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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Bye Bye, Neon.

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The long goodbye: Neon fades from view

The small car never lived up to lofty goals of topping Japanese rivals; Dodge sport wagon takes its place.

By Brett Clanton / The Detroit News
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The Dodge Caliber sport wagon will replace the Neon next year.

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Hailed a decade ago as Detroit's best shot at beating the Japanese at their own game, the Dodge Neon will quietly go out of production this week, remembered mostly as a little car with big expectations that couldn't deliver on them.

Famously introduced with a simple "Hi" in a 1994 ad campaign, Neon is saying goodbye at a time when the small car segment is becoming more competitive, forcing automakers to rethink the way they reach entry-level car buyers.

DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group will replace the Neon early next year with the Dodge Caliber sport wagon, a vehicle that is more in line with a shift to bigger, more versatile vehicles in the small car market.

Neon's exit from the market is renewing questions about whether Detroit automakers can make a profit building small cars -- an achievement that's especially pressing now that the Big Three are seeing SUV sales weaken and are counting on other vehicles to make up for the lost revenue.

Detroit has produced small car hits such as the Ford Escort and Chevrolet Cavalier, but the Neon is a good example of how the Big Three's focus on trucks and SUVs worked to their detriment in other market segments.

"It was a friendly little car. But it never really had the specs to wow anybody," said Peter Dixon, senior partner at Lippincott Mercer, a brand consulting firm in New York.

That wasn't the case when the Neon first came out.

Few vehicles from Detroit have enjoyed the promotion and praise that attended the arrival of the Neon in February 1994. In cover stories at the time, the Wall Street Journal and BusinessWeek magazine called the Neon the first legitimate U.S. contender in years to the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla. A likeable ad campaign, showing a white Neon facing into the camera and saying "Hi," also endeared the car to thousands of American families.

But all the exposure may have created unrealistic expectations for the car, said Tom Libby, an analyst with J.D. Power and Associates' Power Information Network.

"If they had had a history of being strong in that segment, I think it would have been easier. But they didn't."

With Neon, Chrysler carried the hope of the U.S. auto industry that Detroit could win back ground lost to Asian rivals. Chrysler even developed right-hand drive versions for Japan, prompting fear in the Japanese press that Neon would be a "Japan car killer."

But neither happened. "That may have been idealistic thinking," Libby said.

The Neon, initially sold under the Dodge and Plymouth brands before Plymouth was phased out in 2001, replaced the Dodge Shadow and Plymouth Sundance. It did well early on -- posting sales of 240,000 in its first full year on the market -- despite three embarrassing recalls shortly after its introduction.

"I didn't expect it to be perfect," said Greg Croft, 30, an information systems analyst in Frazier who bought a first generation Neon that was recalled for a leaky head gasket. "It was a $13,000 car."

Pitched as an economy car with better standard safety features and a bigger engine than competitors, Neon sales peaked at 245,000 in 1996 but have been on the decline since.

The car's image also has suffered along the way. Once seen as sprightly and cute, the Neon grew to be viewed as cartoonish and ultimately uncool -- an idea that wasn't helped by its prevalence in rental car fleets.

The baggage around the Neon name became so bad that in 2003, when Chrysler debuted a high-performance SRT-4 version of the car, it dropped the Neon name altogether in promotions.

"What I'll say about Neon is that we didn't really follow the trends in that segment very well," said Joe Eberhardt, Chrysler's executive vice president of marketing. While other automakers were improving interiors and increasing the size of their small cars, the Neon hardly grew from its original design, he said.

"Honestly, we've not focused on (the small car) segment of the market as much as we did trucks and SUVs," he acknowledged.

Chrysler is banking on bigger things with the Dodge Caliber. The small wagon, which is similar in size to the Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix, fits in with a trend toward larger and better-equipped vehicles in the small car category. It will feature a highly flexible interior and a family of peppy and fuel-efficient engine options and will be built at a factory in Belvidere, Ill., which is undergoing a $419 million renovation this fall so that the Caliber will be available by early spring.

The Neon will have its swan song at the Belvidere plant on Friday, when the last model is scheduled to roll off the line.

It will be an emotional day for Kelly Brookhart, 23, of Ridge, Md., who has a 1999 Neon and feels a connection with other Neon owners.

"The people who own Neons are like a family," she said. "They have something about them that makes them special." It's kind of a loveable underdog mentality that attracts a certain breed of buyer, she said.

But just because the car is going away, that doesn't mean its following among enthusiasts will fade.

"Those that are loyal still will be loyal," said Tim Kish, 31, who owns three Dodge Neons, including a spruced-up show car and a modified drag racer. He said Neon's exit could make his collection more valuable, but it may take a while to get past the idea of there being no Neon on the market.

"It will be a hurt to us," said Kish, speaking for the Neon enthusiast crowd. "But I'll move on. I'll try to accept it."
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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thank god
I have never been a fan of them
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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srt-4 is gone as well?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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srt-4 is gone as well?
Yes, I read somewhere it will also be axed.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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wow...looks like a miniature truck....
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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They just got the thing competitive in its price range and now they axe it? Nice move !
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:52 PM
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I don't know how they ever thought the neon was going to overcome the japanese. It was released with a 3 speed transmission! A couple friends in high school used to have the first gen ones. They'd get annoyed when i sat in the passenger seat and proceeded to disassemble thier car, starting with the removal of all the vents in the dash, which snap right out.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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looks liek they tried to mate a pontiac vibe with the magnum/charger look....

very scary
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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doesn't really look like a car, looks like they've given up on the neon's segment. bad move i think
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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I agree, bad move DC. This new "replacement" of the neon doesn't even seem to be in a similar class, but what do I know? I predict the neon will return with new clothes and perhaps a new name in 3-4 years.

Edit: It needs to be known that Lufty has come out of his hole in the lounge to post more than once in a day in other parts of the website. :p
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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It looks like the bastard child of a Ford Focus and a Dodge Magnum LOL
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Feh, why buy a car when you can have a TRUCK!!! SWEET!

Trucks for everyone!

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhawb
Feh, why buy a car when you can have a TRUCK!!! SWEET!

Trucks for everyone!

I like some trucks, this however, is not appealing to me in any way.

Edit: I shouldn't say that it doesn't appeal to me all. I like the new "world engine" as they call it. Sounds like some neat technology. The looks though, eh, just not really appealing. I guess I'll have to see more pictures though.

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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What ever happened to the Dodge Razor concept? I still think that car would still be a hit. I read about it a couple of years ago and it was suppose to be priced for 15-18K.

Wait, found it.

http://www.allpar.com/model/concepts/dodge-razor.html
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Poor little Neon...it did not fail, DC failed it and now they are going to kill it off. They admitted they did not pay attention to it and then say they need something new....HELLO, you just need to do it right the first time and not replace it with a WAGON...I don't care what they are calling it now a days...it's a dang WAGON!!!

Let's see...4 door car because a 5 door WAGON, how is that going to fix their problems?

The only thing I can see is that the replacement will have better quality but getting rid of the SRT-4 is a BAD move. Now their owners will feel like DC let them down...they got teased and then rejected. Next time...why would they even try another DC product in this segment?

Bad move indeed!

Sorry for all the bolds...while a very few wagons look nice...they are just not my cup of tea.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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this is not the end of the SRT4. While I admit that this replacement should be in the mini-truck catagory, many thought the boxy scions were fugly and there selling very well.

I talked to a dodge dealer owner and he said there would be another srt. The biggest issue I had with neons is 3 years down the road and their worthless. How many of us have seen tons of 3 and 4 year old neons in the want ads going for a fraction of the new price. It was a joke of a car, and not very well built. Maybe dodge will make them with more quality and hopefully they put the srt in on a different body then this one...

It would really be a shame if we all look back at the troublesome neons as the pinnacle of dodge's small car performance memories...
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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i like the neon, we have one at home, 178k miles and still running good, though the 3 speed automatic is starting to act up now :o
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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say bye to neon? http://www.ag.auburn.edu/users/gparmer/articles/neon/
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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How can they go from a econobox to a Matrix-looking thingy? This is worse than deriving the Navier-Stokes equations.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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It's a happy day!

neons are dead!
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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I have no special feelings against Neon. but I guess their marketing department did something wrong.

It could've been a good one, but they just made it so bad that when people think of Neon, it will somehow connected to the word "cheap"

oh well, fair thee well.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Smoke Honda
What ever happened to the Dodge Razor concept? I still think that car would still be a hit. I read about it a couple of years ago and it was suppose to be priced for 15-18K.

Wait, found it.

http://www.allpar.com/model/concepts/dodge-razor.html

I imagine that if the Solstice/Sky sell well, the Razor will come back into the picture.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Yeah...that would be great, more competition....we are living in fun times!
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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ooops!

buddy of mine JUST picked up an SRT-4!

Just as I was starting to give them a little bit of respect. (that SRT-4 looks like crap but is pretty quick)
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