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05-01-2006, 12:50 AM
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Yah lah, all so work up for what??!! 
No need to scare people won't mod lah, they will still come to your shop wan lah
, and please stop it with insults of me wanting to leave my car stock, and FYI I have no personal tuner on my own end, WRONG INFO 
I am Pro Jap too, but I never mentioned anything about Americans coming out with the first kits, just that sometimes Japs are good but sometimes they are at too much of a rush too.
My car still stock becos I am not even in S'pore, so how to mod?? duh.....
Sibeh sianz, just a simple conversation and chat, turn until so personal, so typical.....
So relac lah all, my info might not be entirely correct, but don't think anyone else's info here is totally correct as well. We are all just reading from where ever and whatever we can find. Whether 8 owners or even /local modshops.
And since the sum the money to be spent is not small, of cos must rerearch and explore all areas before putting our hard-earned money into the 8. Not all of us Ah Sia Kias leh.....
No need to scare people won't mod lah, they will still come to your shop wan lah
, and please stop it with insults of me wanting to leave my car stock, and FYI I have no personal tuner on my own end, WRONG INFO I am Pro Jap too, but I never mentioned anything about Americans coming out with the first kits, just that sometimes Japs are good but sometimes they are at too much of a rush too.
My car still stock becos I am not even in S'pore, so how to mod?? duh.....
Sibeh sianz, just a simple conversation and chat, turn until so personal, so typical.....
So relac lah all, my info might not be entirely correct, but don't think anyone else's info here is totally correct as well. We are all just reading from where ever and whatever we can find. Whether 8 owners or even /local modshops.
And since the sum the money to be spent is not small, of cos must rerearch and explore all areas before putting our hard-earned money into the 8. Not all of us Ah Sia Kias leh.....
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05-01-2006, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Emperor
So actually if an expert tuner can tune the car for higher octanes; way more power. But then again, more problems elsewhere.
Tuners generally exploit the engine potential by maxing it out through advancing the timing plus other settings. Since we are talking about higher octane here, high octane fuels burn slower than low octane therefore the engine can be tuned for more advanced timing as compared to lower octane. Power increase will result, as long as you fill the engine up with the same octane that the engine is being tuned, you will not get any problems.
05-01-2006, 01:21 AM
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Chill out people, things I'd like to point out:
1. The stock ECU is actually too well done from Mazda, its too intelligent that piggybacks wouldn't work. The same thing in the 350Z, there's all together three chips in the car and modding it isn't as easy as it sounds. Plus all new cars ECU are getting more and more difficult to mod unless you go stand-alone route which the Interceptor-X excels for the RX-8.
2. Generalizing that piston can held more boost than rotary is silly in my opinion. Try upping the boost in a high compression piston engine and you get same damage. The difference is the number of parts in the piston engine, one part fails and it still might work but in a rotary one part fails, everything stops.
3. People have to stop comparing rotary and piston engine directly, after all we get the RX-8 partly coz of the special engine.
1. The stock ECU is actually too well done from Mazda, its too intelligent that piggybacks wouldn't work. The same thing in the 350Z, there's all together three chips in the car and modding it isn't as easy as it sounds. Plus all new cars ECU are getting more and more difficult to mod unless you go stand-alone route which the Interceptor-X excels for the RX-8.
2. Generalizing that piston can held more boost than rotary is silly in my opinion. Try upping the boost in a high compression piston engine and you get same damage. The difference is the number of parts in the piston engine, one part fails and it still might work but in a rotary one part fails, everything stops.
3. People have to stop comparing rotary and piston engine directly, after all we get the RX-8 partly coz of the special engine.
05-01-2006, 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
Yah lah, all so work up for what??!!
No need to scare people won't mod lah, they will still come to your shop wan lah, and please stop it with insults of me wanting to leave my car stock, and FYI I have no personal tuner on my own end, WRONG INFO
I am Pro Jap too, but I never mentioned anything about Americans coming out with the first kits, just that sometimes Japs are good but sometimes they are at too much of a rush too.
My car still stock becos I am not even in S'pore, so how to mod?? duh.....
Sibeh sianz, just a simple conversation and chat, turn until so personal, so typical.....
So relac lah all, my info might not be entirely correct, but don't think anyone else's info here is totally correct as well. We are all just reading from where ever and whatever we can find. Whether 8 owners or even /local modshops.
And since the sum the money to be spent is not small, of cos must rerearch and explore all areas before putting our hard-earned money into the 8. Not all of us Ah Sia Kias leh.....
No need to scare people won't mod lah, they will still come to your shop wan lah
, and please stop it with insults of me wanting to leave my car stock, and FYI I have no personal tuner on my own end, WRONG INFO I am Pro Jap too, but I never mentioned anything about Americans coming out with the first kits, just that sometimes Japs are good but sometimes they are at too much of a rush too.
My car still stock becos I am not even in S'pore, so how to mod?? duh.....
Sibeh sianz, just a simple conversation and chat, turn until so personal, so typical.....
So relac lah all, my info might not be entirely correct, but don't think anyone else's info here is totally correct as well. We are all just reading from where ever and whatever we can find. Whether 8 owners or even /local modshops.
And since the sum the money to be spent is not small, of cos must rerearch and explore all areas before putting our hard-earned money into the 8. Not all of us Ah Sia Kias leh.....
theres nothing personal in my comments as well.... c'mon... if there are information to be shared, make sure its the correct one.... when ur information is being corrected, u said i'm being personal.......
anyway i have nvr mention any shop nor am i siding re amemiya. i'm stating facts only...
05-01-2006, 02:30 AM
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Aiyah, got information, just share lor, I also never say mine is totally correct.
Who knows who is right or wrong, correct?
Facts can be wrong too, whether yours, mine or others.
I too never insinuate that you mention or support any shops or brands as well dude, so take a chill pill, just a forum, not like S'pore no freedom of speech hor, say something gahmen not happy straight away clamp down...
Honestly, I never dare to say I am right, and I believe maybe you have abit more experience but not in a position to be totally accurate as well, no one is lah......
So chill chill, relac, all still in the RX8 group, all still luv the car.......
Who knows who is right or wrong, correct?
Facts can be wrong too, whether yours, mine or others.
I too never insinuate that you mention or support any shops or brands as well dude, so take a chill pill, just a forum, not like S'pore no freedom of speech hor, say something gahmen not happy straight away clamp down...
Honestly, I never dare to say I am right, and I believe maybe you have abit more experience but not in a position to be totally accurate as well, no one is lah......
So chill chill, relac, all still in the RX8 group, all still luv the car.......
05-01-2006, 02:54 AM
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Spend your money, put e FI in your 8, try it out, cool to tell e truth. But i still like FI rotary & rotary r suppose to be FI due to it low torque & engine is much simple as compare to piston. RE is 100% good but make sure u have deep pocket to let them have enough time to tune your 8 to S'pore spec & if u track, maybe some sepang spec.
No problems during or after mod., where got FUN If really NO problems on mod. WORKSHOP become CLOSESHOP.
Zav, when r u FI your car as now u have e workshop to spare
No problems during or after mod., where got FUN
If really NO problems on mod. WORKSHOP become CLOSESHOP.Zav, when r u FI your car as now u have e workshop to spare
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05-01-2006, 05:47 AM
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ok ok, lets all be friendly abit. Share info but dun argue leh... Win also no money.
Bro yiksing: You are right. Peak HP at certain rpms mean nothing. Its the curve together with power increase; good curve alone is already worth it. It depends on what you want the car to do.
Of course, high boost needs low comp pistons. Who will run high boost on high comp? But the question is, even with a lower comp, how much more boost can the rotary take? The rx7s run low comps but the boost is still somewhat limited.
And dun flame me. I love the rotary alot. But it cannot be compared to a piston engine so people also should stop expecting it to perform or behave like one. Its great in it own way and thats what its is. And is also limited as such.
Just like no one should expect a propeller aircraft to perform like a jet.
Bro yiksing: You are right. Peak HP at certain rpms mean nothing. Its the curve together with power increase; good curve alone is already worth it. It depends on what you want the car to do.
Of course, high boost needs low comp pistons. Who will run high boost on high comp? But the question is, even with a lower comp, how much more boost can the rotary take? The rx7s run low comps but the boost is still somewhat limited.
And dun flame me. I love the rotary alot. But it cannot be compared to a piston engine so people also should stop expecting it to perform or behave like one. Its great in it own way and thats what its is. And is also limited as such.
Just like no one should expect a propeller aircraft to perform like a jet.
05-01-2006, 06:05 AM
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If FEED can successfully get their RX8 intake port + RX7 Exh port engine done with shifting e ecu back to passenger cabin, & put e turbo in the engine bay like RX7, that a good new to RX8, if i remeber right , FEED boss is one of the early engineer for the renesis engine & he had commented that renesis engine is really heated with that resricted side exh port & not really suitable for turbo, now if they FI it, it might not be pure renesis engine anymore.
I just do not like where RE or greddy put the turbo as i had e experience of getting my CAI stuck in a rain flooding situation with traffic jam, what will happen when turbo inside water
but that just me only
I just do not like where RE or greddy put the turbo as i had e experience of getting my CAI stuck in a rain flooding situation with traffic jam, what will happen when turbo inside water
but that just me only
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05-01-2006, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tems900
If FEED can successfully get their RX8 intake port + RX7 Exh port engine done with shifting e ecu back to passenger cabin, & put e turbo in the engine bay like RX7, that a good new to RX8, if i remeber right , FEED boss is one of the early engineer for the renesis engine & he had commented that renesis engine is really heated with that resricted side exh port & not really suitable for turbo, now if they FI it, it might not be pure renesis engine anymore.
I just do not like where RE or greddy put the turbo as i had e experience of getting my CAI stuck in a rain flooding situation with traffic jam, what will happen when turbo inside water
I just do not like where RE or greddy put the turbo as i had e experience of getting my CAI stuck in a rain flooding situation with traffic jam, what will happen when turbo inside water
Agreed, Renisis was built to be more reliable and economical and to drop the need of turbo for power, unlike previous generations of problematic rotaries.
It too was designed in a way when placed on the chasis to give it a lower CG (Center of gravity), for better handling.
What to do now?
guess just have to wait and see further and more developments....
05-01-2006, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tems900
Spend your money, put e FI in your 8, try it out, cool to tell e truth. But i still like FI rotary & rotary r suppose to be FI due to it low torque & engine is much simple as compare to piston. RE is 100% good but make sure u have deep pocket to let them have enough time to tune your 8 to S'pore spec & if u track, maybe some sepang spec.
No problems during or after mod., where got FUN If really NO problems on mod. WORKSHOP become CLOSESHOP.
Zav, when r u FI your car as now u have e workshop to spare
No problems during or after mod., where got FUN
If really NO problems on mod. WORKSHOP become CLOSESHOP.Zav, when r u FI your car as now u have e workshop to spare
BTW workshop not own by me hor !!!
05-01-2006, 09:44 AM
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I tink ur 1st line speak volume about who being personal bro !
Guess I muz hav been the bad boy now!
Wasn't meant to insult u ! If i had my apologies !
Juz being puzzled bcoz of wat u said, as too many twists to it.
Shall withdrew wat I said then, let there be peace !
Guess I muz hav been the bad boy now!
Wasn't meant to insult u ! If i had my apologies !
Juz being puzzled bcoz of wat u said, as too many twists to it.
Shall withdrew wat I said then, let there be peace !
Originally Posted by derekwcw
Yah lah, all so work up for what??!!
No need to scare people won't mod lah, they will still come to your shop wan lah, and please stop it with insults of me wanting to leave my car stock, and FYI I have no personal tuner on my own end, WRONG INFO
I am Pro Jap too, but I never mentioned anything about Americans coming out with the first kits, just that sometimes Japs are good but sometimes they are at too much of a rush too.
My car still stock becos I am not even in S'pore, so how to mod?? duh.....
Sibeh sianz, just a simple conversation and chat, turn until so personal, so typical.....
So relac lah all, my info might not be entirely correct, but don't think anyone else's info here is totally correct as well. We are all just reading from where ever and whatever we can find. Whether 8 owners or even /local modshops.
And since the sum the money to be spent is not small, of cos must rerearch and explore all areas before putting our hard-earned money into the 8. Not all of us Ah Sia Kias leh.....
No need to scare people won't mod lah, they will still come to your shop wan lah
, and please stop it with insults of me wanting to leave my car stock, and FYI I have no personal tuner on my own end, WRONG INFO I am Pro Jap too, but I never mentioned anything about Americans coming out with the first kits, just that sometimes Japs are good but sometimes they are at too much of a rush too.
My car still stock becos I am not even in S'pore, so how to mod?? duh.....
Sibeh sianz, just a simple conversation and chat, turn until so personal, so typical.....
So relac lah all, my info might not be entirely correct, but don't think anyone else's info here is totally correct as well. We are all just reading from where ever and whatever we can find. Whether 8 owners or even /local modshops.
And since the sum the money to be spent is not small, of cos must rerearch and explore all areas before putting our hard-earned money into the 8. Not all of us Ah Sia Kias leh.....
05-01-2006, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sqflyer
20B only good for dreaming... If you can't live without autotrans in SG, how to lup a 20B?
Anyway, all this can only dream. Though some NAUGHTY person is thinking about it.
05-01-2006, 12:36 PM
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Well... just casual talk and that naughty one said considering. He will be my best friend if he did get it done. Man!!! 20B.
I suspect one has already been done in SG. Not sure who but just a guess. There will always be someone doing something so extreme. In the civic days; i have seen quite a few really crazy ones. Something like B16c with a h22 top end and a turbo. Its no longer a car; it a tire ripper.
I suspect one has already been done in SG. Not sure who but just a guess. There will always be someone doing something so extreme. In the civic days; i have seen quite a few really crazy ones. Something like B16c with a h22 top end and a turbo. Its no longer a car; it a tire ripper.
05-01-2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by derekwcw
Aiyah, got information, just share lor, I also never say mine is totally correct.
Who knows who is right or wrong, correct?
Facts can be wrong too, whether yours, mine or others.
I too never insinuate that you mention or support any shops or brands as well dude, so take a chill pill, just a forum, not like S'pore no freedom of speech hor, say something gahmen not happy straight away clamp down...
Honestly, I never dare to say I am right, and I believe maybe you have abit more experience but not in a position to be totally accurate as well, no one is lah......
So chill chill, relac, all still in the RX8 group, all still luv the car.......
Who knows who is right or wrong, correct?
Facts can be wrong too, whether yours, mine or others.
I too never insinuate that you mention or support any shops or brands as well dude, so take a chill pill, just a forum, not like S'pore no freedom of speech hor, say something gahmen not happy straight away clamp down...
Honestly, I never dare to say I am right, and I believe maybe you have abit more experience but not in a position to be totally accurate as well, no one is lah......
So chill chill, relac, all still in the RX8 group, all still luv the car.......
i'm quite perturbed with ur comment abt pple coming to wkshop to do mods.... ("No need to scare people won't mod lah, they will still come to your shop wan lah".) Do note that from start til now, i have nvr advertise anything or any place over here. and i always comment on my capacity as coupe07 and not behalf of wkshop.
i always advocate freedom of speech in forums and take forum comments like a pinch of salt..... maybe u took it too personal when i pick out ur quote and replied u point by point. Sorry if u took offence.
05-02-2006, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by yiksing
Chill out people, things I'd like to point out:
1. The stock ECU is actually too well done from Mazda, its too intelligent that piggybacks wouldn't work. The same thing in the 350Z, there's all together three chips in the car and modding it isn't as easy as it sounds. Plus all new cars ECU are getting more and more difficult to mod unless you go stand-alone route which the Interceptor-X excels for the RX-8.
2. Generalizing that piston can held more boost than rotary is silly in my opinion. Try upping the boost in a high compression piston engine and you get same damage. The difference is the number of parts in the piston engine, one part fails and it still might work but in a rotary one part fails, everything stops.
3. People have to stop comparing rotary and piston engine directly, after all we get the RX-8 partly coz of the special engine.
1. The stock ECU is actually too well done from Mazda, its too intelligent that piggybacks wouldn't work. The same thing in the 350Z, there's all together three chips in the car and modding it isn't as easy as it sounds. Plus all new cars ECU are getting more and more difficult to mod unless you go stand-alone route which the Interceptor-X excels for the RX-8.
2. Generalizing that piston can held more boost than rotary is silly in my opinion. Try upping the boost in a high compression piston engine and you get same damage. The difference is the number of parts in the piston engine, one part fails and it still might work but in a rotary one part fails, everything stops.
3. People have to stop comparing rotary and piston engine directly, after all we get the RX-8 partly coz of the special engine.
this is picture i taken for my 8 ecu before i send it for mod, nothing to do & no idea what they going to do so take picture
05-04-2006, 07:49 AM
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juz finished reading the hyper rev RX8 vol 2...it seems knightsports have completed their
supercharger...it comes wif open pod filter, something that look like an intercooler to
me, the knightsports 4 beat ecu n pipings...they show a dyno graph wif power peaking
at 292.6ps...anyone wif more info on that? how much improvement in torque does it gives? the kit seems quite cool but looks very expensive...i think its more expensive than the blitz supercharger kit?
supercharger...it comes wif open pod filter, something that look like an intercooler to
me, the knightsports 4 beat ecu n pipings...they show a dyno graph wif power peaking
at 292.6ps...anyone wif more info on that? how much improvement in torque does it gives? the kit seems quite cool but looks very expensive...i think its more expensive than the blitz supercharger kit?
05-04-2006, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CoupeM
i think it cost about the same as the blitz
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