hallo =)
 

erm i wan to buy a new car, i m interested in dc5, ss2 & rx8
but got a few question to ask
hope u all can help =)
the 250hp rx8 can beat dc5 & ss2?
the 210hp will loss to dc5 & ss2 right?
what the price of the 210 version & the 250 version now?
how the mod potential of the rx8? not interested in FI, only NA
able to reach 300hp by staying NA & still 1.3?
thanks alot :))

Hi, if ur lookin 4 an all out performance car tt can beat this n tt then i suggest u dun choose the rx8... please go for a typical boy racer type r dc5... if u r very concerned abt the speed n performance the type r dc5 has far more mod potential... the 8 should be able to reach 300 hp but does tt matter??? high hp with low torque = same... there is a balance for everythin.... give n take... and its quite impossible to upgrade the 1.3 litre ROTARY engine ...

if u r talking abt stock vs stock, the rx8 will beat the other 2 on track. Y track, becos track got bends. If u toking abt straight lines, then rx8 may not be the choice.

- 250hp can beat dc5r and ss2. SS2 is rather crappy. No offence, celica owners. But again, its how u handle the car.

- 210hp = auto version. Yes, lose to dc5 and ss2. U cun compare an auto with manuals anyway.

- Pricing wise, 210hp is ard 103k. Theres no more jdm 250hp. No one bringing in. Mazda motors rx8 is detuned to 231hp. U cun feel the difference in 19hp. Its only figures anyway. MM retailing at ard 132k.

- mod potential, u can change everything from intake to muffler and tuned the ecu, but hitting 300 horses staying NA is still very difficult. Y wld u wan so high horses? Too fast too furious? Like wat cannavaro says, u wan a straight out performance car, go for DC5R or even EVOs or WRXes (altho i dun even consider the DC5R to be a performance car. I tink stock vs stock or equivalent mod vs mod, rx8 can still chiet dc5r hands down). RX8 is not in this category. If u wan a headturner car, then rx8 is the choice. Go down orchard road in the 8 and chances are u will turn more heads than the other choices here if u dress up ur car nicely.

notice that i did not even mention the ss2. Iin terms of looks and performance ss2 cun really compare.

end of the day, ask urself wat do u really wan? Looks? Style? Performance? RX8 gives u the perfect balance. DC5R and SS2 are the typical boy racer car. Put urself into either one, chances are, pple will call u an ah beng.... agree??

:hahano: :hahano: :ylsuper: :rock: :cwm27:

WOOOOOTTT!!!!
I 100% agree!!!
Coming back liao...wait for me!!! counting down 40 more days

Just FYI that Garage R is bringing in the 250hp version - first delivery expected december.

confirm wait for u come back then go for meet!!!! LAI LAI LAI

i'm surprised they are still bringing in when they cun compete the selling price and specs that MM is offering....

People will pay money if its better. I mean we 8 owners will not buy it if we mind the money in the first place considering at least 50% of the cars on the road now costs 50k or less.

Its just the world is. Thats why we have more than 200 ferraris hwere in SG.

Eh, how can u say that? JDM is still different from Eurospec'ed... U may not be able to feel the 19hp but mayb others can? :nono:

To each his own ya.... :)

I believe Garage R is bringing in the Shinka version 2, and not just the standard Type S.

lai liao....
got new shirt design bo???
no have then i try to do something...now holiday liao!!

I need some new shirts to wear!
got some ideas but dunno hw to put together...

Did u see the TopGear review of the RX-8? Jeremy Clarkson threw the RX-8 around the track and declared it the best car he drove that year. They also timed the RX-8 around the track, and got the same track timing as the BMW M3 and Nissan 350Z, which on paper has higher specs than the RX-8.

It really depends on the race situation. Traffic light to traffic light, the RX-8 is not the car for drag racing. But throw in enough distance and some corners, the RX-8 will match higher horsepower cars with its handling.

If you're looking for powerful performance for sprints and on paper, nothing beats the WRX, esp. for the bang for the buck. But the Subaru can't match the RX-8 for handling fun and looks... So it really depends on what you're looking for in a car...

saw u at simpang bedok eat bachor mee...... how come eat so long... i rch later than u, waited so damn long, eat finish liao, u still there!! parked infront of u somemore!! hehehehehe

okokok.... abt the 19 horses.... my bad.....

actually in the Best Motoring - Rotary reborn disc, the RX8 is the second last car on the track at Tsukuba. they lined up at the grid as follows MX5(NB), RX8, DC5-typeR, S2000, Skyline coupe and WRX. RX8 just doesn't have the torque/power on the straights to win.

dats y i say straights, rx8 cun make it... but on bends, thats where u see the beauty of the 8.

aiyoh...you ask our fellow 8 owners in this forum...of cos we lean more towards the 8...or else we buy the 8 for what right....hahaha. You go honda forum...ask them the same ques...they sure say the honda best this best that....or even the celica forum....sure slam the 8 here and there.

Since you already joined this forum...i guess you already know what car your heart really want..and just want some incentives to get the car.

my brother and myself got the car simply because it looks nicer than the rest that we were looking at.

Don't worry so much about performance lah...this is singapore...go at 120 your LP already start to shrink. Not say you will be going sepang or PG very often (my apologies if you are really a racer). The 8 itself is no slouch. there is sufficient power when you need it but who doesn't want more.

of cos....the 8 can get you the chicks if thats what you want to hear. ;)

With either of these, maybe the RX8 Can Make It

Wah! SC! which hero put liao?

I think its a show car at a car show in Vegas.

Looks really good.

one is a show car at SEMA... the other is knight sports demo car.....

...and the winner is?.....

Winner is the Highly Skilled driver........who can turn a normal car into a breast.

Into a breast?? Morgan....now that's funny :evil_laug :D:

Nice....Breast :)

Now we know what morgan is thinking about all the time....

i read some where, rx8 redline 9000rpm??
the power band is how?
i know ss2 & dc5 after 6k got g force when lift kick in...but nv heard anything abt rx8 b4..
than how is the torque? like a 1.3 or?
thanks =))

In fact, the tacho reads until 10,000rpm. However canot redline until 10k. the rotary is a high rev engine and can rev until slightly more than 9k before the fuel cut.... Power wise, Low end torque is rather disappointing for a sports car, altho still can win 90% of the cars on the road. However once u hit 3.5k and beyond, the real power comes in.

As for "g force", the rotary is not like Vtec where u always hear pple say "I loot until gor cheng (5,000) rpm then my vtec kui, chia sipeh kin." Dunno abt the ss2 though cos i still maintain my stand that this car is not in the league.

To conclude, low end torque is not too good, mid-high end torque is superb. THe sound of the rotary is sweet!

Go with ur heart, if u still have the boy racer in u, go for DC5R. If u wan head turner car, then rx8 is the choice. Mods will come much later. U wan rx8 to be damn fast, its not impossible, its how much u want to spend only. There are mods that can increase 70hps easily for the car. Also have those that increase 50hp. Its how much u willing to devote ur time n money into that car niah.......

Handling wise, like i said earlier, rx8 wins hands down. Again, the driver plays a big part too.

210 manual also loss celica lah. no nid say dc5 liao.
250 version beat dc5 & celica, try before already?
equivanlent mod to mod, dc5 can easily reach 300+ hp, rx8 also no chance.

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100% no respect of other people ride.

"notice that i did not even mention the ss2. Iin terms of looks and performance ss2 cun really compare."

WTF is this? can say the car crappy zzzzz
rx8 v chio meh? the wheel arch look like praying mantis!

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As for "g force", the rotary is not like Vtec where u always hear pple say "I loot until gor cheng (5,000) rpm then my vtec kui, chia sipeh kin." Dunno abt the ss2 though cos i still maintain my stand that this car is not in the league.

u don`t even know how ss2 engine works, already say not in the league.
it has lift cam, which is almost the same as vtec.

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don`t tok so much rubbish lah, put date & time, go GP try with my ss2, pls dun bring the waste time 210 version k, tat time i push 1, when i hit lift, i have to release throttle to prevent hitting him, v slow zzzz.
just bring the 250 version!

haiz... another one to chiet this chiet that...... from Tiong Chia Club?

If u do read carefully, which i tink u didn, i'm toking abt stock vs stock......

How old liao? still play this kinda thing
if your 18 and revving to go with your P plate then bring it on... i will bring a 250 hp bicycle to race with you...


December 27th 2000 hours at GP
see ya there..

Yah man... 2zzge, how old are you? Your SS2 very fast, very chio... happy? Be good and run along now. People get sensitive about their cars, but you don't see us going to your club forum and posting crap, do you? We don't shit in your house, so show some respect when you're visiting other car club forums.

Cannavaro, confirm your flight liao ah? Wah.. 250HP bicycle very hiong man... but dun need to waste your time lah. I think 100HP bicycle more than enough liao...

How to be equivalent? You must be quite GIFTED to be able to work out the the proportion between piston and rotary when the experts cant give an exact figure.


If looking like a praying mantis is the rage now to get the gals :kiss: (its obvious which they will choose), I am definitely not going to argue about that.
Oh forgot, we got converts too (celica change to 8) but last i checked I dont think i heard of any 8 drivers downgrade leh.


Are you related to the MX-5 driver? :bootyshak

Hmmm, interesting.... but i must say Coupe's idea of other cars cannot be so frank though... Very frequently u need to remind yourself to be more politically correct in your judgement or view on other cars....

All i can say is .................................................. .................. GP siboh!? Lai la! :)

Peace -.-)V

Hello... you back from Ozland or not....

Neon ready to rock & roll ?

had saw a DC5 with suspension mod. & drop in air filter really pull away from a blitz SC mod SS1 or SS2(not sure) back in Jan2003, as my previous ride DC5 & now RX8 so just wonder whether it is possible for a SC or port & polish SS1/SS2 to pull away from a 6spd RX8 easily ? may be it can :Eyecrazy:

Relax....

All the cars mentioned here are good.... no need to get so worked up bro. I have seen many nice ss2 with excellent body kits. We no need to prove who is faster, all equal, 2 door, 4 tires...

Why every challange must be speed, how come nobody challange whose car smell better, or whose boot is cleaner or who can car drive to genting and back on 1 tank. Why is it always speed speed speed. If you really want speed then buy a Ferrari or a lambo... one uncle say to me... my lambo 0 to 100, 4 sec,.... hell I take 4 sec to turn on my car. So I feel there is no point to discuss on speed, there are bigger fishes all laughing at us telling us don't talk rubbish. Sad but true.

What about racing in reverse gear. Who is faster ?? ah how about that ??

Peace dude...

flight not confirm but confirm coming back b4 christmas!!!wootz!!
so is he racing or not?
i already prepared my bicycle !!!
charge battery liao... self in camp OZ training already!!!
can run 2.4km liao!!!
wahahahahah!!!

Eh... i know... ah boh... we go GP , then challenge 2zzge to 2.4 KM run la!!!
waste time run car.. also not made by yourself
lets get personal!!!


P.S( talking more like kid liao) - no choice...talking with kid

haha, i totally agree why everything must challenge speed. if ur car is fast enough to go past ERP gantry without being detected, then i say ur car good. or maybe ur car can like those motorcycle, can squeeze past those carpark gantry without paying, then its the best.

Funny leh, how come 190bhp 7.2 secs car can chiet 200+bhp 6+ secs car?

I tink he either put turbo, or the 8 he mentioned dowan to race with him.. decided license not worth risking for a confirmed win.. :lol2:

Anyway, it is generally acknowledged that the rotary responds better to FI than most piston engines cos of it's simple construction, ie just add more fuel and air, and u get more power. The bladdy thing just spins faster lor! (Only have to pay attn to detonation -- that one must play with engine mgt).

But say here say there, i think both cars are damn chio. Better looking than evo n wrx. If cannot run as fast, at least look good lor..

PS: Of course the 8 is more chio! Everyone knows gays know more about style: http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/ar...x?id=5560&vf=1

PPS: i tink race reverse gear 8 will win, cos got higher rpm :balls:

PPPS: i'm not gay. please stop calling my hp. :mdrmed:

Eh pai seh, forgot that auto 8 also 7+ secs, so sama sama with stock ss2. :D:

Agreed!!!!!!!! no wonder all the young girls in the office wants a 'ride' :aroused:
Will join Genesis in the wide open glacier of Whistler Mountain... :wavey: but will be back just in time for the Mega Meet on 27 Nov. See you cheers! :yumyum:

:rofl: that's classic loh, way to quell 2zzge's boyish rant.

Roger that, sir! :evil_laug

STEADY!!! thats the spirit!!! :yumyum: hehehehehe

Uncle Tan, wat kind of "ride"????? Got a lot of meanings leh
Nowadays, uncle oso very kinky one leh...... :p: :lol2:

loh...i am very sad now....You never mention challenge who has shinest tyres. :banghead:

If you compare the cars based on the track results, it depends on the driver who is driving it. As for me I dont rely too much on these information.

I enjoy driving my rx8.

Correct. I second it.

Very very true... with my skill I can only drive 80-90km/hr around a certain bend in Sepang,,, but my instructor show me that the car is capable of doing 120-130 around the same bend with the same car but a more skillful driver.

How to challange you? 2 weeks of no polish I still need sunglasses to look at your tire... But I think it's going to be tough fight with naughty boy with his turbo powered polisher, his tire looks damn bling too....

naughty boy is the de facto bling. No fight with his. Use my tyre to challenge other people first...IF lose.....the use his. First king cannot anyhow come out...cos if first king loses....we all lao kui.