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Re: Re: how the other half lives...
 

Just picked up the Trader: For "Re-sale"

Nissan 350Z - 9 Mazda RX-8 - 0

Wouldn't you think by now that there might be a single RX-8 for
resale? I do, and the fact that I've yet to spot one in the Auto Trader is amazing. Even if your theory held water you would expect to see a couple of 8s for sell from time to time.....Either people just love them or maybe there secretly returning them in other states to buy 350s?

It's very possible. I never said that your theory was wrong...I just offered a different one. Your ideas are also only show resale cars for san diego where that particular auto trader publishes. Not to mention they sell the most 350s in california. If you look on ebay there are always a few 8's for sale. There's a few for you.

Some things don't jive here. Does anyone else sense it?

Yes, I sensed it too. He is half naked in his avatar. I can almost see his nipples.

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Take a look at the forsale section on this board there are some for sale there, and just doing a search on autotrader.com for my area turned up 13 used RX-8s for sale. A lot les than the Z would turn up with the same search, but that's to be expected considering how many are on the road and that some people have had them for a couple years now.

There are no RX-8 Private owners selling on Auto Trader, because the dealer is offering Invoice on all 8's. They can't compete with that, when the dealer can't even sell the dang car when it is new. At my dealer, they are selling at invoice; 11 Rx-8s there and not going anywhere. I don't understand why, becuase it is a pretty noice package.


Troy J.

4 Private sellers in my area, but yes, if they bought the RX-8 near MSRP they are going to lose their ass because many dealers seem to be flooded with RX-8s. Hell, on autotrader in the used car area I had to weed through the new cars to count the used ones. So delaers are paying for ads in the used area of the site to get more exposure. The few dealers I've seen in my area have plenty of 8s to go around and are willing to deal. It is a nice package, but hp sells cars in many cases. Even though the RX-8 is a great car (I mean that) it's getting a lot of ridicule within the import community, and even by enthusiasts who just expected more umph. That has to be hurting sales to a degree, and I would imagine so is some reluctancy caused by the stigma that seems to follow to rotary.

Ike

Mazda dropped the ball with its MSRP game again. I have been saying from the beginning, Mazda should have offered the RX-8 6MT for $25k, and max out under $30k to be competitive. If they had done that, the hp issue wouldn't matter (since cars in the same class have less), they wouldn't have to discount it to invoice, which hurts both brand image and resale.

i didn't buy the car for its HP....i think the technology and car we are getting is fairly priced. come on it's a rotary..although cheaper is always nice..

I personally didn't buy the car for the engine of all things. I could care less what the heck kind of engine it has. I think the looks make it very appealing, but I do agree that a HP boost would have helped sales. Especially when you compaire this car to a 287-hp 350z, when you think about it--- A Honda Accord has 2 more bhp than an RX-8! It is a crazy world.

Troy J.

WTFE. Mazda offered a 4 seater sports car with much more equipment than the S2k and the Z for LESS money. So if they "dropped the ball" then Honda and Nissan must have just lost their f'n minds when they priced their cars.

scorp76,

I agree with you completely. Skyline Maniac has no clue here. He's completely, disastrously wrong here.

The majority of auto owners will never modify their car, and many of those that intend to modify will wait until the warranty is up. Why should you have to pay more for something that was already intended to be there (more hp) and risk warranty claims being denied.

I read a lot of car boards, if you want to think it's just me entertaining you, that's your perogative. But I see what other car owners say about the RX-8, most of it relates to how slow it is or how Mazda screwed up. While these may be nieve statements, made by people that don't realize it's still a great car, they're still people that may have driven the car and bought the car if it did not have the stigma attached to it. A stigma that was placed there by Mazda, and a stigma that continues to grow as the dyno results of RX-8s make their rounds on the car forums.
Tell them about the International Engine (motors are electric) of the Year Award and they will laugh you off their forum. I'm not saying it's right, but it's the truth in many cases.

Ike

My sense of Mazda, as a company, and the people that buy rotaries is that both are pretty unique. Mazda invested in a technology that everyone else was abandoning and despite all the problems with the Gen 3 turbo RX-7's, people kept them and modified their machines into monsters. Neither follow "conventional wisdom" and seem to care little about what others say.

Sure it might not help sales directly, but this type of culture gives the rotary and Mazda a cult-like status, which has helped Mazda keep and develop a brand image. Mazda is using the RX-8 to build a brand image. In the U.S. the Mazda 3 and 6 are the money makers for the company.

That's my two cents,

Magic8

JeupRX-8:

dont feel embarassed about having the same car as one of your seniors! Myself, I don't feel ashamed when beating the crap out of youngsters in the local MTB track or in the nationals ;-)

Tamas

BTW: I'm 29, and don't forget money is not everything!

i have had my rx8 for 2 months.
i have to say the z is the better than the rx8
i have a silverstone 350z on order. i love the duel exhaust on the nissan 350z why cant the rx8 have a nice sound.?

You sound just dumb enough to fit in with the Z crowd. You definitely picked the right car.

And you sound bitter enough to fit in with the 8 crowd...what's your point? If you're going to make a stereotypical comment just say it bluntly like "I think 350z owners are idiots" no need to be sly and try to make it seem like you're not insulting the guy.

Oh I thought I was being nice about it. I could have said it in a rude way, such as "Z owners are fucking idiots," or, "Z owners are as fucking stupid as their cars are ugly."

Next time I won't bite my tongue.

That's the spirit! You should never hide your true feelings. I still think they're both great cars, but that's just me. I apologize if you feel like I attacked you there with my last remark. That guy did insult your car first, so I understand why you'd lash back, I just think it's more mature to just say what you were really thinking and let it all out instead of trying to be sarcastic. It's a problem that I can't stand in my household. Everyone holds in their anger and instead of letting it go they just keep doing mean things. I think everyone needs to just let their anger out every once in awhile and just get it over with. Enough with hateful remarks, can't we all just get along?

I never do. Holding shit in will send you to an early grave.

Don't count on it Rodney.

I've never heard that phrase before? Where did it come from and who's Rodney?