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Jake33 01-11-2012 07:08 PM

6 Rotor RX-4
 
http://www.facebook.com/PulsePerformance?sk=wall

these guys claim to be building a 6 rotor RX-4.

im really not sure if i believe it, let alone believe it will work. thoughts?

Silver_Surfer 01-11-2012 07:15 PM

Humm

2= V6
3= V8
4= V10
5=V12
6= V:Eyecrazy:
Back to the Future............

Hesselrode 01-11-2012 07:20 PM

I would like to see numbers on that!!!

Jake33 01-11-2012 07:27 PM

I cant begin to imagine how much fuel it would require JUST to start it up. The e-shaft has to be worth more than a gold mine itself

monchie 01-11-2012 10:32 PM

If you could put a man on the moon, then anything is possible.

TeamRX8 01-11-2012 10:37 PM

Jeff Bruce @ Precision Engineering can supply you with the parts

http://www.precisionengltd.co.nz/rotary.html

Jake33 01-11-2012 11:55 PM

do you think its possible though? he said in his post that all the research and development was done, all that is left is fab work. he also inlcuded in the post that he built Mad Mike's 26B rx-7...i really want to see what this thing will be capable of and what they will use it for. he also said it weighs less than a boosted 26B, quite impressive

8 Maniac 01-12-2012 01:14 AM

I have to really question if this is worth anything but bragging. If you want to reach a certain power goal while staying NA, I guess this would be what to do. But it seems like a 3 or 4 rotor engine with FI would be easier and easily reach most power goals. The picture they posted isn't loading for me... Is there any indication of what the purpose for this build is?

RotaryTherapy 01-12-2012 06:03 AM

"PPRE6b" Six rotor Tubbed Rx-4
 
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...9243800&type=3

Ok so cat out of the bag all is go for this project now all reserch & development has been done. Time to get the fabrication underway

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...66316880_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...28818383_n.jpg

Fuck yo 4 rotor !

200.mph 01-12-2012 06:47 AM

omfg

wcs 01-12-2012 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by 200.mph (Post 4163783)
omfg

^ THIS! my mind has been blown

alnielsen 01-12-2012 06:56 AM

What ecu will run it?

wcs 01-12-2012 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 4163789)
What ecu will run it?

Good question.
The Motec 880 is only up to a quad rotor

RIWWP 01-12-2012 07:08 AM

2 = Bi-rotor
3 = Tri-rotor
4 = Quad-rotor
5 = Quint-rotor
6 = Sex-rotor

This is not a coincidence.

Flashwing 01-12-2012 07:17 AM

Oh...my....god.

Ometta 01-12-2012 07:22 AM

How the heck do you get ahold of a six rotor?

fuztupnz 01-12-2012 07:22 AM

This might not be the best place to ask, but how can i get that in my 8? I've been thinking about doing a swap but i didn't want to create a new thread. I have about $4000 dollars to spend. I've done a lot of searching and reading so i think it can be done. What do you think?














:fruit: someone had to do it.


sex-rotor. Fitting. That is one long ass engine.

fuztupnz 01-12-2012 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Ometta (Post 4163804)
How the heck do you get ahold of a six rotor?

You make one. Looks like 13b housings. At least i think that's what the casting says.

RotaryTherapy 01-12-2012 07:38 AM

These are the same guys who have been building all of Mad Mike's cars, can't wait to see what insanity this sex-rotor will produce :D

wcs 01-12-2012 08:25 AM

Ok ok ... someone has to say this.

What about the fuel mileage!?!?!!?

RIWWP 01-12-2012 08:29 AM

They haven't installed the 3rd wheel yet in place of the standard gas tank so they can fit their "short commute" gas tank.

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/105...Diesel_and.jpg

Gitfiddle 01-12-2012 08:43 AM

I have happy :Drooling_

wcs 01-12-2012 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4163889)
They haven't installed the 3rd wheel yet in place of the standard gas tank so they can fit their "short commute" gas tank.

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/105...Diesel_and.jpg

LULZ HUGE! win

bse50 01-12-2012 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by wcs (Post 4163793)
Good question.
The Motec 880 is only up to a quad rotor

You could always split it into 2 three rotors tuning wise i guess. I'm not sure about that, it depends on the rotor's orientation.

Mawnee 01-12-2012 09:20 AM

Cant wait to hear that beast!

zoom44 01-12-2012 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 4163789)
What ecu will run it?


what ecu? carbs and distributer. done

Jake33 01-12-2012 11:46 AM

i didnt see anything of what theyre trying to achieve...but i do want to see is this thing redline. i want to see if the e-shaft can really can handle it

zoom44 01-12-2012 11:52 AM

threads merged

RIWWP 01-12-2012 11:53 AM

:rofl:

Zoom is quicker on the trigger.

wcs 01-12-2012 12:09 PM

It's over a year old thread ....
But FWIW I thought I would post a link to it ..

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=935195

rotarygod 01-12-2012 12:10 PM

It wouldn't be that hard to find an ecu to run it if they build it much like a flat plane crank V8. In those engines they essentially have two 4 cylinder engines running a the same time since 2 pistons fire at the same time. This is why Ferrari V8's sound so neat. If they did this engine the same way by always having 2 rotors fire at the same time it wouldn't be any different than running a 3 rotor except that the ecu is firing and fueling 2 rotors at a time. It doesn't know that though. Not a very big problem to overcome. If they build the eccentric shaft where each rotor fires independently of another one then they are going to need at least 2 ecu's and a few bottles of aspirin.

My biggest concern for this is cooling. It is going to take several loop lines to evenly flow coolant and even then it will need a special separate water pump to do it. It will have to go dry sump to get the capacity and a larger radiator and oil cooler setup also need to be fit in. The exhaust will definitely be a nightmare but if they do the crank the way I propose they should then it would be nothing more than a dual exhaust with 2 headers that never collect with each other. Again, simple. Intake is open for interpretation and doesn't have to be complicated. Due to the length I personally wouldn't use just one throttle body and plenum.

There is a lot to work out with this whole setup. Fitting it in the car may be the easy part.

Silver_Surfer 01-12-2012 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4163889)
They haven't installed the 3rd wheel yet in place of the standard gas tank so they can fit their "short commute" gas tank.

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/105...Diesel_and.jpg

Truth:rollingla

TeamRX8 01-12-2012 02:01 PM

multiple electric water pumps, no problem

RotaryTherapy 01-12-2012 02:58 PM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...99190131_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...08886654_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...95607983_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...21483047_n.jpg

rotarygod 01-12-2012 03:39 PM

That thing better run 2's when it's done!

warren(silver-roxy-8) 01-12-2012 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Mawnee (Post 4163923)
Cant wait to hear that beast!

Right?! Imagine the 'braps' that will ensue.

Jake33 01-12-2012 04:28 PM

thanks RotaryTherapy now i have to clean my keybaord bro...

Brettus 01-12-2012 04:49 PM

Most wonder if it can be done - Kiwis just do it .......

1.3_LittersOfFurry 01-14-2012 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryTherapy (Post 4163764)


Dear Santa,...

elysium19 01-15-2012 11:23 AM

good god!

I like how it's not just a total pipe dream....of course the rest of the engine fittings have to be worked out, but there it is, sitting in a real car with tires and suspension! Can't wait to see where this thread goes....

blackenedwings 01-16-2012 01:40 PM

That is bad ass... just to see someone do what hasn't been done before. It will sound like armageddon when it idles too, because it will be running like two simultaneous 3-rotor motors.

ASH8 01-17-2012 03:30 AM

What about Tension Bolt Lengths!!

Another WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

rotarygod 01-17-2012 10:05 AM

I can tell you with 100% certainty that if only longer tension bolts are going to be used to hold the engine together that it will not work regardless of the bolt or stud type used. This engine absolutely needs to have a complete structural cage of some kind built around it or it WILL come apart.

RIWWP 01-17-2012 10:27 AM

^ As much as I'd like to see the engine in person, I don't think I'd care to be anywhere near it if that happens.

tex_complex 01-23-2012 12:37 AM

just a tad ummmmmmmmmmmmmm scary. just a tad.,

8 Maniac 01-23-2012 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by rotarygod (Post 4167551)
I can tell you with 100% certainty that if only longer tension bolts are going to be used to hold the engine together that it will not work regardless of the bolt or stud type used. This engine absolutely needs to have a complete structural cage of some kind built around it or it WILL come apart.

I hope they know that...

Or I hope they video the first start up...

Vorsanss 01-23-2012 09:35 AM

This looks like it should work they will just be firing 2 rotors at the same time jumping down the line I would assume. My guess the timing would go something like this Rotors # in order ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) 1 + 4 fire then 2 + 5 fire then 3 + 6. That's just my guess i could be wrong. But in all i want to drive it and watch everyone cry in my rear view mirror. LOL

RotaryTherapy 01-28-2012 05:45 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...72930882_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...10356488_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...56619651_n.jpg

wcs 01-28-2012 07:34 AM

Everyone is wrong about why the world is going to end in 2012.

If this engine works ... it will have enough powa to cause the earth to break orbit

8 Maniac 01-28-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryTherapy (Post 4175965)

They should be more careful... she might get sucked in!


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