playdoh43

theres no official announcement yet, but there has been many interviews with people from Nissan in Japan including Carlos Ghosen him self that shed light on the subject. but yeah, well know some facts soon enough.

mike1324a

I thaught i read something about info or a new concept at the 05 tokyo auto show in october, but i might be mistaken

Saint_Spinner

Asked my friend (car designer) over at Nissan's California Design Center (la jolla)....release USDM date is '07 as an '08 model.

SHOWOFF

I come. Do you want me? :D

mikeb

its not the same man^^^^^'

I want a skyline badly

RX-Hachi

As you own a G35, I'm sure you've been following the development of this car much closer than I have. I'll be the first to say I'm no expert on the new GT-R, but I'm waiting with high interest and anticipation.

Back in the early 90's, when I owned my FD RX-7, I first caught notice of the GT-R. Back then it was the BNR32. To me, it seemed more like a competitor for an M3. (It had the e30 M3's side fender buldges and a similar rear wing.) I've watched it develop into the R33 and vividly recall seeing a new R34 GT-R displayed at Tokyo's Narita Airport in '99. I drooled long and hard at the car in the airport, wishing it would some day come to the US. But all the while, my view of the car was more of an M3 alternative. Being an M3 owner in the late '90's and early 2000's, I pondered then if I would want an R34 over an E46 M3. It wasn't until later, with the very special editions, that the GT-R's performance and price went insane.

So when the new GT-R does hit our US shores, it will be interesting to see if they start with supercar league performance or start with something that competes with say the 911 S, M5 or even the future E90 M3/M4 in terms of performance. My guess is a normal variant and then later a special version to kill 911 Turbos, but who knows.

The current price guessing by the car mags seems to be an inflation driven projection based on the previous gen's Yen pricing in Japan, rather than what Nissan's real market strategy might be for the new car in the US. The GT-R can command such a price in Japan because it is a huge legend there, I'm not sure if the same can be said in the US.

Steiner

There has been speculation, but nothing has been confirmed by Nissan. The big international auto shows take place in Geneva, New York and Tokyo IIRC. Geneva is the most prestigious, but many people believe it would be a kick in the teeth for Nissan to debut the next generation of a Japanese icon at a European event. That's why next month's Tokyo show is where most following the next Skyline expect to have their first real glimpse.

As far as engine choices...it's all speculation again. Even if Nissan debuts the new Skyline at Tokyo, there's no gaurantee that the engine they debut will find its way into the production version. Moreover, the body design itself could change slightly between now and the release. Bottom line is it's just too early to know anything. I'm dying like the rest of the car community, but these threads are all over the place and are based on nothing but 2nd hand conjecture.

Saint_Spinner

I don't know dude...look what Acura pulled off in 1990. $65K 14 years ago wasn't cheap, and it certainly aint cheap today either. I think a $70-$80K infiniti will probably do just as well or even better than the NSX did back then.

And Acura went straight for the jugulars...they weren't competing against 911 or M3's...they went straight for Ferrrari. No one even heard of Acura back then....

RX-Hachi

Yah, you have a point. I recall the arrival of the NSX very well, damn it I'm feeling old. Honda/Acura doesn't sell very many, but they don't care, it's their halo car. But what the NSX had that none of the GT-Rs have had to date, is a super sexy body (IMO), that looked like a Ferrari. It was also a separate chassis, built for a single minded purpose. The GT-Rs to date have all looked like, well, Skylines. If not for the performance, the looks really weren't that special.

So if the new GT-R looks more or less like a G35 on steroid drugs, it won't be enough for me. However, as I said before, if the looks are an absolute knockout, then a $70K+ price tag might be ok (assuming that the performance will be there).

Saint_Spinner

LOL, yeah you got a point as well regarding looks. :p To alot of car guys, the skyline looks "cool/mean" it means business...but to the majority of the public, especially ladies, it looks like crap...in other words, a large beefier two-door EVO or STI. :D :D And since the GT-R is going to be marketed world wide, they are def. taking its design into a more "eye pleasing" field without losing any of its testosterone.

Gord96BRG

I skimmed this thread, and didn't see this clarified before - the previous Skyline GTRs were tuned versions of the Skyline model line (available in Japan and elsewhere), with different models offering different performance levels and drivetrain configurations (RWD, FWD, and of course AWD, depending on the version and generation).

Currently, there IS a Skyline sold in Japan, they just don't have a GTR version of this current Skyline yet. The current Skyline in Japan IS currently sold here in North America - it's known as the Infiniti G35 Coupe. Yes, the G35C IS a Skyline already! So when Nissan updates the Skyline range with the next generation, and adds a GTR model to that range, it's reasonable to assume that the Infiniti replacement for the G35C will continue to be one of the Skyline models. I would expect some resemblance between the regular Skylines and the GTR...

playdoh43

i think u miss understood RX Renesis, hes aware of what ure saying.

Shiri

Gord is right to a certain extent. There are no FWD Skylines (except for the Stagea-Skyline converted cars which were not sold officially by Nissan).

The GTR series all share the same remarkable twin turbo RB26 engines, every thing else used the non-turbo or single turbo RB20 or RB26.

Current Skylines are the one's sold as the Infinity G35c in the US. The latest GTR is set to retain similar designs to previous versions because it is a hardcore race car. It is set to come out in this year's car show at Makuhari Messe in Chiba Japan - 15 minutes by bicycle from my place :D

None of the Skylines have problems attracting attention, it is after all Japan's trademark car

RENESIS_NEENJA

hey guys heres a good site with quite a bit of information regarding the new concepts and things www.7tune.com , im sure its nothing you all haven't seen before but some decent info....

RX-Hachi

Thanks for the website, some interesting tidbits there. But I sure hope the next GT-R doesn't look like the images shown. If it does, I'll be very disappointed. The back end looks promising, but the font needs a total re-work. And I hate to say it, but there's hints of RX-8 styling in the front fender and c-pillar.

Shiri

RENESIS_NEENJA

agreed....The back is beautiful I think but the front needs MAJOR work....ewww..if you browse through the forums you can find even more concepts..some of which actually aren't too bad..

StealthFox

the rear end looks sick, but the rear end of the LF-A still looks the best of the upcoming japanese supercars(supra, lfa, gtr, and nsx replacement/hsc whatever)

Y&Y

If the r35 does come out as an V6 I wouldn't want it as much. Since V6's design is great for saving space in the engine bay, its not that great when it comes to engine balance. You would have to maintain that engine more often. Where as the inline 6 would have better balance. I bet if you look at the engines of all the fast cars, that most of them would be either a boxster or an inline design.

Steiner

You sound like a Porsche and BMW fan. Both BMW's legendary inline 6 and Porsche's boxers are great engines, but there are a ton of V6, V8, V10 and V12 engines hooked up to legendary performers. The Buick Grand National, NSX, Corvette, Viper and a whole bunch of Ferraris and Lamborghinis come to mind.

If it's between a boxer 6 and an inline 6 I would take the inline every time. I love the sound of a boxer and the torque down low, but there is lots of exhaust piping on those motors compared to a V or inline motor. That exhuast piping generates increased back pressure and, consequently, improved torque in a NA setup. On a boxer turbo setup it's tough to see the otherwordly numbers attainable on a comprably sized inline or V model motor because all that exhaust piping inhibits peak numbers and linearity of acceleration.

Japan8

Isn't BMW even giving up the good 'ol inline-6 for the next M3?

There have been spy pics in JDM mags of the development mules... all built on a modded Skyline/G35C platform (fender flares, large air dam with oil cooler openings...). What's under the hood... it's been said to be the VQ by ALL mags. Either 3.2 or 3.5L with twin turbos. Guesses are at about 450hp. There is word of electric assist. Everyone would like AWD, but they worry about the weight... which some think may kill it. If it does make it there has been word of using hybrid technology similar to Toyota's SUV. What the final specs will be are a mystery...

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2

Bump for PDXhak

moRotorMotor

The 2008 Nissan Skyline will be sooooooo awesome!

hoosier1104

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Holy dead thread Batman!

Mazdaspeed RX8 ver2

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