
You have no idea what you're talking about, a Mitsubishi broke down in a WRC race, therefore all Mitsubishi's are pieces of ****!

I give this post 9 out of 10 fruits
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lol. Mitsu has some problems with their WRC cars recently. The qaulities of their drivers are just not good enough to compete with Petersolberg from Subaru, Loeb from Cetron, and Thomas Grounhoug from Puegeot. for some unknown reasons, mitsu's cars suck in this season. they used to be very well build, but this season is different.

GO PETERSOLBERG. my favourtie driver.
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My wife just blew a tire on her SUV. It was a Michelin. It's now abundantly clear that Michelin is incapable of building a reliable tire.
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Originally Posted by Steiner
My wife just blew a tire on her SUV.

I think your wife might be cheating on you with michelin
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^^^ I hope she didn't come home and kiss you after that!
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Damn that fruity French bastard named Michelin. He's dead if I find him.
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Mitsubishi has as much, if not more, success than any other car company in WRC with multiple driver's championships and manufacturer's championships. Ever heard of Tommy Makinen? The reality of that type of racing is that things will inevitably break. However in a field of 24 Rovanpera's Mistubishi is currently 6th, Galli's is 11th and Panizzi's is 15th. Only Citroen has more cars in the top 15.

Mitsubishi doesn't make crappy cars either. Initial quality and reliability are right at the industry standard. That's the sad thing about them. They just aren't selling cars in the US because their product line is bland and boring. Anyways I'm just not seeing the correlation between a 500hp WRC machine and your neighbors Montero SUV. How does Pon's Mitsubishi tossing an oil pump at 7600 PRM's on a 12% grade make Mistubishi an "unreliable" car company. Companies like Nissan, Toyota, BMW, Honda, Dodge, Hyundai, Audi or VW didn't even participate in WRC this year. Does that mean they couldn't build a competitive WRC car? Probably not. But if WRC is your standard how do companies that did not even participate escape your criticism.

BTW...watch more than 15 minutes of WRC before posting "expert" analysis.
Ok first off, I've never said I was an "expert" so go sit on a picket fence and spin yourself.

And second of all, check this website out and scroll down until you get to the horizontal bar graph. http://www.cartest.ca/most_reliable_vehicles.htm Look where mistubishi is compared to your industry standard.

And I've read through the site, so I do know that they are talking about 2002 models and how they faired in the last three years.

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And how is that related to WRC again?
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yeah, Steiner!! Mitsubishi is just slightly worse than Mazda. So, go sit on a picket fence and spin yourself.

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I'm posting from a picket fence...fack ouch...still not understanding how any of this is connected to Mitsubishi's woefull US sales though? I'm not arguing that Mitsubishi NA isn't in the pooper. I'm just trying to figure out how a racing accident in a one-off WRC car is connected to initial reliability, 3 year cost of ownership or any of the other millions of statistics car magazines use to measure a car company. Blaming Mitsu for the WRC Evo throwing a connecting rod is like cursing Thomas Edison because your flashlight ran out of batteries.
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I'm just as confused as you.
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