720 lbs. lighter?
06-08-2011, 06:37 PM
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720 lbs. lighter?
insideline.com/mazda/mx-5-miata/mazda-miata-dieting-for-the-future.html
That's a lot of weight to lose. Not sure if it's possible.
That's a lot of weight to lose. Not sure if it's possible.
06-08-2011, 06:55 PM
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Wow. Once again, Mazda proves they know me – and sports car lovers like me – better than any other car company. Is it any surprise Miata is the most popular sports car of all time? Even though I've owned three, sign me up now.
06-08-2011, 07:13 PM
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Will probably need a strong yet lightweight bonded aluminum frame similar to the Elise.
If they pull it off, it will likly be in the form of a mazdaspeed edition. No stereo, very little sound deadening and carpet materials, maybe even no A/C. No matter what happens, shoting for a low weight is always a good thing.
If they pull it off, it will likly be in the form of a mazdaspeed edition. No stereo, very little sound deadening and carpet materials, maybe even no A/C. No matter what happens, shoting for a low weight is always a good thing.
06-08-2011, 09:29 PM
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http://green.autoblog.com/2011/02/09...automotive-pa/
http://www.reinforcedplastics.com/vi...tive-industry/
Steel contributes about 60% to an average vehicle's weight, and almost all of it could, in theory, be replaced by CFRP. A number of high-end sports cars already feature parts made of CFRP, and it is also widely used for custom modifications, but very little of this potentially huge market has yet been realized.
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06-08-2011, 11:11 PM
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I just read those "news/goals"
it sounds really good, but hmm, they're using 1.4 turbo ? no SkyActiv-G? not small enough for Miata ? what about the SkyActiv-Transmission? thought it's redesign to save weight and faster shifting ?
720 lbs sounds a bit hard, if they're going to use a lot of higher (tensile) strength steel like they said earlier ... but I don't know, 500 lbs is already pushing it, 720 ?
if they can "cut" Miata's weight by 720, I wonder what the next RX gonna be. I'm not greedy, just cut about 500 lbs. you can even keep the same engine. the car will fly.
it sounds really good, but hmm, they're using 1.4 turbo ? no SkyActiv-G? not small enough for Miata ? what about the SkyActiv-Transmission? thought it's redesign to save weight and faster shifting ?
720 lbs sounds a bit hard, if they're going to use a lot of higher (tensile) strength steel like they said earlier ... but I don't know, 500 lbs is already pushing it, 720 ?
if they can "cut" Miata's weight by 720, I wonder what the next RX gonna be. I'm not greedy, just cut about 500 lbs. you can even keep the same engine. the car will fly.
06-09-2011, 07:12 AM
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They probably have something in house already, or at least it seems to work on their simulation computers.
For Miata, They can probably do it, if they make the car about 10% smaller, even with same kind of metal/material, it will probably cut 10% of the weight.
Fat people can't sit in it? that's their problem, Look at Z4, that car is really small, did BMW "enlarge" it over the years? nope. well it is a bit bigger than Z3. but it's still small.
I know I'm fat too, but I have been on a diet and lost 30 lbs already. not bad. Oh yea
hell if it's really 1800 lbs I might just get one myself.
For Miata, They can probably do it, if they make the car about 10% smaller, even with same kind of metal/material, it will probably cut 10% of the weight.
Fat people can't sit in it? that's their problem, Look at Z4, that car is really small, did BMW "enlarge" it over the years? nope. well it is a bit bigger than Z3. but it's still small.
I know I'm fat too, but I have been on a diet and lost 30 lbs already. not bad. Oh yea
hell if it's really 1800 lbs I might just get one myself.
06-09-2011, 07:39 AM
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It's no surprise that they won't hit the weight goal--but at least they have a minimalist goal to aim for. If the ND weighs less than a ton, or even in the neighborhood of 2200, it could be a real winner.
06-09-2011, 07:54 AM
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They probably have something in house already, or at least it seems to work on their simulation computers.
For Miata, They can probably do it, if they make the car about 10% smaller, even with same kind of metal/material, it will probably cut 10% of the weight.
Fat people can't sit in it? that's their problem, Look at Z4, that car is really small, did BMW "enlarge" it over the years? nope. well it is a bit bigger than Z3. but it's still small.
I know I'm fat too, but I have been on a diet and lost 30 lbs already. not bad. Oh yea hell if it's really 1800 lbs I might just get one myself.
For Miata, They can probably do it, if they make the car about 10% smaller, even with same kind of metal/material, it will probably cut 10% of the weight.
Fat people can't sit in it? that's their problem, Look at Z4, that car is really small, did BMW "enlarge" it over the years? nope. well it is a bit bigger than Z3. but it's still small.
I know I'm fat too, but I have been on a diet and lost 30 lbs already. not bad. Oh yea
hell if it's really 1800 lbs I might just get one myself.That's not gonna happen with airbags, mandatory "safety" systems and the whole load of bs that the car industry demands.
1100kg is realistic though.
06-09-2011, 10:09 AM
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