350 z Killer
 

Ok, what's going to take to hunt 350 z's and kill them?

1) Bone stock Z

2) A Z with intake and exhaust


Do you think we have a chance to kill them with intake and exhaust mods only on the 8?

Statistically were pretty close now.

nope u dont have a chance

Put lead in the trunk, or water in the gas tank of the 350z. Then you may have a 50/50 chance.

You are speaking of a drag correct? :D :rolleyes:

lol why is everything about straight line? On a road course it depends on driver, but a slight edge to the 8

Go out to a tight technical course. If you are doing straight drag, or a track with long straights you are dead.

I can keep up with em on a track with long straight, you just need to make up a ton of room on the brakes and turns

i'm just waiting for someone to reply: "you can take them in the twisties!"

that's so obviously not what people who start these threads are looking for....they want stoplight killers. :rolleyes:

Simple and quick answer. FI.

you can whoop the 5 speed AT Z owners!

Lol, u guys have funny reply.
Oh, can we beat rsx-s and eclipse or 330 ci in straight line?

i'll race you in a stright line. I'll be wearing my black new balances, or maybe my puma's!

If you are a decent driver. The 330 may be more of a challenge.

take a giant acme rubber band put it around the light post and slowly back up into then hold the brakes and wait for a z to come by i dont think i would even bother with the engine just kick it neutral and sling shot your way to glory

The 05' rxs-S have stock Type-R pistons , exhaust, and if im not mistaking the Final drive is the same as the type-R

The 05 doesnt use the same K20A2 engine it uses the K20Z1 engine now on the 05s

basicly the new rsx-s w/ I/RH/EX can beat stocks s2ks..


put some IPS K2 Cams on it and Hondata K-pro and a flywheel...you have a very very quick RSX..


I wanted that car so bad untill i found the insurance was going to rape my ass...

i honestly have never had any problems with the rsx-s, don't know why, but its the truth. On a track of course :)

never had a problem with 330ci's on a straight line... highway rolling starts or off the lines.

we've never had problems beating the RSX-S so far. ive definitely never killed one, but ive always finished ahead.

barely lost to the 06 eclipse, and lost by a few car lengths to the 350z.

An 06 Eclipse? Really? Perhapos my memory is wrong, but aren't they slower than the previous gen, and those only had like a 6.5 0-60 IIRC..?

Last track day there was 3 rsx-s, 3 wrx, 1 m3, 1 z4, none of which could keep up, but it was a tight track and I was running R compounds. I have run into a 350z on the track before. He was faster on the straights but I would catch him in the turns. Almost identical lap times.

They have 260hp and I think 260tq. Its a pig of a car, but with that power it is relatively quick.

I think you make a mistake about hunting 350Z's. You assume that people in stock Z's are going to want to "race you". People don't want to race you unless they feel they have an advantage over you...which means they're going to either be pushing a turbo/supercharger, or heavy NA mods.

You'd need a greedy turbo'd, dyno tuned, with one of the new X ecu thingy's to have a chance in your stoplight battles. Even then, if the Z is supercharged, its going to leave you in the dust. (Low end torque slaughters all in stoplight battles).

If you want to stomp 350Z's no matter what mods they have, you might want to start working on the world's first LS2 conversion. An LS2/T56 from a wrecked 2005 GTO would probably run you the same money as a decent turbo kit, especially if you can ebay your old drivetrain. You'd just have a tad more fabrication to do. ;)

88 Crx K20 Type R Jackson Racing Supercharger...its Over

Didn't know the 350 was that much faster, but I knew I could not beat one. I have a Blue one around here that tries to race me all the time, but I don't feel like losing. I am saving for a Greddy Turbo and then I'll give him a go. Does anyone have times for a full bolt-on RX-8, I/Ex/HiFlowCat/Flywhl/Pullies?

You'd probably be in the low 14s with that set up. Still not good enough to beat a 350.

Maybe it's just my area...but most of the people who drive 350zs around here never seem to be the racing type. The punks in G35 Coupes, on the other hand, are another story.

Even though the 06 Eclipse has impressive horsepower and torque figures...its fat ass brings its 0-60 and 1/4 mile down to our level of performance. So in a straight line it would come down to the driver. We'd probably slaughter it on the track though.

hey you can take it trought the twisties though... haha ok jk jk just had to say that but no no i saw the top gear on the 8 and it had the same time as a m3 and guess what else had the same time?.... 350... but hey who cares. at least the car looks better

I owned an 2g Eclipse and a 330ci before and I can tell you that it wouldn't be too hard to beat either of them. Both of them were autos tho.

Race one w/ the mods i listen in my 1st post, thats good for mid 13's

The truth is never.

That's why this forum doesn't have a street encounter section :D

^^ no because our cars are to slow to beat anything worth actually racing..

Hey, i just went out to the tracks at streets of willow, really technical course, i smoked a gutted out fixed up 350z with full suspension straight pipe and all, i thought i was good..... but then i got smoke by a stock 4 door 2004 4 clyn. accord, i figured that none of this means anything up against a good driver. this is a true story, if u think this is a joke, check redline events website. the accrod is going out again in sept, race him if u think ur good, u gonna find a surprise. my friend in his 2004 m3 with smg, found out the same thing i did, a good driver can take out a fast car, pretty easy. so if u wanna compair cars, u better take some driving lessions first. :p

Wrong again. The moderators just do not condone discussion about street racing and "kills" on here. We're a more mature crowd than that.

But let me tell you a little story about what happened with a G35 Coupe and my RX-8 last week... :rolleyes:

^^ im jsut messing around hey how did you kno i raced my buddys G =) loll

Well it depends on the track really. I set up this really tight course that runs from my garage to the end of the drive way and you'd be suprised what I have killed so far.

1. 911s
2. new z06
3. 05 mustang

and that's with my 10 speed bike no less.

The kicker is the turn in the garage, they have to make a 3 point turn and try to miss all the crap I have stored in there, I just wip it around no problem. :p

The kid on the 06 bigwheel did give me a pretty good run though but I still edged him out at the end.

The RX-8 and 350Z are dead even at turnpike speeds. I was as surprised as he was [350Z] that we were so evenly matched :eek: . Both maunal trans, intakes and exhausts, but I had the RB flywheel.

You hear it all the time, "the RX-8 is slow...", that I almost believed it. Maybe my driving skills were better than the 350Z :confused: . It was pretty early in the morning, so the roads were clear and seemed safe from...

Once the RX-8 gets going it really is competitive. After 40 miles of our "testing" the 350Z guy gave me a thumbs up :cool:. Looks like there is AT LEAST one 350Z owner, from experience, that will give us some props.

the typeR has 11.5:1 compression the 02-04 rsxS has 11:1 and the 05 rsxS has 11.1:1, the type R has 220hp the 02-04 has 200hp and the 05 has 210. not much changed from 02-04 to the 05 other than the .1 increase in comp ratio and the new ECU tune (cant be reflashed). I have a friend with a stock 05 and my girlfriend has a 03 with CAI, VFACII (street tuned w/ wideband) and motor mounts (better launch) the 05 dynos 182whp and my girlfriends 03 does 210whp, I beat the 05 on the open (straight) highway and keep up nose to nose with the 03 untill about 130 where i can start to pull on her.

I will agree that the rsxS does better with mods than the 8 and can be made very fast for pretty cheap, my girlfriend is going to throw the whole toda catalog at her car and then doing a full dyno tune, to get about 280whp. NA.

Ive seen many stock S2k's beat up on rsxS with I/H/E from a roll, and esp from a launch.

sell the 8 and get a used EVO/ STI/z06/M3/Cobra and then u'll be a 350Z killer. :cool:

Just test drove a 350Z today to look more into what the competition was like. The car is fast, 0-60 is definitely faster than the RX-8!

The car felt so crude and rattley as though I was driving a lowered truck and could feel most of the imperfections in the road. The handling felt like I had to power slide the chassis to get it to move around, you more like glide the car through turns than drive through them.

The shifter was notchy and vague, and the engine power felt like an on-off switch. I couldn't shift the 350Z fast enough since it revved too quickly to redline. All I was thinking was CAMARO or TRANS AM, this is definitely an American muscle car! No Jinba Ittai whatsoever...

When I slid back into my RX-8, there was a definite difference in chassis balance and refinement/smoothness/connectedness, and it felt just a fast, except with 0-60. Now I understand why Car and Driver, Road and Track, Edmunds and Motortrend consistently give the RX-8 nods over the 350Z.

On the way back home an Acura TL wanted to play but I left it in the dust around some "S" bends in the highway. When I glanced back to see how far off the TL was I could see the car oversteer dangerously about ten car lengths behind me, but the driver managed to keep control. Scary for me to see, I imagine the TL driver was making a burnout somewhere other than his tires on the tarmac. The TL quit after that. :cool:

Well it is sad right now but hp and tq numbers are rising for the 8. The ptp turbo sounds like a good bet when it comes out. With that 8s will be doing over 300 whp and 250 lbft of tq i believe. That should level out the playing field some and atleast give us much more of a chance. Most z and 8 owners alike dont have FI so if you do get the ptp or other FI you will should be able to hold your own. but if you cant then "take em to the twisties"...jk. I get harrassed by G35s more than Zs which is interesting because the G35 is slower than the 8 and the Z.

The 2006 models forward will all have 300 ponies, so it's going to take a much bigger Turbo than the GReddy to run one of those down in the straits. At a track, a good RX-8 driver could beat a lesser Z driver just about every time. Equal drivers, I think it comes down to the track. In any case, the Z isn't really slower in the turns than the 8, its just much harder to drive to its limits, so skill is going to make the difference there.

If the Z is running a twin turbo kit, then there is no competition at all. If your pleasure is speed than the Z is your car. If your looking for something a little more well rounded for the everyday commute the 8 is the better car.

Greddy is weak but with the interceptor-x or the bigger turbo kits like PTP and SFR that put out 280+ to the wheels should do some damage to your average z even if it has 300bhp. The PTP kit will have over 300 to the wheels! however if your unlucky enough to find one of those turbo zs it might not be fun. i have only ever seen one where i live and it was actually a G35 and i live in Atlanta so we are not short on zs or G35s.

I would be careful there with saying the G35 is slower than the 8. If I'm not mistaken the coupe version has 300 ponies, which would probably make it a little faster than the 8 in the straits.

Thats true i forgot they got the power upgrade not too long ago.

its just going to take time to get some serious power. People have been tuning piston engines for a long time. there are much less people tuning rotaries and the renesis is not exactly like the old rotaries anyway. Hopefully it wont take too long though because if it does the next gen skyline and possible supras and such will own us.

I actually ripped through a winding road @ around 70 mph...and little did I know that there was an Audi A6 3.0 being test driven behind me that drove through the winding road at a high speed right after I had, and I watched my rear view mirror and saw thme execute the same road almost effortlessly. I was pretty impressed.

Of course there's also another part to this story but I won't post it..don't want to piss off the mods.


The 350Z isn't the only thing out there that you should be worried about. Lots of sedans now have really impressive performance.
Then again...most A6 drivers won't be speeding through turns the way we do anyway. But let me just say that if you ever see one speeding by and you to catch up...don't be surprised when you can't.

the 2005 g35 coupe is actually not statistically any faster in 0-60 or quarter mile than before when it was 280hp. its just got stronger internals and higher redline at 7k rpm instead of 6500, better top end, at the cost of 10 lb-ft of torque. its faster on the track but dosnt show in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. The new 300hp Zs arnt faster than the old Zs either in straightline. just beware both Z/G has a much better pull up top now. FYI the 2005 G35 sedan 6mt is now also 298hp up from 260.

the 03-04 G35 has always been faster than the rx8 though, best mag 0-60 time from C&D is 5.5 seconds, and usually gets mid to high 5 seconds, while best for rx8 is 5.9 from C&D and usually gets low to mid 6 seconds from magazines. G35 coupe has better hp/weight ratio as well as torque/weight ratio. BMI drivers was able to take corners faster in the skyline than the rx8 in the rotory reborn video. I dont drive competitively, only for fun, so It means very little to me. as far as handling goes, I prefer the lighter feeling of the rx8 handling over the the heavier Z/G.

With mazda speed parts, the rx8 can corner much better competitively. The biggest weakness reguarding the rx8's already exceptional handling is due to the relatively softer suspension, which is prone to excess body roll during cornering. The stiffer mazdaspeed suspension really helps it a lot and takes the rx-8 to a whole new level at the expense of normal everyday driving comfort, which the stock rx-8 excels at over the Z and s2000. :) and for us regular people who dosnt drive around the track compeitively, everyday driving comfort is rather important.

the fact that a rx8 owner didnt get a s2k or EVO or STI and got the rx8 instead indicates that he/she values other things such as looks, refinement, utility over those hardcore performance machines. so why would you wanna go out there and race 350z or anything for that matter? I think street drag racing is kind of pointless. theres always someone faster and performs better out there. just drive your rx8 and have fun with it! :) otherwise get a cobra or something, because IMHO rx8 and 350z and g35 are all pretty slow in the straightline in terms of performance cars

Don't mean to rain on your parade but I find all that hard to believe.

Video of an RX8 against a Z :

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....5-DE191F5475AE

Even if the Z was 0.3 seconds slower, it will still put buslengths on the 8.