gfoo

Hi guys, collecting my ride Thurs, and one of the first things i'm doing will be:

- engine flush, replace with Trust FE2 at Autobacs
- install ATF cooler

Any recommendations on a good and reliable brand (Hayden?) and workshop to buy and install the ATF cooler? Anywhere other than McWell, very bad experiences with them.

thanks in advance

watoke

ATF = Auto Transmission Fluid Cooler?
Do u need to install a cooler for ATF?
Tot u might be installing additional Oil Cooler if u buy from PI, as it comes with only 1 Oil Cooler.
Sorry, correct me if am wrong.

gfoo

ATF Oil Cooler or ATF Cooler is an additional to cool the auto tranny fluid/oil i think. Advantages are it can prolong the auto tranny and make shifting a little smoother.

There's only space in PI cars to install either an additional oil cooler, or the ATF cooler. For me, i'll choose the ATF cooler.

sqflyer

gfoo, I don't think you should replace the engine oil with Trust FE2 right away unless you are buying a 2nd hand 8. If your car is brand new, mineral oil is much better for running in the engine IMO. But you are right with the ATF cooler. Most auto 8s are better with 1 ATF and 1 oil cooler unlike the manual 8s that do better with 2 oil coolers.

gfoo

phew, thanks for your recommendation. i thought Trust FE2 was like heavily recommended in some of the posts i read in the forum. To be honest, i also did read that synthetics were bad for rotary engines but seem like some bros swear by FE2. Is there any particular brand of mineral oil i should look out for?

also, what brand of ATF cooler is suitable for installation in the RX8 and where should i do it? Thinking of Garage R but heard that they are way expensive

cuscorex

to add to SQ's quote,i suppose wat he meant was to use mineral durin the break-in period.aft,u then go 4 the syns...

gfoo

thanks cusco.....point taken.... prob will go for it about 2000km mark.

coupe07

Dun be swayed by some of the thing u read on forums......

FE2 by trust is heavily recommended by?? its a semi synthetic oil, and yes, its a rotary oil. But well.. good old mineral oil does the same job too, so long its the right mixture

seriously talking abt good, the true rotary oil from rotary tuners shld be the best.... trust and HKS dun specialise in rotary... the rotary oil from R magic, RE amemiya and mazdaspeed are all synthetic oil..... they are all renowned rotary tuners and they use synthetic oil... so we cun say they are bad either....

FE2.. well... semi synthetic oil at sky high prices... u judge urself...

gfoo

Thanks coupe07. for either R magic, RE amemiya or mazdaspeed, where will I be able to get them? is there any trusted workshop i can send my car for servicing at (other than Garage R) that carries these?

Since my RX8 is brand new, want to be a little bit more kiasu and start off with all the right stuff to avoid probs later, esp since it is a PI car.

Emperor

As the others said. Run in with mineral oil first.

ATF cooler is very recommended. Depends on budget. Most are good but if got $$$ of course ARC is best.

Installation in driver side intake is good but look too contrasting with a silver cooler. Other wise infront of radiator.

Syns IMO are still the best. I think HKS and Thrust also buy their oils from other OEMs and price up. In fact most tuners do that. Well, as long as you used a relatively good oil then its ok. No matter the brand.

airspeed

gfoo, I have one Hayden ATF cooler in my storeroom. Let me know if you're interested. I made the mistake of asking my PI garage if they can install it. They say it will void my warranty, so now I'm just waiting for the warranty to finish before I can install.

I think it's possible to install both ATF cooler and a 2nd Oil cooler. Just install the ATF cooler at the front (with the AT/aircon radiator)and the 2nd Oil cooler on the right side where the oil cooler is for the 6MT.

cuscorex

since u mentioned Kiasu,tis is wat i did...mineral fr 0-500;501-1500 in semi-syns;1501 onwards on syns....wat do u tink?

gfoo

Wah cusco, you win already lor.....may prob follow your lead

Airspeed, which is your PI? sekali same as mine then i'll run in to the same issue as well.

thanks

airspeed

Pinnacle, what's urs?

yohji

So,may i know what is the price for the ATF cooler..i find this shop sung beng auto from hot stuff don't know how much they selling this thing.

gfoo

Mine is Huayang...... so far the buying experience with them has been great (except that they gave me the most cocked-up unlucky car plate no ever, now bo pian have to go bidding).

Any bros can advise on a reliable workshop to install ATF cooler?

sgrenesis

Its good advice from someone who is experienced. I took pointers and advice from him too. Very knowledgeable person who shares with you his experience on issues with cars.
Even help build my foundation on knowledge about cars and the right way to mod not forgettin the dark side mods too. Have to really thank him. HAHAHA...

coupe07

wait wait wait..... u forgot how u got down from ur car to help him check whether he can clear the slope for his front bumper or not...... that one super classic memory..... well... off topic...

theboy

Emperor, i found that on the Mazdaspeed oil cooler at japanparts.com, it say for MT. can it be used in 4AT? and is those pipes the same?

can you briefly recommend which one would be better for AT car? ATF or engine cooler?

Emperor

You should get a atf cooler first. Cools the engine, cools the tranny, prolongs tranny life, etc.

I am looking to get a uprated oil cooler myself though i am in no hurry. What i feel its better to replace with one good one than add another one to the stock.

theboy

Emperor i got my Engine oil cooler installed on my 4AT, big difference, now i am looking for a way to cool down the gear **** (Tranny). any suggestion other than ATF cooler?

jimsssss

Hello,
Best place to install ATF Cooler
Automatic Transmission Specialist Centre
KHANG'S AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION PTE LTD
Blk 21 Sin MIng Industrial Estate Sector A #1-34/36
Singapore 575679
Tel:6456 5200
www.katc.com.sg
JIM