coupe07

that is the big problem with flex and super street..... they dun have the pillow mount and that causes the sound........ type CS has the pillow mount, but the price is higher.....

cuscorex

now,to promote hks abit....althou 1 cant 'twist' the settin thro press-of-a-button in the case of hipermax,but the design 4 the rear allows 1 to adj the settins w/o the need to strip anytin.tere's a cable xtended out to the boot space whereby u can play wif the 'twist',juz tat u need to walk out of ur 'cockpit' whenever u wan the chg.

morganoh

Who is the dealer for Cusco and Tanabe Suspension in Singapore?

sandman369

it depends on usage. generally the harder the springs the lesser the roll. for track, generally tarmac assumed to be flat hence hard springs are suitable. for street use, however, hard springs may not be appropriate as road is uneven. while roll is reduced, the car will jerk frequently due to the not so even roads, thus causing loss of tire contact (ie traction) and more importantly, passengers and driver can puke under those conditions...

it's a balance. if i were to choose, i will go for the slightly softer springs (but of cos it must be harder than stock) among the available range of coilovers, so as to strike a good balance between comfort and minimising roll.

RX8ster

I think Jeep Chee is the dealer for Tanabe in Singapore. Correct me if I'm wrong....

M-ster

Stamford tyres too... i think

Genesis

cuscorex....how's the ride with the hipermax? Have you found a setting that nicely minimizes body roll during cornering, but not too harsh on straights...the so called perfect balance?

cuscorex

yo gene...hmm,generally,hipermax is still a street suspension;spring rate of 8f/5R(kg),slightly harder then flex.due to the ride ht tat im hvin,i gotta set it @ bout 3/4 2wards the stiffest.if nt,the rear wil rub the mud-gaurd passin thro humps or wif loads.mi settins is bias 2 handlin & looks, nt comfort.

morganoh

YEH . Tanabe has a Electric Active Suspension controller . TEAS

http://www.carnews.com.tw/option/opt...le_No=00002479

And best of all is that the time to change 1 setting is only 0.013 Seconds, total of 16 seconds.

I guess Tein is much slower right??

But anyone can advice me hows the Tanabe suspension? IS it good?

cuscorex

add on to bro morgon quote,TEAS is able to adj the dampin force accordin to the speed of the vehicle automatically;presetted by the user.suppose its 1st in the mkt so far.
interesin....

morganoh

Hopefully its not too expensive. BEST if the price is around the price of tein ..

Keeping my finger cross :D

morganoh

Just got a Quote from JeepChee, The price is $4500...

I though can get around $3900, then I will go for it immediately.

SomeGuy_sg

Haha... You guys still talking about it ?
Morgan, May be you should think about just driving a honda instead. Haha... But anyways i will give you a little low down on this here ****.

From what i can gather you are more interesting in a Height Adjustable Coilovers rather than Damping Adjustable Coilover .



Height Adjustable Coilovers
3 Types
Air bag type-
It uses a compressor and a airtank to adjust ride height by limiting the amount of air going to the "Bag" . The "Bag" takes the place of the coilsprings, usually made out of plastic and can take some abuse.
Air strut type-
Basicly the same as the Air bag type but the main difference is that "bag" is replace with a metal cylinder that holds the air .
Hydraulic Type-
No bag , not even a strut is left . Every thing is controlled throught hydraulic actuctors .Note very expensive and very heavy
All of these systems are for adjusting ride height for that slammed look. All of these systems are heavy. Take up boot space cause you need a compressor and a air-tank. And would require special installation and servicing as not local shop does this sort thing well.

Than you have your Damping Adjusting Coilover
Manual Adjustable-
Not too bad. Been around for a long time. Adjusting damping rates are usual done by a **** on the top of the strut. You would see why it would be a pain to adjust the coilovers in the back now huh ... Unless you have a Coilover with a remote reservoir/adjustor , than you might be about to place it in a more reachable place.
Electronic Adjustable-
It make use of small actuators on the top of the strut in place of the **** for adjustments. Controlled by a mirco-processor, it adjusts the damping with of each strut independent of each other while displaying the damping rate.
The EDFC or whatever you wanna call it, is not a real need. It just a new toy that you will use for a while after which you will stay at one setting. So you are actually paying just to play with it for awhile. Yes, you might say you can tune it and get the exact damping rate when you track the car. But with it being so expensive and with other options like just marking out the adjustable setting . It leaves you wondering why get one in the first place.


add-on
Spring rates
Spring rates is the amount of pressure need for the srping to compress. Choosing the right spring rate is very important . It will affect your handling and ride comfort. To hard a spring rate you might from yourself have too much oversteer with ride comfort with the likes of racing a camel. Too soft a spring rate you you will find understeer as the body of the car might roll a bit too much but it won't break your back if you got over bump or a pothole. Most aftermarket suspesions have similar spring rates and depending on what kinda ride you want. So you can get a Flex but don't be suprise if the same car goes faster than you around a track. But you would be the one laugh on the ride home from malaysia after the track day.


There are lot of other things related to this subject. I have only touched on a few things. Some Engineerings spend their whole careers dedicated to just this topic alone.

ps; As with all things , take my posting with a pinch of salt .

SomeGuy_sg

Oh and also ... auto.hotstuffworks.com
that website is your friend ..haha... :D

morganoh

Why did u said that, cos I do not want to spend Money$$ on the expensive suspension?

Very sad ,, , that u make such remarks. Just because that I'm trying to save $$$

morganoh

According to Jeep Chee .

The Tanabe Active Suspension system only works with the new Tanabe Pro Seven .
Can't be used on the rest of the Tanabe suspension.
and they are currently only 5 car models that can use this.

Evo, DC5, STI, Lexus, Rx8.

They consider this to be too expensive for the Spore Market, so they will be bringing them in and keep stock.
They will only bring it if an order is make and waiting time is 1-1.5 mths.

SomeGuy_sg

If that is the case , There is a malaysian company doing their own suspension . They only have ride height adjustment . The brand is called TiTan. Heard not bad things about it ....

http://www.titansuspension.com/

And , dude If you wanna do some thing , do it right the first time. We all like to cheap, but it not good to be that way all the time. There are not ghetto mods for suspensions ..haha..

morganoh

I dont understand what u meant..??

Please advice me what is it u are trying to said.

Thanks

morganoh

OF cos everyone love cheap and good stuffs.

Some / or most of the people in this world can afford to buy very expensive things , its just that they do want to.
There are people who can spend $300K on a Car but do not want to spend $1000 on a Watch.
Same goes for people would are willing to pay $50K for a Watch but do not wish to drive a car.
(same goes for u, would do not wish to pay 1.50 for bottled water and 2 bucks for a canned drink)

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coupe07

$3900 budget??
bro... with this budget u can get many good suspension.... u may want to try roger's aragosta suspension...... one of the best names around for suspension....

sgrenesis

Have i been too stressed lately that my eyes are playin tricks on me.

OR maybe its the latest trend now to type gibberish.

WOW I have been gone a long time... :D

takahashi

It has been suggested in the usuage and cars.

I believe SG has very smooth roads. But if you have slightly indulated roads, beware!
The harder spring will actually give too much bounce and create some unstability in high speed.

I am sure some of you play games and try to play GT4 and get a sport car with wide spring rate adjustment. If you go over 14kg in the Nurburgring, your car probably bounce and will not keep on the road along that long straight at the end.
The compensation is get more down force - but that comes rare for a simple sport car like the RX-8.

The Japanese have stated the RX-8 will go well on the road anything less than 10kg for the front. Rear is around 4-6kg for most shocks.

Aragosta and Quantum suspension is TOO hard for road, they are design for track adn track only.

Flex, Hypermax, R Magic's Ohlin's, Fujita's HKS made FM801 are for part time street and part time circuit. Seriously, some of you might have brought a Jap mag talking about suspension on the circuit サーキット or on the street ストリート.

Treat them seriously.

My concern is having too much consideration to the spring rate by itself. A softer spring rate in same damper may be better than a harder one. I am trying to research some at present and I see how I go with that for a person who mainly drive highway and track his car 4x/year.

coupe07

knight sports aragosta is in the middle of the graph, meaning ideal for all purposes, as with cusco zero-2.....

sgrenesis

for the downforce to take effect wouldnt you have to be at a considerable speed.

I played GT4 plenty of times and have to say that nurburgring is a interesting track to test out some of those points that you stated. Another track i would point out would be circuit de la sarthe.

Roads here aint what they used to be in the old days.
If they dig a hole to do road works and patch it up later on, they will just fill it up till it looks like a little lump so it will not be leveled with the existing road.

takahashi

yes it is like the old days in here down under :o. have you been here?