Automobile Magazine Automobile of the Year awards
12-08-2005, 12:38 PM
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Automobile Magazine Automobile of the Year awards
well, this is not as prestigious as the motortrend award
but, here it is
http://automobilemag.com/news/2006_a...e_of_the_year/
I love the pick,
other things to note
1) EVO made the all star list, Sti didnt
2) M45 and civic didnt make All Star
but, here it is
http://automobilemag.com/news/2006_a...e_of_the_year/
I love the pick,
other things to note
1) EVO made the all star list, Sti didnt
2) M45 and civic didnt make All Star
12-08-2005, 02:51 PM
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Well, they're not going to choose the STI and the Evo, they will pick one or the other... Also seems odd that the Mini made the list, it's kinda old news at this point and they have been a reliability nightmare.
12-08-2005, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Before I open the link, I want to say. Unless Mazda gets an award, this whole thing is a crock of ****!
12-08-2005, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Also seems odd that the Mini made the list, it's kinda old news at this point and they have been a reliability nightmare.
12-08-2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by map
That was my first reaction too. Maybe they printed the list from 3 years ago by accident?
12-08-2005, 09:08 PM
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I wonder how much money BMW spent on advertising in Automobile last year. Engine of the year, automobile of the year, and 2 cars on the allstars list.
12-09-2005, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
I wonder how much money BMW spent on advertising in Automobile last year. Engine of the year, automobile of the year, and 2 cars on the allstars list.
12-10-2005, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
The brand frickin' new Honda Civic made car of the year in Motortrend. The car has barely existed this year.
12-10-2005, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by map
And yet they are all over the road
12-10-2005, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JRichter
BMW wins awards all over the world and most comparison tests in most magazines and it's 3 series has been referred to as a benchmark in its class so I guess that makes it a good car that with its reputation, doesn't even have to advertise.
I agree for the most part and O was pretty shocked when the 3 series didn't make the C&D 10 best. However, the mini being on that list is a farce.
12-10-2005, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
even if this was true (and it isn't in my area either), how does that make it car of the year?
I will say they aren't as ugly in person. Side view almost looks good. But the front view and interior are hideous.
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12-10-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by map
You were complaining they've barely been out, and therefore how could they be car of the year. Well i see one about every other day. Far more than i see of the new mx5 or even any 8s. They have been selling extremely well, and i assume they are very good cars, so it's not any big surprise to me they won an award. I'm not saying it's what i would have chose, but it's not an outlandish choice.
I will say they aren't as ugly in person. Side view almost looks good. But the front view and interior are hideous.
I will say they aren't as ugly in person. Side view almost looks good. But the front view and interior are hideous.
12-11-2005, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
I just think it's ridiculous to give a car of the YEAR award to a car that hasn't been out that long but whatever
12-11-2005, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
It's an award that only new or redesigned cars qualify for... Not so ridiculous now huh?
12-11-2005, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
Sorry, still ridiculous.... I understand they aren't considering cars that haven't had a redesign in 5 yrs, that's obvious. But the Civic, please.... it just hit showrooms recently
12-11-2005, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Do you whine like this when a movie that came out in December wins an academy award as well? I don't see how what time of the year a car is released should have anything to do with whether or not it wins awards. Your argument is a weak one.
Awards for the new Civic.... fine. But car of the YEAR seems a bit far fetched and maybe even a little forced if you will. I think there should be a minimum amount of time that a car has been "out there" before it can be considered for that year. I stand by my feelings on this one whether or not you agree.
12-11-2005, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
Do you troll like this on every car forum? You're comparing a movie winning awards to a car winning awards.... too perfectly similiar mediums.
Awards for the new Civic.... fine. But car of the YEAR seems a bit far fetched and maybe even a little forced if you will. I think there should be a minimum amount of time that a car has been "out there" before it can be considered for that year. I stand by my feelings on this one whether or not you agree.
Awards for the new Civic.... fine. But car of the YEAR seems a bit far fetched and maybe even a little forced if you will. I think there should be a minimum amount of time that a car has been "out there" before it can be considered for that year. I stand by my feelings on this one whether or not you agree.
The mediums don't need to be similar in order for it to be a good comparison. The award for best picture is essentially a movie of the year award and I see no reason why how long a movie or a car has been out should have an impact on how good it is or how award worthy it is. Give me one good reason why it would matter what time of year a car that wins a car of the year award is released.
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12-11-2005, 03:32 PM
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Just as a note to all the whiners out there....
The Motor Trend award is the 2006 Car of the Year.
Not the 2005 Car of the Year, so I don't see what relevance how long the car has been sold during 2005 has. The cars are judged at the same time in the same place, so it doesn't matter how long they've been on the road. That is not part of MT's criteria, and last I checked it was their magazine to run as they see fit.
The Motor Trend award is the 2006 Car of the Year.
Not the 2005 Car of the Year, so I don't see what relevance how long the car has been sold during 2005 has. The cars are judged at the same time in the same place, so it doesn't matter how long they've been on the road. That is not part of MT's criteria, and last I checked it was their magazine to run as they see fit.
12-11-2005, 06:44 PM
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Ok let me preface this whole thing with the fact that this is all my opinion on how it should be run (the editors as Motortrend can do whatever the F they want), that being said..
A car that the staff has already reviewed a significant time period back in the year is at an automatic disadvantage because they've had time to learn any negative quirks of a new model that don't always crop up immediately. Many of these cars in the test have surely been admitted to the long term test fleet but i'm positive none of these editors communicate with eachother. Public reception has had time to develop and become a signifcant factor as well. These things can have an undeniable influence whether or not you or the editors at Mototrend want to admit it. Nobody can force auto mfgs to release all new cars together just for the sake of some award but at least put a cap on the time period a car has to have been released to be a little more fair to the rest of 'em.
You can't force your opinion. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Enough said.
A car that the staff has already reviewed a significant time period back in the year is at an automatic disadvantage because they've had time to learn any negative quirks of a new model that don't always crop up immediately. Many of these cars in the test have surely been admitted to the long term test fleet but i'm positive none of these editors communicate with eachother. Public reception has had time to develop and become a signifcant factor as well. These things can have an undeniable influence whether or not you or the editors at Mototrend want to admit it. Nobody can force auto mfgs to release all new cars together just for the sake of some award but at least put a cap on the time period a car has to have been released to be a little more fair to the rest of 'em.
You can't force your opinion. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Enough said.
12-11-2005, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
Ok let me preface this whole thing with the fact that this is all my opinion on how it should be run (the editors as Motortrend can do whatever the F they want), that being said..
A car that the staff has already reviewed a significant time period back in the year is at an automatic disadvantage because they've had time to learn any negative quirks of a new model that don't always crop up immediately. Many of these cars in the test have surely been admitted to the long term test fleet but i'm positive none of these editors communicate with eachother. Public reception has had time to develop and become a signifcant factor as well. These things can have an undeniable influence whether or not you or the editors at Mototrend want to admit it. Nobody can force auto mfgs to release all new cars together just for the sake of some award but at least put a cap on the time period a car has to have been released to be a little more fair to the rest of 'em.
You can't force your opinion. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Enough said.
A car that the staff has already reviewed a significant time period back in the year is at an automatic disadvantage because they've had time to learn any negative quirks of a new model that don't always crop up immediately. Many of these cars in the test have surely been admitted to the long term test fleet but i'm positive none of these editors communicate with eachother. Public reception has had time to develop and become a signifcant factor as well. These things can have an undeniable influence whether or not you or the editors at Mototrend want to admit it. Nobody can force auto mfgs to release all new cars together just for the sake of some award but at least put a cap on the time period a car has to have been released to be a little more fair to the rest of 'em.
You can't force your opinion. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Enough said.