Any way to mount in fwd -12b/13b/MSB???
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I have a 1967 Austin 1100 4dr that I bought originally to put a badass motor in - ie:wankel. Problem is it is a few inches wider than a mini and fwd. I started my project and during teardown I bought a RX-8 and have spent my time with that for the past couple months. Now back to the old car. I have contacted Kennedy Engineering for some well needed info and product advice but I was wondering if anyone here had any additionnal information to help me out.
I would really like for it to remain a fwd vehicle. I have the engine bay totally empty, front subframe out. Now I'm hoping for some info (hope this can be done) or I'm just going to put in a or 1.6l prince or v-tec = last result. The car: Attachment 261622 Attachment 261623 A wankel in a honda-------:smoker: -----it has been done. http://www.rx7club.com/attachment.ph...6&d=1145148370 also posted at http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.ph...97#post9955097 |
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You just need the rigth transaxle. Kennedy should be able to hook you up. Of course MazMart might have like a kudzu transaxle you could use
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He has it mounted to a kseries transmission. I wonder if it's 5 or 6 speed. That car is badass and this super mega fab work creation is a bit more than I am looking at. I don't think I am looking into turbo.
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not kudzu vines hooked up to a honda paul! lol
kudzu http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/ot...93610118wa.jpg I'm thinking I can make this happen. |
ya but it was funny :)
gl! |
For rear engine, rear wheel drive set-ups the Renault UN5 transmission is a good swap. So it can definitely be done up front :)
You should PM PhillipM, he will probably be able to hook you up and possibly even help with the bellhousing. |
I don't know how available the Renault UN5 transmission is?
My mother drives a Renault Euro Clio and the parts are very hard to find. |
Mazda did it in the late 60s early 70s on the Luce R130 rotary coupe(the most beautiful Mazda car ever), the configuration they used was a longitudinal mounted engine:ylsuper: instead of the old boring transverse one. Parts are hard to come by but they do come by once in a while, check Japanese auction sites and you might get lucky.
Here's a pic of the R130 engine/transmission. http://www.mazda.gr/rotary_history/r.../n-photo05.jpg |
by the way, you will have more luck if you search under mazda M13P in the Japanese or Australian sites.
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Whilst a flipped UN5 would be the strongest option I think it's overkill for your application - and I'm not sure if the bonnet would be long enough to mount in longitudinally? I can get the measurement from the diff centre to the end of the engine if you like.
Personally I'd stick it on a Peugeot BE gearbox, easy to adapt, but I think they'd be a right pain to find over there. |
Originally Posted by PhillipM
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Whilst a flipped UN5 would be the strongest option I think it's overkill for your application - and I'm not sure if the bonnet would be long enough to mount in longitudinally? I can get the measurement from the diff centre to the end of the engine if you like.
Personally I'd stick it on a Peugeot BE gearbox, easy to adapt, but I think they'd be a right pain to find over there. |
Big hammer and a chisel and everything fits!
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what Peugeot or I guess citroen vehicles do I find the BE gearbox in? My searches are pretty dry, except for mad expensive race application stuff.
*my car is not very wide at all. |
Hmm, so you'd struggle to fit it transversely too then?
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I'm not sure/ I'll get a mesurement when I get back from work later.
khronus79-I would go with that option if that engine wasn't so freaking expensive. That's more of a colectors item then a weekend warrior product. |
My engine bay is 3ft wide and 1ft 4inches deep.
I'm going to my monthly mini meet, I'll see what the guys think/ |
Originally Posted by bse50
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We are so lucky to have you here in Eu Phil! with your machining skills a bellhousing adapter is never a problem :ylsuper:
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Originally Posted by paulmasoner
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speaking of trannies and bell housings... wtf has no one thrown out a good idea yet for a tranny on the 8? I havent looked yet. But there's got to be a decent answer out there that isnt the FD tranny, or a purpose design(race/$$)
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...at the mini meet many things were discussed. If I can find a decent fwd bellhousing/transmission swap I'm on it. If I were to do a rwd transfer I would possibly go with the msb, length of the longblock may be a problem. RWD conversion just has that much more thought to be put into the rdiff, I would probably go with a cushman 9inch and swap the gears....Any ideas? I want this build to go right, and who knows? Maybe dgrr will have an Austin to add to the mix next year.
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Looks like it has come down to one engine per drive type, much serious thought has gone into it and if I end up taking the easy way out if gonna mount a honda H22A1 for standard front wheel drive. I have been entertaining the idea of a awd powered by Nissan Pulsar GTiR SR20DET, this would obviously be the most radical. And since measurements have proved a wankel won't fit sideways I am mostly leaning toward a 12b considering the age of the car, a 13B-MSP would be really awesome but I am not to sure if the electronics end of it would give me a migrane or not.
Just sold my 13B-REW. I think it is just way too much for this dinky car, got a good price for it. (It was from my 94 r2 that got assed 9 yrs ago) |
Originally Posted by Chad D.
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Looks like it has come down to one engine per drive type, much serious thought has gone into it and if I end up taking the easy way out if gonna mount a honda H22A1 for standard front wheel drive. I have been entertaining the idea of a awd powered by Nissan Pulsar GTiR SR20DET, this would obviously be the most radical. And since measurements have proved a wankel won't fit sideways I am mostly leaning toward a 12b considering the age of the car, a 13B-MSP would be really awesome but I am not to sure if the electronics end of it would give me a migrane or not.
Just sold my 13B-REW. I think it is just way too much for this dinky car, got a good price for it. (It was from my 94 r2 that got assed 9 yrs ago) The 5 cylinder 2 litre engine is another beast and was sold both in NA and turbo trims. They all were meant for or used in FWD applications. Basic electronics, tons of parts. I have some links i could share, let me know! |
I don't like fiat. If it came down to it i'd get a cosworth, but availability and accessability is zenith.
I have access to the cars/motors i've mentionned. I do have a budget (the 8 takes most of it) and selling my high output rew makes things a little more realistic. |
The fiat engines i'm mentioning are top grade, rock solid engines still used in many rally cars.. not the crap they sell now!
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