coupe07

5MT?? i will be surprised if knight sports sell the kit to u to fit on the 5MT.....

morganoh

May I find out how would a Short Throw Shifter prevents RED lining the RPM?

csl

If the rpm don't drop that much, I don't need to push it to a higher rpm.

csl

Thanks for the offer. Maybe next time. Cuz this time I may need to change either a new rx8 engine or used rx7 engine.

csl

Will post some pics tomorrow.

lennon

How to fit in a RX7 engine????

csl

My friend asked me to contact Kenneth Lau 0162771xxx. BTW, some people already done it (found some topic at the forum home). I can PM you the contact number. Maybe you can contact him and sell your engine to me later on

Swerve76

There have been a lotta13B and 20B conversions already been done before bud

CoupeM

The question would be $$$$$

effie

A short shifter "WILL NOT" in any way alter the way ur engine RPM behaves...... Fitting a short shifter "WILL NOT" prevent ur RPMs from dropping any further than it already does.... It just doesn't do that.....

A short shifter only changes the throw of ur gear lever.....Basically shortening it..... Thats why its called a "Short Shifter".....

I think what bro CSL really wants is to alter the gear ratios...... For that, ud need to shorten the ratios of 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th..... not to mention final drive too....... Downside to doing this is that ur Top Speed WILL be much slower.......

lennon

This i know!!!! But not in Malaysia!!!! Plus it's not plug-n-play so easy, if it's wrongly done, your car will end up with pile of $hit where the smell doesn't goes off easily....... I'm waiting for guinea pigs.......

Swerve76

Jasrevs from Australia has done some pretty good work on conversions if I'm not wrong and he has posted in this thread - send him a PM for some quotes bud and pls gimme a ride if you get it done!

lennon

Swerve, me is always interested in this n have been lurking for sometimes..... But i think i'll past, becos really no $$ and time...... My other fren is looking to get FD into RX8 too......

Swerve76

I've heard that a recon 13b from Johor costs about RM5k. Not sure how true that is but no harm asking around bro. I am sure there are plenty of garage in JB or KL that can do a conversion...but it will mess up the 50/50 weight distribution tho as that engine is heavier (or so I've read)

kent_sg

hi to all 8s' bro,to my knowledge johor has some garage trying to fix up 20b but not sucessful as the engine can't withstand for a certain time (nt very sure how long is it..?) of heavy driving,but definitely theres' 8 with FD3S engine in it as its more reliable to turbocharged FD than SE3P.

(the info abovementioned are through some garages in johor)

lennon

If that very garage is VazMaz, then you can forget about it....... Their reputation is dead...... Viswork oso can do that, i trust them more than VazMaz..... Buying the engine is just half done, a halfcut will be more accurate...... Doing sounds simple and easy, with no side side effect..... I'm only concern about the aftermath, engine must line up inch perfect, rattling sound will be amplified, Meter Cluster might not be useable, no DSC (good if you like action)... Any guinea pigs to donate for testing??

effie

Yeah...... i second lennon..... Vaz-Maz reputation is DEAD !!!! Visworks much better !!!!!!

kent_sg

i understand from what u mean,i went there once for my CEL and i don't what he did to my ride and my alarm blew off,but my frenz in johor tells me that the "master" (dun tink suitable to mentioned his name ) behind vazmaz is stiil that damn good just that he seldom does tings himself,anyway if u do hav ppl trying out 20b do post it and let us noe,...............cheers.

coupe07

i agree with lennon. TO put in a 13B rew, u have to sacrifice many things that ur rx8 originally have.

Basic things like aircon? even if u can connect, u will lose the auto aircon functions. how abt the centre console? All these can control by ur rx8 ecu. Once u put FD's 13B, u have to use FD's ecu which do not support all these, including DSC. Gear box?? remember FD running on 5spd gearbox.

In the end, u have the power, u lose out on all the comfort stuff... worth it??

its possible to transplant the engine, but not practical.... like the rx7's power, get the rx7.

lennon

Thanks for the support, coupe.....

We are in no-man's land, we don't have expertise and experienced workshop to take up this job, unlike Japan, US and Aus..... But i do hope someone can prove me wrong.......

Kent_SG, tell me if you found out......

theboy

i agree with lennon too. as long i am going for my 20b project for my rx8. i am still holding my pocket to purchase the 20b. because of all the things that will be lost. the look of the gear **** area. and the aircon, and warning lights. any expert with 20b in rx8 can give some experience and photo of the transplant?

csl

Bro, try to shift the gear with 1 sec then with 3 sec. Monitor the different of rpm respond.

morganoh

I think the time differences in shifting between gear for the Short Shifter and the original is not that much.

Maybe it will take 1 sec or less to change gears with the original shifter

And

Maybe it will take 30% faster (0.7 secs) to change gear with the Short Shifter.

So with the full throttle, the RPM is not going increase by 3-4000 RPM within this 0.3 secs.
No unless u have a super powerful engine. (maybe 500-700 HP)

If u want to have a bigger change in RPM with the same amount of throttle, u will have to change the gear ratio or change to a much lighter flywheel.

lennon

Short shift doesn't make that much of differents..... Like Morganoh said maybe 0.3 sec faster in shift, will rpm goes 200 different??

Shifting is about skill, but i sure do like short shift, i feel like a pro with it......

csl

Will know after installed.