isn't it because of the engine size? 3.7L ?

 

arghh, wish mazda would do change sumthing drastic

 

Yes, its due to the engine size.

 

they are... z has been out basically the same amount of time the 8 has been... this is the next real upgrade for the z, the 16x is the next real upgrade for the rx-?. They'll probably come out about the same time too (I'm guessing).

 

If it's significantly lighter, I might actually be tempted to jump ship. Yes I have no brand loyalty, but then even with a smaller chassis I can't see how Nissan would be able to cut 350 pounds. Is the car still based on the FM architecture?

 

Well, there was a 240z, a 260Z, and a 280z, so since they bumped to 350 from 300, it should be a 380z, then 400. 370Z? That doesn't sound right. They'd be better off just calling it just a Z eventually in the US, and eliminating the number permanently.

 

wow...i am really looking forward to this...

since when has a manufacturer revamped a car by making it smaller(most likely lighter) AND giving it more HP

no matter what u think about the Z, u have to give props for Nissan going back to what made the Z popular in the first place

330hp/3000lbs .......sounds good to me

 

yeah the numbers are just engine size....350z is 3.5 liters, so 370z is 3.7 liters. Although 380z just seems to roll off the tounge better.

 

But its a new decade and you younger guys want something differant.

After all we dropped you on your heads when you were an infant.

That's why:
Sports cars now have 4 doors.
Station wagons are SUVs.
and trucks became monsters like the yellow Tonka dumpster you played with as a kid.


Go figure.

 

haha I was merely suggesting that they should just make it a 3.8 liter engine, not a 3.7 so they could call it a 380z. It simply sounds better.

Wish I was as young as you make me out to be. I can actually relate to what you are saying, and that's why I'm the proud owner of an S2000, a true modern day sports car. 2 doors, 2 Seats, no options available, no automatic tranny option, lacks luxury and amenities, isn't all that comfortable, is loud, bumpy, but is a pure blast to drive.

With that said, The new Z is gonna really be hated on this forum and likely other forums with that kind of power and light weight. I look forward to it. Will Mazda have an answer?

The Z was my third choice in a sports car, after the RX8, and S2000, and I likely would never buy one, but I respect that car a lot. Great heritage!!

 

not sure why they went 3.7, while the GT-R uses a 3.8L engine. kinda puzzling because they are all about saving cost by sharing as many things as possible between cars. thats what powered their ruthless comeback from the brink of bankruptcy

 

whatever happened to the 380z?
and yeah i have come to notice that nissan has been making their cars resemble one main car for the past... forever. ever look at the old maximas? look like r34s...

 

I had to chuckle a bit at this. The 3.8 in the GTR is a hand built motor. Very expensive to build. It would cost Nissan a fortune to do this for the next Z. The 3.7 they are using is a mass produced engine from the G37, hence the cost savings you are referencing.

Hope that helps!!

 

they can easily mass produce the cylinder and heads of the GT-R without the super expensive coating. the engine is assembled by hand, the block and heads are still machine built and can be mass produced

 

Why do all that when you can drop an already mass produced engine?? Keep it simple... Reduce weight, mass produced potent enough engine, and you have another top selling sports car....

 

it seems to me the reason is timing and logistic related that they decided to goto 3.8L with the GT-R too late in the game to share some of the parts with the VQ line as opposed by it having to do with the GT-R engine being assembled by hand... which has nothing to do with the production of the individual components...

im not sure what you mean by "why do all that" when it seems simpler to me to share the 3.8L cylinder parts with both engines had they made the decision to goto 3.8 with the GT-R early enough.

 

i could care less if its 3.7 or 3.8l though, im just not sure why it seems so ludacris to you that sharing block and cylinder heads etc which are machine made might save cost? all im saying is, whatever their reason is, i doubt its because the GT-R engine is assembled by hand.

 

I think so?

They did. Have you not seen the new look of the 8?

Meh They just trying to be like us RX-7 RX-8 lol

 

short answer: CHEAPER.

 

But 380z does sound much better....

 

It's *** looks like, dare I say it? crossf___!

 

Spy shots, so can't really tell a whole lot about looks just yet.

 

The GT-R should have it's own unique engine (VR38dett). If I'm buying a GT-R, then I don't want the same basic engine you get in an Altima SE (VQ-) or an Xterra. This may be acceptable for the Z car as cost is definitely a factor but not for Nissan's flagship model. The GT-R competes with vehicles many classes above the $30,000 sports car club and would not be nearly as "special" or obtain as high of reputation as it will/does. No reason to save money or make it any cheaper as it's already a hell of a bargain for what it can do. Sometimes saving money by sharing major components can cost a company more money in the long run.

 

That might change in the future. its Nissan afterall, they share everythng from platforms to engines to door handles to cup holders on ALL of their cars!

But for the GTR's engine, you might only see it in future products from Infiniti.
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Will they still make the exhaust moooo?