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Rotary_Redliner 08-28-2012 01:22 PM

2014 Mazda6 finally breaks cover..
 
2014 Mazda6 finally breaks cover in Moscow

Finally revealed at Moscow car show... and I think it looks fantastic ! Inside and out. Might need one to compliment the red RX8 :yumyum:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....zda6628opt.jpg

RIWWP 08-28-2012 01:30 PM

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Fantastic looking car!

Found some of the other pics interesting:

This one appears to 'confirm' (?) FWD only. At least, this is clearly FWD, but I don't think there is enough room in that slight exhaust tunnel to fit a driveshaft without more major modification that would complicate stuff with crash tests, etc...
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These two engine shots are really really close, but a few changes. Different engine sizes? or gas/diesel? :dunno: (oil pan flange and flywheel are the two differences I see)
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9krpmrx8 08-28-2012 01:44 PM

It's disappointing to me. I think it will be like the previous 6, it will look good in pics but look awkward in person. But the interior looks nice and I can see them selling well in it's segment.

MariesRX8 08-28-2012 01:53 PM

So the SKYACTIV-G 2.5 officially exists? Interesting...

zoom44 08-28-2012 02:03 PM

2.0 and 2.5 l gas engines from your pics pearl

zoom44 08-28-2012 02:11 PM

look how the line that starts just after the front wheel continues through the rear wheel bulge and around to the bumper

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....014-mazda6.jpg

RIWWP 08-28-2012 02:13 PM

Maybe I'm odd, or blind, or something...

But my friends just bashed it for looking like the 2001 Tiburon and 2012 Maxima, and inferior to both. :scared: :puke:

Sure, go ahead and dislike it, but THAT comparison?

zoom44 08-28-2012 02:14 PM

oh i just noticed too- the side mirrors are attached on the door and not to the corner of the window space as they have been for all models in recent years

oh- cx-5 side mirrors are on the sheet metal too

200.mph 08-28-2012 02:16 PM

not crazy about the grill but glad its nit smiling

zoom44 08-28-2012 02:16 PM

your friends are high.

zoom44 08-28-2012 02:23 PM

saw comments on autoblog trashing the "aftermarket" looking nav/display etc. so for years everyone has complained about the integrated AV stack that makes it hard to upgrade. Mazda puts in what looks like a standard double din which would be easy(easier anyway) to swap out and people complain about that.

RIWWP 08-28-2012 02:26 PM

Zoom,

The only happy people are the ones not bothering to comment :)

zoom44 08-28-2012 02:29 PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....014-mazda6.jpg

lesper4 08-28-2012 02:29 PM

I think the front end looks great and the back rear design is pretty nice but the middle looks like the old body design and is lacking a little bit of style to carry over besides the body line panel. Interior is very nice.

lesper4 08-28-2012 02:37 PM

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OK dont get me wrong, Mazda did an amazing job carrying over the design and staying true to the design intent but something is bothing me.
I think it is the fact the concept had a flatter chopped look to it more like the Karma Fisker.

fuztupnz 08-28-2012 02:38 PM

meh, it's got the stupid disconnected fender of the old one via the rx-8 that look completely out of place and more like a Ram truck than a sports car. I wish mazda would get away from that look since they've only pulled it off with the rx8 and have failed with all other attempts.

ASH8 08-28-2012 06:27 PM


ASH8 08-28-2012 06:39 PM

Dimensions (Preliminary data)
Body type Measure Sedan
Door 4
Seating capacity 5
Coefficient of drag * 0.26
Overall length without license plate holder mm 4,865
Overall width mm 1,840
Overall height mm 1,450
Wheelbase mm 2,830
Front mm 1,585 (17” tire)
Tread 1,595 (19” tire)
Rear mm 1,575 (17” tire)
1,585 (19” tire)
Volume all seats up to belt line * L 483
Load floor to 1st row * mm 1,961
Load floor to 2nd row * mm 1,190
*w/ spoiler


Engines (Preliminary data)
SKYACTIV-G 2.0 Petrol SKYACTIV-G 2.5 Petrol
Displacement cm3 2.0l 1,998 2.5l 2,488
Valves 16
Camshaft drive By Chain By Chain
Fuel injection system Direct injection Direct injection
Compression ratio 2.0l 14.0:1 2.5l 13.0:1
Max. power kW PS 2.0l 110 / 150 at 6,000 2.5l 141 / 192 at 5,700
Max. torque Nm/rpm 2.0l 210 at 4,000 2.5l 256 at 3,250
Recommended fuel type Above 95RON
Fuel tank capacity L 62
Brakes 297mm Front Vent Discs, 278mm Rear Solid Discs.
Powertrain FWD
Transmissions
2.0l SKYACTIV-DRIVE (6 speed automatic)
2.0l SKYACTIV-MT (6 speed manual)
2.5l SKYACTIV-DRIVE (6 speed automatic ONLY)
Wheels 17 x 7J, 17 x 7.5J, 19 x 7.5J
Tyres 225/55R17, 225/45R19.
Front suspension.... MacPherson Strut
Rear suspension..... Multilink
Steering type..... Rack and pinion
Kurb weight kg.... 1,340 - 1,410

ASH8 08-28-2012 06:53 PM

Comparing new Mazda 6 Vehicle Dimensions with Mazda RX-8.

Mazda 6 is..
110 mm Higher
395 mm Overall Longer
70 mm Overall Wider
130 mm longer Wheelbase
80-85 mm wider Track F/R

ASH8 08-28-2012 07:03 PM

MX-5/Miata mirrors are on sheet metal also :)

ASH8 08-28-2012 07:40 PM

'THE KINKS" for the launch music!!!...That fine British Rock band of the late 60's.."All day and All of the Night"...



ASH8 08-28-2012 07:52 PM

Note" to the MNAO "Marketing Guys"...'Team Mazda'.

Do this as your promotional launch, not some cheap ass, cheap gimmick (like Lorax and 6 Million Dollar CX-5 BS)..you can add class without trashing the brand, like you usually do.

THE ART OF EXHILARATION..now, there is a start.

ASH8 08-28-2012 08:35 PM

More quoted details..

Mazda6 program manager Hiroshi Kajiyama said the car “handles so well it seems to respond directly to the driver’s intentions rather than physical manipulations of the steering”.

“I can’t wait to see the look on the faces of the people getting out of the car after their first time behind the wheel of the new Mazda6,” he said.


Among technologies new to Mazda are automatic high-beam headlight control, directional headlights that move with the steering, and autonomous braking.

The latter uses a “near-infrared beam sensor” to detect an imminent collision and automatically brake the car in an emergency to avoid or mitigate an impact.

A rear-vehicle monitoring system warns the driver of fast-approaching vehicles from behind, while the Mazda6 also gains lane-departure warning.


Fuel consumption has been slashed by a huge 27 per cent according to the figures released in Moscow, down from the current 8.8 litres per 100km
for the current model with the old 2.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine to just 6.4L/100km for the new-generation engine of the same size.

LiTTleRX-8 08-28-2012 08:47 PM

Love the new Kodo design philosophy. Cannot wait to see the Kodo MX-5, Mazda 3, and RX-?.

Not too fond of the red/orange color though, give me winning blue back please...

MariesRX8 08-28-2012 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4337902)
a “near-infrared beam sensor” to detect an imminent collision and automatically brake the car in an emergency to avoid or mitigate an impact.

while the Mazda6 also gains lane-departure warning.

I don't know if we'll get those goodies in the states. Doesn't the CX-5 have them now outside the States? We don't have them.

We don't get that little Control Knob on the center console with the CX-5 either, though other markets do I think.

LiTTleRX-8 08-28-2012 09:01 PM

I got really bored so I made a winning blue one just the way I want!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...29356744_n.jpg

Current M6 has a blue like this that I like too...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...72405463_n.jpg

Galaxy grey??
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...18888811_n.jpg

zoom44 08-28-2012 10:29 PM

thats over 36 mpg us gallons

RXeligion 08-28-2012 10:38 PM

Someone really paid attention to the aerodynamics under the car. It's beautiful under there. Makes you feel like you're looking up a skirt.:SHOCKED:

77mjd 08-28-2012 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4337817)
Dimensions (Preliminary data)

Kurb weight kg.... 1,340 - 1,410



That's roughly 3000-3100 lbs. I find that hard to believe.

RIWWP 08-28-2012 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 4337950)
thats over 36 mpg us gallons

Yeah, about what I expected, since you can get superior aero from a sedan than you can from an SUV


Originally Posted by 77mjd (Post 4337960)
That's roughly 3000-3100 lbs. I find that hard to believe.

Why? Take a look at the weight of the CX-5. 3,200lbs. Hard to believe a sedan can get lower than an SUV?

Mazda is getting serious about this weight thing.

ASH8 08-29-2012 02:35 PM

Just remember this car is BIG!,well over 4 metres long, almost 5...or almost as long as a CX-9.

Or to give my US mates an idea...it is not much smaller than the Aussie made Pontiac G8, or Holden Commodore...it is less than 3 inches in either direction.

4903 mm G8 Long...4865 mm for new 6
1899 mm G8 Wide...1840 mm for new 6
1471 mm G8 High...1450 mm for new 6

ASH8 08-29-2012 03:03 PM

interior
 
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interior...

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1346270579

SayNoToPistons 08-29-2012 03:15 PM

Power passenger seat in a Mazda sedan? Oh yes, its been a while.

Mazmart 08-29-2012 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4338542)
Just remember this car is BIG!,well over 4 metres long, almost 5...or almost as long as a CX-9.

Or to give my US mates an idea...it is not much smaller than the Aussie made Pontiac G8, or Holden Commodore...it is less than 3 inches in either direction.

4903 mm G8 Long...4865 mm for new 6
1899 mm G8 Wide...1840 mm for new 6
1471 mm G8 High...1450 mm for new 6

Better yet, and thanks for your numbers, I will compare the new to the outgoing US version:

4865 mm 2014...4920 mm 2013 US LENGTH
1840 mm 2014...1839 mm 2013 US WIDTH
1450 mm 2014...1470 mm 2013 US HEIGHT

It is a little smaller than the old US in length and height, while width is about the same.

Paul.

RIWWP 08-29-2012 04:59 PM

1 inch = 25.4mm, so that is 55mm (~2.1 inches) shorter length, 20mm (~0.8 inches) lower roofline

Mazmart 08-29-2012 05:56 PM

Wheelbase has increased from 2789 mm to 2830 mm for 2014 as well.

Paul.

zoom44 08-29-2012 06:46 PM

longer wheel base and shorter outside = smaller car with larger inside:)

nycgps 08-29-2012 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4337873)
Note" to the MNAO "Marketing Guys"...'Team Mazda'.

Do this as your promotional launch, not some cheap ass, cheap gimmick (like Lorax and 6 Million Dollar CX-5 BS)..you can add class without trashing the brand, like you usually do.

THE ART OF EXHILARATION..now, there is a start.

forget it man, no hope for Mazda's marketing team ...

like I said, they just need to fired all of them and hired me instead. I am sure I know who and how to market Mazda.

ASH8 08-29-2012 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4338831)
forget it man, no hope for Mazda's marketing team ...

like I said, they just need to fired all of them and hired me instead. I am sure I know who and how to market Mazda.

:ylsuper::SHOCKED:

LOL...yeah man, what the hell do these guys see when they look at the TV re-brief and slots BEFORE they get the final GO! to screen!!...:scratchhe

ASH8 08-30-2012 05:43 AM

Mazda 6 COUPE being considered!!
 
BTW: Mazda are 'considering' and AWD Turbo Version of MPS (Mazdaspeed).


Speaking at the Moscow Motor Show, chief designer Akira Tamatani confirmed a coupe is under consideration. He told Autocar, "There is no decision, but I would love to make one." Tamatani added, "The first job is to make the saloon and estate, but from this position a coupe is not so far away."

Program manager Hiroshi Kajiyama also revealed the company is evaluating an all-wheel drive system. He told the magazine, "There are no set plans, but we are studying the possibility of introducing all-wheel drive - it would be a good weapon with which to establish the brand."

In another interview, Kajiyama said a high-performance Mazda6 is also being considered. He declined to go into specifics, but indicated the model could be lighter than the standard car.

RIWWP 08-30-2012 06:13 AM

But the diesel will have turbo's ? :D:

MattMPS 08-30-2012 06:38 AM

nice car...note the steering wheel with palette (correct in english?) for gear-changing

this car seems very driver-oriented for a midsize sedan.

BTW i'm waiting for the wagon

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1...a6sedan382.jpg

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TALAN7 08-30-2012 10:20 AM

interior looks nice, upscale even. Finally, they get it right. Still I think they tamed it down too much on the outside.

Bladecutter 08-30-2012 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by ASH8 (Post 4337817)
Dimensions (Preliminary data)

2.5l SKYACTIV-DRIVE (6 speed automatic ONLY)


NOOOooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

Damnit.

BC
.

zoom44 08-30-2012 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by MattMPS (Post 4338933)
palette (correct in english?) for gear-changing

we say paddle.

Bladecutter 08-30-2012 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4338831)
forget it man, no hope for Mazda's marketing team ...

like I said, they just need to fired all of them and hired me instead. I am sure I know who and how to market Mazda.

I still think you'd just create a bunch of commercials that tell people if they buy a Camry instead of a 6, they are a friggin' moron.

Not that you would be wrong, just that I don't think you wouldn't really be the right choice for marketing a company like Mazda.

I think the right direction would be to create a series of commercials, each one targeting a specific customer segment that buys these large family cars, and state the reason why this car beats all of its competitors in that one point.

You have one commercial that says we beat the Camry, Malibu, Accord, and Altima for fuel economy in one commercial. You can drive from Denver to Las Vegas in one tank.

Then the next commercial says that the car is more comfortable for your commute than the Camry, Accord, Altima, Sonata, and Malibu, and show it soaking up both pothole ridden streets, and smooth open highway roads with a major city in the coming distance.

The next commercial would be about handling. It beats the Accord, Altima, Sonata, Camry, Malibu not only while going grocery shopping, but while tearing up the mountains, and if life leads you onto a roadcourse race track. Cue footage of it tearing up Laguna Seca, Miller Raceway, HPR, NHIS, and Road Atlanta, with a full load of groceries in the trunk.

And then, if you really want to go over the top, say that anyone who buys the 6 between release date and December 31st gets free warranty and maintenance plan upgrades, to then have the best in class warranty, beating Hyundai's warranty, for up to 120k powertrain, and 60k bumper to bumper. Free oil changes for 50k.

That would be the way to properly market the new 6, but that's just my opinion.

Better than calling prospective customers idiots if they buy a Camry, anyway.

BC.

RIWWP 08-30-2012 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Bladecutter (Post 4339157)
I still think you'd just create a bunch of commercials that tell people if they buy a Camry instead of a 6, they are a friggin' moron.

Not that you would be wrong, just that I don't think you wouldn't really be the right choice for marketing a company like Mazda.

:lol:

NYCGPS would probably go off on a rant about oil viscosity, synthetics, and what Mazda did wrong with the Renesis :)


Only those of us here would understand his brilliance :sad:

scorcherjf 08-30-2012 11:18 AM

Wow the car actually likes quite nice (interior and exterior) and I've never been a fan of mazda's interiors... maybe this will be a pleasant surprise. Also the curb weight coming in at a bit over 3000 lbs for a car that's the size of a 5 series makes the 8 seem like a boat in comparison!

usnidc 08-30-2012 11:55 AM

All-New Mazda6 to Make its Global Debut at the 2012 Moscow Motor Show - YouTube

MattMPS 08-30-2012 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 4339153)
we say paddle.

ah, yes...sorry....paddles..;)

noto so happy about the 2.5 only AT, but paddles means "sporty usability" IMHO...;)


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