05-rx8 vs 06-evo9
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Originally Posted by Steiner
BTW...If you get your rocks off from coworkers admiring your (father's) car then you should have saved your money and bought a BMW 3 series, not an RX-8. I buy cars for myself, not for others.
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Originally Posted by Machan
Actually, the 3 series is a great drivers car. I own two of them so don't hate on them. The smooth power delivery of their inline 6s is truly remarkable. You'd be suprised how many BMW owners are also car enthusiasts.
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Originally Posted by salituro64
I was editing the post and when finished, your response was there. The fact of the matter remains that the Evo was taken from the Lancer (the cheapest car Mitsubishi makes), they put in a beefy engine and modified the suspension, but the car is still a Lancer. The RX8 was designed to be the Rx8 it was not retrofitted from another model. Maybe it's my age, but the only people I see into the Evo or STI are teenagers and young adults.
I have a buddy with an STI and he is always talking about how fast it is and how he can beat this one and that one (because it's all he can say about the car). But when we are both in the parking lot at work, guess which one everyone is in awe about...The RX8. I don't want to get into a pissing match, but the original post asked a question so I gave my response.
RX8 over the Evo, STI, 350Z, Mustang…the list goes on and on and I don’t care which one is faster in the ¼ mile. When the time is right I will get a corvette, but until then in this price range there is nothing that compare in style, performance and ammenities to the RX8.
I have a buddy with an STI and he is always talking about how fast it is and how he can beat this one and that one (because it's all he can say about the car). But when we are both in the parking lot at work, guess which one everyone is in awe about...The RX8. I don't want to get into a pissing match, but the original post asked a question so I gave my response.
RX8 over the Evo, STI, 350Z, Mustang…the list goes on and on and I don’t care which one is faster in the ¼ mile. When the time is right I will get a corvette, but until then in this price range there is nothing that compare in style, performance and ammenities to the RX8.
As far as your observation of who is into the Evo that would be false! The day I purchased my Evo there was a man who was at least 60 years old buying a red one! They did those polls on Evolutionm.net to see the ages of owners and they are just as diversified in ages as the RX-8 owners. Had mine at 29 years old (maybe a young adult but deep enough in adulthood)!
My intention is not to argue with you but rather inform you! You are entitled to your opinion but I just think some of your views are a little off about what the car and it's owners are about!
#54
Originally Posted by timmyx1
here is my problem i have exaclty 19500 saved from my new car including my payed off trade in. i have been saving for about a year now.
I have loved rotories since i was in high school and wanted a 2nd gen rx-7 turbo 2
but then fell in love with evo5s up till evo8s
i cant decide what to do anymore get an 05 rx8 at the end of the season to get a great deal on it, or wait until the 06 evo9s come out that increase the trubo size added mivec (variable valve timing for those not knowleged about mitsu,) leather interior standerard 6pd manual standard on gsr as well as the bilstien suspension from the evo mrs.
obviosly there is a significant price difference being that the o6 evo will go for at least 3500 and u can get an 05 rx8 with touring package after rebaits at the end of the year for around 28000.
the hp numbers for the 06 evo9 where tested at 280 a small increase but offers better acceleration in low to high rpms do to mivec.
rx8 we all know the numbers here.
for 7000 i could easily get ssrs turbo kit and have money left over to spend. but im thinking after the turbo kit what is the performance gap between them going to look like. its rwd vs awd but the rx8 is very well balanced.
im at a stand still what do u guys think. in an unbiased opinion.
I have loved rotories since i was in high school and wanted a 2nd gen rx-7 turbo 2
but then fell in love with evo5s up till evo8s
i cant decide what to do anymore get an 05 rx8 at the end of the season to get a great deal on it, or wait until the 06 evo9s come out that increase the trubo size added mivec (variable valve timing for those not knowleged about mitsu,) leather interior standerard 6pd manual standard on gsr as well as the bilstien suspension from the evo mrs.
obviosly there is a significant price difference being that the o6 evo will go for at least 3500 and u can get an 05 rx8 with touring package after rebaits at the end of the year for around 28000.
the hp numbers for the 06 evo9 where tested at 280 a small increase but offers better acceleration in low to high rpms do to mivec.
rx8 we all know the numbers here.
for 7000 i could easily get ssrs turbo kit and have money left over to spend. but im thinking after the turbo kit what is the performance gap between them going to look like. its rwd vs awd but the rx8 is very well balanced.
im at a stand still what do u guys think. in an unbiased opinion.
Go with what YOU want and don't worry about what other people say.
With the EVO, you get a car that's been through a number of versions already, that's an accumulation of all the good things from the older models being put into the newer ones.
Same body type as the Lancer? Not as bad as you think, parts would be easier to come by and would be cheaper, would help especially if you track the car a lot. They are not the same cars, but they are not that different either. Nothing wrong with sharing parts if it means more choices for replacements. RX8 doesn't have much aftermarket parts out there and I would assume parts would be expensive (our Mazda 626 wagon was pretty expensive to repair).
Tuning and modifications? EVO without a doubt, it was designed to be a fast and great handling car out of the box. Modifying it would make it a terror on the track/streets. Tuning an RX8 may get you good results, but not great and you'll be spending a lot just to reach the basic level of the EVO. For speed, handling and addiction to driving get the EVO, for comfort and fun get the RX8.
Space? Room? Go with the EVO. Its got 4 full size doors, meaning that it won't be cramp like the RX8. Its got a decent size boot as well. Fabulous for those who wants an all in one do everything type of car.
Basically if you're young, not quite rich enough to get the latest sports cars, but want to enjoy sports cars anyway (why wait?), the early EVOs/WRXs would make plenty of people happy. It becomes a hobby for some when modifying these cars because its so easy to do. I get the feeling that you're after performance than cosmetics.
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Looks my a$$, that car is a box with an engine and there is nothing anyone can say that will change that. A cheap car with an expensive engine. They should put that engine and suspension on the Eclipse which has a slight chance of being a performer if they get rid of the FWD.
I think the EVO 6 has most shared parts with the equv Lancer. But EVO 8, I think, only have the same boot as the basic Lancer.
Anyway, tuning an EVO is really cheaper than the RX-8, since every single mod company has a go and it is so competitive as RX-8.
People see RX-8 a luxury sport car, in the league of RX-7s, Z33s (350Z), and Skyline GTRs. EVO is not dirt cheap but the exhaust for example is about 10000 yen cheaper.
That is why it is seen as a boy racer car.
If you are early 20s, you will be silly driving an RX-8 (obviously an old man's car)
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Originally Posted by jsh1120
Timmy,
You're an EVO guy if I ever saw one.
You're an EVO guy if I ever saw one.
i knew i wasnt going to get an unbaised opinion here but i kinda wanted to see what the rx8 owners had to say about their car vs the evo...
so far all i have seen is it looks better.
anyway how many of u rx8 owners have atually test drove an evo? they are an amazing car to drive especially the evo mr the difference in suspension on that car really makes a difference in ride comfort.
but also i might say in my test drive of an rx8 and my friends the car is a really great car as well. just lacking in the power department..
i have been looking for good condition FDs with low mileage but those dont come by very often.
as of now its my original love for rotaries that have me leaning towards the rx8 but then i would love to own an awd monster...
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
I already made my feelings noted. The Rx8 is above average, I don't own any of your above listed cars either. It is a good looking car, but far far from a Master piece.
This is a Master piece of automotive design.
This is a Master piece of automotive design.
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I guess it's a great example of looks being subjective, then. I thought you might be kidding
If you're a Family Guy fan, do you remember the episode where Peter found out that Chris had a huge *****? Then he went out and bought that sports car, which looked *surprisingly* like the picture you posted.
If you're a Family Guy fan, do you remember the episode where Peter found out that Chris had a huge *****? Then he went out and bought that sports car, which looked *surprisingly* like the picture you posted.
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Originally Posted by timmyx1
:D thats nice but i am actually a huge fan of rotaries i just wish the rx8 had been in the us a bit longer so that after market parts and up grades would be easier and cheaper to obtain.
i knew i wasnt going to get an unbaised opinion here but i kinda wanted to see what the rx8 owners had to say about their car vs the evo...
so far all i have seen is it looks better.
anyway how many of u rx8 owners have atually test drove an evo? they are an amazing car to drive especially the evo mr the difference in suspension on that car really makes a difference in ride comfort.
but also i might say in my test drive of an rx8 and my friends the car is a really great car as well. just lacking in the power department..
i have been looking for good condition FDs with low mileage but those dont come by very often.
as of now its my original love for rotaries that have me leaning towards the rx8 but then i would love to own an awd monster...
i knew i wasnt going to get an unbaised opinion here but i kinda wanted to see what the rx8 owners had to say about their car vs the evo...
so far all i have seen is it looks better.
anyway how many of u rx8 owners have atually test drove an evo? they are an amazing car to drive especially the evo mr the difference in suspension on that car really makes a difference in ride comfort.
but also i might say in my test drive of an rx8 and my friends the car is a really great car as well. just lacking in the power department..
i have been looking for good condition FDs with low mileage but those dont come by very often.
as of now its my original love for rotaries that have me leaning towards the rx8 but then i would love to own an awd monster...
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haha, that was a good episode!
FWIW, the car is widely regarded as one of the most beautiful ever penned.
here is a more ***** looking car for you, and yes I think it is gorgeous, and yes I am very straight :D and another gorgeous car the xk120.
FWIW, the car is widely regarded as one of the most beautiful ever penned.
here is a more ***** looking car for you, and yes I think it is gorgeous, and yes I am very straight :D and another gorgeous car the xk120.
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Hey salituro64...does the RX-8 belong to you or your father? I'd hate to think anybody that could afford an RX-8 and considers themself a car guy could be so close-minded and misinformed. I could write a short novel and it wouldn't be long enough to outline the history, engineering, and evolution of the Evo line. Remember that the Evo VIII is the 8th incarnation of the series. The Lancer platform is simply the current vessel for the Evo nameplate. Mitsubishi's replacement compact for the Lancer will likely fill the same role.
The Evo is a car built for driving purists. It's a niche market. On the other hand the RX-8 incorporates a better balance of performance, creature comforts, original styling and daily driveability.
BTW...If you get your rocks off from coworkers admiring your (father's) car then you should have saved your money and bought a BMW 3 series, not an RX-8. I buy cars for myself, not for others.
The Evo is a car built for driving purists. It's a niche market. On the other hand the RX-8 incorporates a better balance of performance, creature comforts, original styling and daily driveability.
BTW...If you get your rocks off from coworkers admiring your (father's) car then you should have saved your money and bought a BMW 3 series, not an RX-8. I buy cars for myself, not for others.
Where did it say anywhere that it's my father's car? It's my car.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Your entitled to your opinon.
It's funny you pick the corvette though, arguably the evo of the high end sports car world. I often hear Porsche owners making strikingly similar arguements about the vette as you make of the evo, you would probably dismiss those opinions as foolish though
It's funny you pick the corvette though, arguably the evo of the high end sports car world. I often hear Porsche owners making strikingly similar arguements about the vette as you make of the evo, you would probably dismiss those opinions as foolish though
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So dollar for dollar the evo destroys cars far more expensive than itself, but at the cost of some refinement. Dollar for dollar the vette destroys cars far more expensive than itself, but at the cost of some refinement.
You don't respect the Evo, but have lots of respect for the vette even though they are variations of the same theme. It sounds like it all comes down to the sheet metal or you and what other people think of your car.
You don't respect the Evo, but have lots of respect for the vette even though they are variations of the same theme. It sounds like it all comes down to the sheet metal or you and what other people think of your car.
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Blue eyes, what are you driving? Just curious, because you really seem to be an Evo fan.
haha, school cost the $$$ man. Although, I am looking around for a cheap car for the track. There is a thread about it in general automotive, "....10K for project car..."
I have been around cars all my life and have grown to appreciate all of them. Any car that can put a smile on my face is worth it in my eyes. Some cars do it with raw performance, some with beauty, some with feel, and some with a combo of the three. I'd be smiling behind either the 8's or the evo's wheel. It just bothers when car people don't give other cars respect.
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Originally Posted by Japan8
There is the GReddy kit for $3,000 which will give you about another 60whp. A couple mentioned by MazdaManiac in the SSR/SFR thread and you can get the 8 into 300whp territory. Add the Mazdaspeed suspension kit (or RB) and now your 8 can both handle and accelerate with the best of them. Will it beat a stock Evo9? Hell if I know... but I do know that whatever conerns/complaints you have now about the 8 will disappear. Total cost... $26k (sport package), $3k GReddy turbo, $1500 (?) MS suspension... $30,500. Add another $1100 if you want aftermarket leather interior. How does that measure up against the Evo9 for YOU?
but street racing isnt my thing...
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
haha, that was a good episode!
FWIW, the car is widely regarded as one of the most beautiful ever penned.
here is a more ***** looking car for you, and yes I think it is gorgeous, and yes I am very straight :D and another gorgeous car the xk120.
FWIW, the car is widely regarded as one of the most beautiful ever penned.
here is a more ***** looking car for you, and yes I think it is gorgeous, and yes I am very straight :D and another gorgeous car the xk120.
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YO, it's tiptronic foo' (sort of)
I didn't get much say in the matter, it's my fathers but he has too many cars so he blessed me with that jewel while I am in school. I am grateful for it, it's saving me a good chunk of money. Cheap on insurance and gas too, it's actually a pretty nice car.
I didn't get much say in the matter, it's my fathers but he has too many cars so he blessed me with that jewel while I am in school. I am grateful for it, it's saving me a good chunk of money. Cheap on insurance and gas too, it's actually a pretty nice car.
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