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Old 12-21-2005, 03:16 AM
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Anyone out there have changed their brake pads to the aftermarket brand? Looking at changing it to the race type brake (track usage) pads so that it can take higher temp before becoming ineffective.

Any particular brands tested on our 8 (6MT) and where is a good place to get it done and rougly how much it cost ? Thanks .......

Oh ya also I supposed MM will not be fuzzy over it am I right ? Will they mention anything about warranty and stuff like that if I am not using their brake components?
Old 12-21-2005, 07:55 AM
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Use those race type pads once (former car). Need to warm up the pads first. If not...the brakes will not bite..quite dangerous on normal street usage. Just giving my opinion.
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Originally Posted by CURRENT9
Anyone out there have changed their brake pads to the aftermarket brand? Looking at changing it to the race type brake (track usage) pads so that it can take higher temp before becoming ineffective.

Any particular brands tested on our 8 (6MT) and where is a good place to get it done and rougly how much it cost ? Thanks .......
i'm using e auto exe pads for tracking, i think terms900 is using them too.
u can pm coupe07 for e parts, he is well stock! rite bro?

if u were worried about high temp, u can enchance yr brake sysyem further with steel braided hose to reduce brake fading in addition to e pads.
i suggest u mod them in stages and try it out at e track to beta appreciate e improvement n see if they met yr requirement.
most lads rushed out n practically overhauled their ride before driving it stock.
max e car to a stage where u reckon her existing setup is no longer able to allow u to improve yr skills/timing and mod accordingly....

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Oh ya also I supposed MM will not be fuzzy over it am I right ? Will they mention anything about warranty and stuff like that if I am not using their brake components?
SCREW THEM
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Originally Posted by CURRENT9
Anyone out there have changed their brake pads to the aftermarket brand? Looking at changing it to the race type brake (track usage) pads so that it can take higher temp before becoming ineffective.

Any particular brands tested on our 8 (6MT) and where is a good place to get it done and rougly how much it cost ? Thanks .......

Oh ya also I supposed MM will not be fuzzy over it am I right ? Will they mention anything about warranty and stuff like that if I am not using their brake components?
generally do ask around to check that the operating temperature of the pad is suitable for the disc as under heavy use, the disc may warp as it cannot handle higher temp. one sure way is to get an aftermarket disc to complement your new pads.

you may also want to consider upgrading the brake fluid and lines in order to max out the performance of the parts.
Old 12-22-2005, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sandman369
you may also want to consider upgrading the brake fluid and lines in order to max out the performance of the parts.
I didnt know you could upgrade the brake fluid. Actually how does that improve the braking.
Old 12-22-2005, 08:05 AM
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I didnt know you could upgrade the brake fluid. Actually how does that improve the braking.
Under heavy braking (like at track) the standard brake fluid can get so hot it will boil near the calipers and turn to gas. If this happens, the brakes will feel spongy and way less effective. A superior brake fluid can handle the extreme temps (has a higher boiling point) and therefore lead to better brake performance under heavy braking. Certainly this isn't something anyone would have to worry about during everyday street driving, right? hehe
Old 12-22-2005, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sgrenesis
I didnt know you could upgrade the brake fluid. Actually how does that improve the braking.
the braking improvement is not the important issue...its just that there are different boiling point for the fluids used. dot 3, 4 and 5. dot 3 being the lowest and 5 being the highest.

dot 3 and 4 will absorb moisture over time but dot 5, being silicone based, will not. however, using the dot 5 fluid is not very good as it is difficult to flush it out of the brake system once you use it.

i know dot 3 and 4 can be mixed together as they share the same properties but using the dot 5 will be like oil on water.

once you use the 5...and if it happen to be mixed with water...you will probably get spongy brake pedal feel.

Thus....brake fluids...can upgrade...but upgrade to 4 if you are using 3 but stay away from 5 even if you are tempted by the high boiling point (dot 4's boiling point if i still remember is about 430F and dot 5 is 500F.).....

Bro..i think the answer to your question is it won't improve your braking but rather it will reduce the risk of brake failure due to its high boiling point.
Old 12-22-2005, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sgrenesis
I didnt know you could upgrade the brake fluid. Actually how does that improve the braking.
The normal or standard Brake fluid is Dot 4.

The higher quality ones is Dot 5 or 5.1 (is there a 5.1? I'm not very sure too)
Old 12-22-2005, 08:54 AM
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[QUOTE=ngkenny]the braking improvement is not the important issue...its just that there are different boiling point for the fluids used. dot 3, 4 and 5. dot 3 being the lowest and 5 being the highest.

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wah bro... u n me got yuan leh... keep seeing you xia
Old 12-22-2005, 09:00 AM
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[QUOTE=CaNNaVaR0][QUOTE=ngkenny]the braking improvement is not the important issue...its just that there are different boiling point for the fluids used. dot 3, 4 and 5. dot 3 being the lowest and 5 being the highest.

..............

wah bro... u n me got yuan leh... keep seeing you xia
if tmr see you in the same area again...straight away tear 9 pcs of paper...write 0-9 and each choose 2 number and pak ka liao.
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Originally Posted by morganoh
The normal or standard Brake fluid is Dot 4.

The higher quality ones is Dot 5 or 5.1 (is there a 5.1? I'm not very sure too)
It's dot 5.1 that we should be using. it has similar base of dot 4 and 3, just that it has a higher boiling point. dont ever use dot 5, dont think it is suitable for most street cars.
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Originally Posted by Genesis
Under heavy braking (like at track) the standard brake fluid can get so hot it will boil near the calipers and turn to gas. If this happens, the brakes will feel spongy and way less effective. A superior brake fluid can handle the extreme temps (has a higher boiling point) and therefore lead to better brake performance under heavy braking. Certainly this isn't something anyone would have to worry about during everyday street driving, right? hehe
well explained. just to share that generally, bubbling of the brake fluid will affect the responsiveness. a worse situation is when pads start to "gas" (happens when temp is higher than operating temp of pad), one would feel no braking power... and it can be quite scary...
Old 12-22-2005, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sandman369
well explained. just to share that generally, bubbling of the brake fluid will affect the responsiveness. a worse situation is when pads start to "gas" (happens when temp is higher than operating temp of pad), one would feel no braking power... and it can be quite scary...

follow jetblast lor....dun use brakes...wont have this problem anymore
Old 12-22-2005, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ngkenny
if tmr see you in the same area again...straight away tear 9 pcs of paper...write 0-9 and each choose 2 number and pak ka liao.

no need la...tonite u come meetup sure see one... prepare paper liao... sat n sunday get rich then monday change bodykit liao
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thanks a million for all the advise out there ....
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