To all the Ford haters.....
01-28-2006, 11:55 AM
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To all the Ford haters.....
I have noticed a lot of Ford haters on this forum and frankly I am surprised. I would like some of you to name a single subsidiary that is actually worse-off with Ford's ownership/involvement. Please provide factual reasons why and not conjecture.
01-28-2006, 02:19 PM
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Not hating on Ford, but I believe it was Jaguar that Toyota recently tried to purchase. I would put money on the idea that they would be better off with Toyota.
But I can't thank Ford enough for the financial backing they've given Mazda over the past few decades, not to mention the work Mark Feilds has done with Mazda since 2000.
But I can't thank Ford enough for the financial backing they've given Mazda over the past few decades, not to mention the work Mark Feilds has done with Mazda since 2000.
01-28-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bascho
I would like some of you to name a single subsidiary that is actually worse-off with Ford's ownership/involvement. Please provide factual reasons why and not conjecture.
01-28-2006, 04:46 PM
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Umm, Mercury is all but extinct. Why? Because Ford is ****. Thanks.
01-28-2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Seiko boy knows quality.
01-28-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by therm8
That's odd. Must be why their sales are up this year...
01-28-2006, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sportura_Collection
actually i do, you racist moron. the sportura collection goes up to $4000. if you knew anything about watches, you'd know the quartz in a $20 target watch is just as good as that in a $30,000 omega. i'm talking purely aesthetics. i challenge you or anyone else to find a single TAG Heuer or Omega or whatever that looks better than the 4 sportura watches. yahtzee.
01-28-2006, 04:59 PM
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they can't go anywhere but up. the whole company is going to the *****. let's be honest. if you're going to try to defend Ford's lineup, you're biased.
If they can only go up, how can they be going "into the *****?"
Btw Mercury is actually Lincoln-Mercury. The entire model lineup is going away and new models being introduced over the next 4 years. Starting with the Milan and Zephyr. Both nice cars, and a nice change. If these 2 are forecasts of what's to come, then sales will only continue to climb.
01-28-2006, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sportura_Collection
actually i do, you racist moron. the sportura collection goes up to $4000. if you knew anything about watches, you'd know the quartz in a $20 target watch is just as good as that in a $30,000 omega. i'm talking purely aesthetics. i challenge you or anyone else to find a single TAG Heuer or Omega or whatever that looks better than the 4 sportura watches. yahtzee.
bascho, I like Fords....I've owned plenty of them, still have a Windsor V8 Ford in my driveway. Great cars, easily maintained and ultra reliable.
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Originally Posted by Gomez
I didn't see anything racist in BlueEyes comment, so tone it down Tiger
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Off topic:
I like the swiss chronometer automatics (mechanical watches)... they last forever and for some of the designs... are timeless!
I envy my dad's Omega Constellation chronometer automatic which he bought in the early Feb 68. Today... that same watch is still working like new. All it had done was a service 15 years ago to adjust the timing mechanism. And from what I hear... the mechanism has jewels as (diamonds) bearings. It's fascinating how springs and gearing can keep in sync with time.
Anyways... back to topic.
There's nothing wrong with Ford. Afterall... the winningest F1 engine is actually a Ford Cosworth UK. Cosworth is famous for the DFV race engines in F1, the ‘winningest’ engine of all time. All it needs now is if Williams F1 team can sort out their chassis and I am sure more people will pay more attention to what brand name the Williams F1 carries. I once read that the first Jaguar F1 team using a Ford Cosworth engine had the lightest, most powerful and highest revving engine to soar above 19000rpm. However, the engine was wasted on an under performing chassis.
I am hoping for Williams F1 to get some podium finishes this year. They have the resources and abilities.
I am a FORD fan btw. Ford Australia down here actually make decent cars and have won the manufacturer and driver 3 times in a row in the V8 Supercar series. NOTHING wrong with Ford.
Ohhh, I also love my MAZDA RX8... kind of sounds like a mini F1 engine with its sonorous wail. Also, it's part owned by Ford. Racing DNA rules!!!!
I like the swiss chronometer automatics (mechanical watches)... they last forever and for some of the designs... are timeless!
I envy my dad's Omega Constellation chronometer automatic which he bought in the early Feb 68. Today... that same watch is still working like new. All it had done was a service 15 years ago to adjust the timing mechanism. And from what I hear... the mechanism has jewels as (diamonds) bearings. It's fascinating how springs and gearing can keep in sync with time.
Anyways... back to topic.
There's nothing wrong with Ford. Afterall... the winningest F1 engine is actually a Ford Cosworth UK. Cosworth is famous for the DFV race engines in F1, the ‘winningest’ engine of all time. All it needs now is if Williams F1 team can sort out their chassis and I am sure more people will pay more attention to what brand name the Williams F1 carries. I once read that the first Jaguar F1 team using a Ford Cosworth engine had the lightest, most powerful and highest revving engine to soar above 19000rpm. However, the engine was wasted on an under performing chassis.
I am hoping for Williams F1 to get some podium finishes this year. They have the resources and abilities.
I am a FORD fan btw. Ford Australia down here actually make decent cars and have won the manufacturer and driver 3 times in a row in the V8 Supercar series. NOTHING wrong with Ford.
Ohhh, I also love my MAZDA RX8... kind of sounds like a mini F1 engine with its sonorous wail. Also, it's part owned by Ford. Racing DNA rules!!!!
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Originally Posted by therm8
I'm biased....riiiggghht. I'm not the one in this thread who's seems obsessed with image and brand name.
If they can only go up, how can they be going "into the *****?"
Btw Mercury is actually Lincoln-Mercury. The entire model lineup is going away and new models being introduced over the next 4 years. Starting with the Milan and Zephyr. Both nice cars, and a nice change. If these 2 are forecasts of what's to come, then sales will only continue to climb.
If they can only go up, how can they be going "into the *****?"
Btw Mercury is actually Lincoln-Mercury. The entire model lineup is going away and new models being introduced over the next 4 years. Starting with the Milan and Zephyr. Both nice cars, and a nice change. If these 2 are forecasts of what's to come, then sales will only continue to climb.
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Originally Posted by sportura
i challenge you or anyone else to find a single TAG Heuer or Omega or whatever that looks better than the 4 sportura watches.
https://www.iwc.ch/collection/_img/5...3723_001_l.jpg
And as far as functionality and innovation goes, Tissot's T-Touch is still unbeatable. http://www.tissot.ch/?mod_collection...action_preview
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Originally Posted by Sportura_Collection
Jaguar is doing pretty shitty as always.
Jaguar is doing shitty in what way? I was referring to product development. Since they were acquired by Ford, they are no longer the luxury car that needed to be towed every other day. I think their product line is strong and their line of R types is competitive with BMW and Mercedes.
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Originally Posted by Sportura_Collection
Umm, Mercury is all but extinct. Why? Because Ford is ****. Thanks.
Mercury was all but extinct a few years.....but that is in the past. The same could be said about Caddie a few years ago.....and look at them now. Mercury has a new leader, Elaina Ford (great grand-daughter of Henry Ford), and she is determined to make Mercury a womans car company. I think that attitude is brilliant since no other company is dedicated to female wants and needs in an automobile.
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Originally Posted by globi
IWC Aquatimer (well if money is not an issue).
https://www.iwc.ch/collection/_img/5...3723_001_l.jpg
And as far as functionality and innovation goes, Tissot's T-Touch is still unbeatable. http://www.tissot.ch/?mod_collection...action_preview
https://www.iwc.ch/collection/_img/5...3723_001_l.jpg
And as far as functionality and innovation goes, Tissot's T-Touch is still unbeatable. http://www.tissot.ch/?mod_collection...action_preview
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Originally Posted by bascho
Mercury was all but extinct a few years.....but that is in the past. The same could be said about Caddie a few years ago.....and look at them now. Mercury has a new leader, Elaina Ford (great grand-daughter of Henry Ford), and she is determined to make Mercury a womans car company. I think that attitude is brilliant since no other company is dedicated to female wants and needs in an automobile.
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Originally Posted by bascho
Jaguar is doing shitty in what way? I was referring to product development. Since they were acquired by Ford, they are no longer the luxury car that needed to be towed every other day. I think their product line is strong and their line of R types is competitive with BMW and Mercedes.
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Originally Posted by astro
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I like the swiss chronometer automatics (mechanical watches)... they last forever and for some of the designs... are timeless!
I envy my dad's Omega Constellation chronometer automatic which he bought in the early Feb 68. Today... that same watch is still working like new. All it had done was a service 15 years ago to adjust the timing mechanism. And from what I hear... the mechanism has jewels as (diamonds) bearings. It's fascinating how springs and gearing can keep in sync with time.
I like the swiss chronometer automatics (mechanical watches)... they last forever and for some of the designs... are timeless!
I envy my dad's Omega Constellation chronometer automatic which he bought in the early Feb 68. Today... that same watch is still working like new. All it had done was a service 15 years ago to adjust the timing mechanism. And from what I hear... the mechanism has jewels as (diamonds) bearings. It's fascinating how springs and gearing can keep in sync with time.