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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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11k redline, when do i shift

whats up guys. I finally got my gs500f. Its a ton of fun to drive and im starting to get used to it. Very addicting!!!. I just have a question. The bike reldines at 11k. Where should i shift during normal acceleration??. When should i shift when speeding??. And around what rpm should i cruise in. Thanks alot

oh, and one more thing. One thing i do not want to do is fall of because of the clutch misuse. The guy that sold it to me told me to 1.let go of the gas 2.press the clutch. 3 shift 4.LET GO OF THE CLUTCH 5. give it gas again. HE said that if i gave it gas while shifting, the bike would pop a wheelie and i could fall back. Is this true??
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Sounds logical. It's like applying gas when you shift in a manual car. You don't want to be applying a whole lot of throttle before you release the clutch. The effect is magnified when you are on a bike.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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does the owners manual give any shifting tips?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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the guy that sold it to me does not have a manual.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Wonder why people buy stuff they don't know how to use beforehand???
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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shift at 12k haaa
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scottmhr1
Wonder why people buy stuff they don't know how to use beforehand???
That kind of an odd statement. Did you know how to drive a standard before actually buying a manual transmission vehicle?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by moRotorMotor
That kind of an odd statement. Did you know how to drive a standard before actually buying a manual transmission vehicle?
Yes.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Yes.
Flawlessly the first time? I doubt it. If you did, then you really ARE a God haha . It was a bad example anyways. I think a better one would be learning to ride a bike. No human can hop onto a bicycle for the very first time and know how to ride. It's not normal unless you are rotarygod.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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for those who don't know a gs500 is a good starter bike, so many people who own them could quite possibly not know all the finer points of shifting.

That being said, RX8gurl how do you like the bike? I think for shift points its probably best to shift according to your speed and not your RPM. You'll probably be tagging the 8k range or something.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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hi. I know how to drvie a stick car. I am learining how to drive a morotrcycle, hence the question. Just wondering if its almost the same thing as cars. I love the bike, its very fun to drive, just looking for some advice. And to the all loser posting and not helping, get a life and let people who are trying to help me learn post. thank you
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:20 AM
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It's not terribly different, but you have to be careful. If you give it too much gas you could wheelie. Not a bad thing, unless you're learning. You'll probably end up shifting around 7-9K. Like Catspaw said, watch your speed. I'd guess you'd want to cruise around 3-5K but I'm not sure.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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not sure,
but a zuki, gs 500 does not redline at 11k. look at the gauges. maybe a msf course???????

skin is a terrible thing to waste!!!!! why do you ask this here??????

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by moRotorMotor
Flawlessly the first time? I doubt it. If you did, then you really ARE a God haha . It was a bad example anyways. I think a better one would be learning to ride a bike. No human can hop onto a bicycle for the very first time and know how to ride. It's not normal unless you are rotarygod.
My dad taught me how to drive a standard in my grandpa's truck when I was 13. It was out in the country in Iowa. There wasn't much to hit but it was hilly and on gravel roads. He showed me what to do and explained it to me. Then I switched seats and just drove off. Didn't stall it or anything. Even started from a stop sign on an incline without rolling backwards or stalling. He was pleasantly surprised to say the least. My friend Chad was the same way with cars. I thought driving a stick was easy. The first couple of cars I drove after I turned 16 were autos. My first standard was a Ford truck when I was 17. I had learned how to do it 4 years earlier in Iowa and never forgot. I also hadn't driven a standard again since that one time. Once again dad just explained it to me verbally. Got in and drove off. I did admittedly slip the clutch more than I needed to a little bit for a while until I got really good at it but otherwise it was easy.

When I was a kid I did have training wheels for a while like the other kids. When it was time to take them off I was scared. My dad held onto the seat and ran me back and forth down the street a few times so I could get used to no training wheels being there. Then he let go and I didn't realize it. He was always holding onto the back of the seat out of direct eyesight. I rode all the way down the street and stopped. No dad. He was more scared than I was! I was excited that he didn't help me get there which gave me confidence. I rode back to him and that was the end of that. I could ride. Yes I fell down alot as a kid but who didn't back then. My little oriental mom contributed to me falling alot though. Apparently she's not too gifted when it comes to understanding the laws of physics. I usually fell in corners. At first my only speed was full too so that probably didn't help. Her logic was that if I was falling in corners if was because I was leaning over. She told me not to lean. Myself at that age also not knowing anything about physics thought this made sense so I tried not to lean. I kept falling over. Surprise! Once I figured out that leaning is important to staying upright in a corner I never really had any more issues. Thanks mom! Learning to ride a bike was pretty easy once I got past my mom's very flawed advice. I just listened too well. Maybe I'm just gifted in those areas. I don't know. I did try to teach my girlfriend how to drive a standard and all she got good at was stalling it or burning off my tires! She's too scared and that's the biggest hurdle to overcome. When she relaxes she can actually do it.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
not sure,
but a zuki, gs 500 does not redline at 11k. look at the gauges.


To my knoweldge the GS500 does indeed redline at 11k.

One thing you do really have to be careful about is your throttle modulation. Like your friend said, if you give it to much gas while you're clutched you can easily hop up on the rear wheel. From a stand still you'll probably throw yourself off the bike yes

The 500f is the one with the aero-flare fairings right? I liked the older models (E) for a beginning bike because if you dropped it you wouldn't have to spend so much money on repairs. All in all the 500 is a really awesome bike, has plenty of power and potential to last you for at least a year or two, but then you'll probably be bitten by the Ducati bug
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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thanks alot guys, and yes i kno what redlining means, and yes it does redline at 11k.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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My dad taught me how to drive a standard in my grandpa's truck when I was 13. It was out in the country in Iowa. There wasn't much to hit but it was hilly and on gravel roads. He showed me what to do and explained it to me. Then I switched seats and just drove off. Didn't stall it or anything. Even started from a stop sign on an incline without rolling backwards or stalling. He was pleasantly surprised to say the least. My friend Chad was the same way with cars. I thought driving a stick was easy. The first couple of cars I drove after I turned 16 were autos. My first standard was a Ford truck when I was 17. I had learned how to do it 4 years earlier in Iowa and never forgot. I also hadn't driven a standard again since that one time. Once again dad just explained it to me verbally. Got in and drove off. I did admittedly slip the clutch more than I needed to a little bit for a while until I got really good at it but otherwise it was easy.

When I was a kid I did have training wheels for a while like the other kids. When it was time to take them off I was scared. My dad held onto the seat and ran me back and forth down the street a few times so I could get used to no training wheels being there. Then he let go and I didn't realize it. He was always holding onto the back of the seat out of direct eyesight. I rode all the way down the street and stopped. No dad. He was more scared than I was! I was excited that he didn't help me get there which gave me confidence. I rode back to him and that was the end of that. I could ride. Yes I fell down alot as a kid but who didn't back then. My little oriental mom contributed to me falling alot though. Apparently she's not too gifted when it comes to understanding the laws of physics. I usually fell in corners. At first my only speed was full too so that probably didn't help. Her logic was that if I was falling in corners if was because I was leaning over. She told me not to lean. Myself at that age also not knowing anything about physics thought this made sense so I tried not to lean. I kept falling over. Surprise! Once I figured out that leaning is important to staying upright in a corner I never really had any more issues. Thanks mom! Learning to ride a bike was pretty easy once I got past my mom's very flawed advice. I just listened too well. Maybe I'm just gifted in those areas. I don't know. I did try to teach my girlfriend how to drive a standard and all she got good at was stalling it or burning off my tires! She's too scared and that's the biggest hurdle to overcome. When she relaxes she can actually do it.
when I was in my mothers tummy, I learnt how to drive stick. The doctor injected lego nanobots and I made my first rotary vehicle that was of course 5spd(I ended up swapping it for a 6spd but that's a whole other story). anyways, back to my story. It took months for me to build my rotary car in my mothers tummy as the peices were microscopic and I had no tools. I built it with my bare hands. After I had completed, I simply taught myself how to drive stick. well not really but I learnt telepathically from dad. He was a great teacher and was suprised that I didn't stall while spinning in my mothers tummy. Btw, it was running on alcohol and beans. my mom used to gargle with mouthwash and I collected enough residue to fill up my car. The beans well, she was pregnent. I used the exhaust gasses from the beans and mixed it with the alcohol. It ran great but had a foul smell. The funny part of all this is when she was giving birth and I just put it in first with my foot on the clutch. I then mashed the gas and let off halfway on the clutch. Lets just say that I broke my own umbilical cord. My parents immidiately bought me a 250cc shifter kart and I was also enrolled in the gifted nursery program at Havard. It was clear that I was gifted especially after I performed my own circumcision.......Again that is a whole other story. pm me for details.


BTW Nice treadjack RG......

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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With a range like that, I'd say shift whenever the hell you want to!

More seriously, one difference does spring to mind in terms of shifting a motorcycle vs. a car: you want to avoid shifting in a turn. Rather similar, really, to the whole don't-brake-in-a-turn thing. So try to be in the right gear before you enter the turn.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by moRotorMotor
That kind of an odd statement. Did you know how to drive a standard before actually buying a manual transmission vehicle?
yes. rx8 is my first MT vehicle, but when i was growing up, my dad had a 5speed blazer, and he thought it was very important to know how to drive a stick, because you never know when you might end up in a situation and need to drive one.

so he tought me how to drive it. and i drove it a bit through highschool. then i didn't drive a mt car for a 3 or 4 years, until i had to drive home from the bars in a friends car, and i was the only one in the group that knew how to drive a stick (besides the drunk one). then it was another few years before i drove a stick again...it was a c6 vette at a gm event similar to zoom zoom live. then i bought my rx8. so yes, i did know how to drive a stick before buying a MT vehicle.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
BTW Nice treadjack RG......
lol that's what I'm here for.
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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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RotaryGod's first time story reminded me of this poem:

My First Time



The sky was dark
The moon was high
All alone
Just her and I
Her hair so soft
Her eyes so blue
I knew just what
She wanted to do
Her skin so soft
Her legs so fine
I ran my fingers
Down her spine
I didn't know how
But I tried my best
To place my hand
On her breasts
I remember my fear
My fast beating heart
But slowly she spread

Her legs apart
And when she did it
I felt no shame
All at once
The white stuff came
At last it's finished
It's all over now
My first time
Milking a cow!
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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That's a great poem.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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\ I have a 600r redlines at 13.5k, I shift at 6-7k and cruise at 5-6k.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Krankor
More seriously, one difference does spring to mind in terms of shifting a motorcycle vs. a car: you want to avoid shifting in a turn. Rather similar, really, to the whole don't-brake-in-a-turn thing. So try to be in the right gear before you enter the turn.

You don't want to shift a rwd car in a turn either. It can get all kinds of hairy if you do.
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by therm8
You don't want to shift a rwd car in a turn either. It can get all kinds of hairy if you do.
Hey, I didn't know that! (last time I had a rwd car, it was when I was still driving automatics). Thanks, therm8!
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