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Old 07-01-2012, 02:54 PM
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TX Acura TL SH-AWD vs. Nissan Maxima SV

Anyone own one of these or have any thoughts on them? The Maxima seems overpriced for what it is and I've read the TL is being cancelled to be replaced by a "TLX?"

I do like the fact that the TL has a 6MT. I'm uneducated on the CVT and it's purpose as a transmission.

Any feedback is appreciated.
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If it was me I'd look at Infiniti instead of the Nissan. Same motor but you can get RWD
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Acura TL is my choice. My friend has a Acura TL and I drove it a few times when he was drunk...lol

Anyway, I like how it looks and the feel of it. It has a lot of power for a family sedan, more power than my Mazda 6i.
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get infiniti. I cant stand the ridiculously small gap between the front wheel wells and front doors on all Acuras. you can tell its from a company that is used to design FWD cars.
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get infiniti. I cant stand the ridiculously small gap between the front wheel wells and front doors on all Acuras. you can tell its from a company that is used to design FWD cars.

I'm also looking at a g37 coupe and BMW 335i. I plan on test driving both this upcoming weekend and there are numerous threads on here about g vs 335. Anyone had experience with either?
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My vote would go to the 335i, especially if you plan on modifications. There have been a number of people who have switched to those and have really enjoyed them. They're definitely a great platform in stock or modified form.
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Originally Posted by skhmund
Anyone own one of these or have any thoughts on them? The Maxima seems overpriced for what it is and I've read the TL is being cancelled to be replaced by a "TLX?"
Any feedback is appreciated.
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I'm also looking at a g37 coupe and BMW 335i. I plan on test driving both this upcoming weekend and there are numerous threads on here about g vs 335. Anyone had experience with either?
So, pretty much you're telling us that you're looking for a car with 4 tires, and a bunch of power... You're all over the map there with your car choices.

Lets see, you started off with a near luxury AWD sedan, and a FWD performance sedan, then moved on to a RWD performance luxury coupe, and a performance luxury sedan/coupe/wagon, possibly either RWD or AWD, but unknown to us which one you are thinking of.

All 4 of those cars are going to drive entirely differently from each other.

You should give us an idea of what you're looking for in a car, and we might be able to help you narrow it down a smidge.

Also, to answer this:

I'm uneducated on the CVT and it's purpose as a transmission.
I would highly recommend using this thing called Google.
Education is very important in society, and yet extremely easy to accomplish.

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CVT's are the devil spawn...

mash gas pedel to floor, car revs to 4500 rpms and stays there, droning away as speed slowly builds.
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CVT's are the devil spawn...

mash gas pedel to floor, car revs to 4500 rpms and stays there, droning away as speed slowly builds.
I hate to say this, but I think the CVT transmission would be the best automatic transmission choice for the rotary engine. Engine would be allowed to stay up in its powerband all the time, and would possibly eliminate the carbon build up issues the early auto's suffered from.

No low rpm torque isn't much of an issue when the engine is always going to be run at its torque peak due to the CVT.

And the engineers can finally make the rotary engine run at that mythical rpm range that get better gas mileage than a comparable piston engine, that a certain Mazda executive keeps claiming exists.

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Originally Posted by Bladecutter
I hate to say this, but I think the CVT transmission would be the best automatic transmission choice for the rotary engine. Engine would be allowed to stay up in its powerband all the time, and would possibly eliminate the carbon build up issues the early auto's suffered from.

No low rpm torque isn't much of an issue when the engine is always going to be run at its torque peak due to the CVT.

And the engineers can finally make the rotary engine run at that mythical rpm range that get better gas mileage than a comparable piston engine, that a certain Mazda executive keeps claiming exists.

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You may be right but I would throw-up a little in the back of my throat every time I took off from a stop light....
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My dad drives a TL SH-AWD. I hate to admit it, but before the facelift, it had some really mean looking rims and exhaust pipes, backed by a 3.7 v-6 packing 300+ hp. Some of the things that really stood out to me when I drove it are the seats and the steering wheels. With the SH-AWD, the seats basically hug you, way more than the rx-8's, and you basically can't move sideways. The steering wheel also has a great feel to it. The power, especially low end torque, is extremely addicting, esp just getting out of the rx8. i have to say the SH-AWD version is an extremely sporty family hauler, even more so than the old type-s.

the engine does sound like its about to die before redline, but thats normal for piston engines right?
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Thanks for feedback. I've narrowed it down to the g37 coupe and 335i coupe with the N55. I'm looking for a decent DD and it seems you can't go wrong with either. Anyone have any feedback on the N55? I know the N54 had a few problems but overrall a good engine from what I hear.
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Do you plan on staying stock? Power mods? Handling?

I'd still stick with my recommendation of the 335i. They're pretty fun in stock form and you have quite a few options if you want to do modifications. You can even keep it simple with a tune and not worry about losing the warranty if you go with Dinan.

Also, I can't help but hear "dying cow" since I heard someone used that to describe the G series exhaust note.
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Originally Posted by 8 Maniac
Do you plan on staying stock? Power mods? Handling?

I'd still stick with my recommendation of the 335i. They're pretty fun in stock form and you have quite a few options if you want to do modifications. You can even keep it simple with a tune and not worry about losing the warranty if you go with Dinan.

Also, I can't help but hear "dying cow" since I heard someone used that to describe the G series exhaust note.
Both have good power and good mpg. I am not planning on any modding or tracking. I just need an all around, balanced DD. My commute to work is 75 miles round trip. I put on 2,500 miles/month.

My main concern is with long term reliability of the N55. I have always been a NA guy at heart, no offense to FI. Correct me if I am wrong, but if something breaks in the 335i, a BMW part will be more expensive vs. a g37 part?

I'm also wondering if the premium the BMW carries in price is worth it. For example, certain options that are standard in the G37 are considered options in the 335. I just find it hard to believe that you're paying that much for a car and the price doesn't include alot.

I'm going for the 6MT in both FYI.

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What about a used Speed6?
You can snag a nice one for less then 15k.
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Originally Posted by skhmund
My main concern is with long term reliability of the N55. I have always been a NA guy at heart, no offense to FI. Correct me if I am wrong, but if something breaks in the 335i, a BMW part will be more expensive vs. a g37 part?

I'm also wondering if the premium the BMW carries in price is worth it. For example, certain options that are standard in the G37 are considered options in the 335. I just find it hard to believe that you're paying that much for a car and the price doesn't include alot.
Are you buying new or used?
If buying used, I would probably recommend the G37 over the BMW.

If you're buying new, might as well spring for the BMW, as you get 4 year power train warranty, and free maintenance. Get an extended warranty with the new BMW if you want to keep it around longer.

And yes, most German parts will cost more than the same Japanese part, for these two cars. That's just the way things are. Both are solid cars that have been around for a while, though.

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Originally Posted by Bladecutter
Are you buying new or used?
If buying used, I would probably recommend the G37 over the BMW.

If you're buying new, might as well spring for the BMW, as you get 4 year power train warranty, and free maintenance. Get an extended warranty with the new BMW if you want to keep it around longer.

And yes, most German parts will cost more than the same Japanese part, for these two cars. That's just the way things are. Both are solid cars that have been around for a while, though.

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I plan on buying new. However, both cars seem to be non-existent here in the Houston area, I've checked surrounding areas as well and no luck. Ill prob have to get the local dealer to find one and then either I go pick it up or they flatbed it down here. Curious, how does the local dealer make money off selling me a car from another dealer? I'm unsure on that particular process.

I plan on test driving both on this weekend, but it will have to be the automatics.

And buying new, you said the BMW, you're basing that solely on the warranty. How good is BMW warranty, like how extensive?

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What about a used Speed6?
You can snag a nice one for less then 15k.
Trying to stick a 6 cylinder or above. No offense, a great car, just not for me
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